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Bam you won. Lol.

There is no reasoning with those that are closed minded.

http://sfbayview.com/2011/02/what-happened-to-black-wall-street-on-june-1-1921/

https://www.aclu.org/feature/war-marijuana-black-and-white

People whining and moaning it wont fix things.

Pointing to cherypicked facts that even if they were true would not help to solve problems.

Racists are about blaming not about fixing anything.

All the greediness, inhumanity lack of human values has created a broken system.

It continues to be broken because of white and black and whatever color racists.

And instead of solutions racists want the system more broken, but in racists favor, because you know, life owes racists,poor racists, pathetic.

I have seen walls of these "facts"

Blacks are >15% of the population, but responsible for more than <85% of the crime. How do you reconcile that?

Pointing at isolated numbers in complex historical events is cherrypicking.

Anybody regardless of race or gender deserves a chance, denying it because of race or gender is a losers game.

Now is the moment to repeat to yourself that you know the "true" facts. If you are still having trouble reconciling you can use name calling by using select insult words and adding "tard" that will make feel empowered in truth.

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Facts from the FBI and Department of Justice on blacks in America:

Blacks commit 56% of all robberies, 53% of all murders, and 1 in 3 rapes, all while making up less than 13% of the US population. Source: FBI Crime Statistics, table 43
As of 2008, young black men kill 7 times more often than young white men. Source: Homicide Trends in the United States, 1980-2008 Annual Rates for 2009 and 2010, page 11
42% of all cop killers are black. Source: Law Enforcement Officers Feloniously Killed, Race and Sex of Known Offender, 2004–2013
93% of black homicide victims are killed by other blacks. Source: Black Victims of Violent Crime, page 3
14,000 interracial rapes take place a year, and 99.9% are black men raping white women. Source: Criminal Victimization in the United States, 2007 Statistical Tables
In 2013, blacks made up nearly 38% of the total prison population, despite being only 13% of the general population. Source: Jail Inmates, Midyear 2013, Statistical Tables
Blacks are more likely to have a gene that causes violence. Source: The 2-repeat allele of the MAOA gene confers an increased risk for shooting and stabbing behaviors
The poorest whites are less likely to go to prison than rich blacks. Source: Race, Wealth and Incarceration: Results from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth
There is no racial discrimination in the justice system. Blacks just commit more crime because of their low intelligence and high propensity for violence. Source: No evidence of racial discrimination in criminal justice processing: Results from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health

Facts on the family dynamics and education achievement of blacks in America:

73% of black babies are born out of wedlock. Source: National Vital Statistics Reports Births, 2010
In 2012, the mean SAT critical reading score for college accepted students was 428 for blacks and 527 for whites. For mathematics, it was 428 for blacks and 536 for whites. For writing, it was 417 for blacks and 515 for whites. Source: National Center for Education Statistics
The racial gap on the SAT is so large that the poorest white children, from families that earn less than $20,000 a year, do better than the wealthiest blacks, from families that earn 200,000 a year or more. Source: Journal of Blacks in Higher Education
67% of black children grow up without a father, compared to 25% for whites and only 17% for Asians. Source: US Census surveys and National Kid Count
At both the fourth grade and eighth grade level, there is an achievement gap between whites and blacks in both mathematics test scores and reading test scores in every state. Source: How Black and White Students in Public Schools Perform on the National Assessment of Educational Progress
Gonorrhea rates are 30 times higher in blacks than in whites. 48 percent of black women are infected with genital herpes. Source: CDC

Facts on the intelligence levels of blacks in America and around the world:

Blacks have an average IQ of just 85, while white people have an average IQ of 100. Africans have an even lower average IQ score of 70-75. Higher IQ is a factor in causing people to not commit crime, to live longer and healthier lives, to earn more money, to perform better at every type of job, and to make better decisions. Source: Intelligence Predicts Health and Longevity, but Why?
In a 2013 survey of top IQ researchers, 83% said that Africans were the least intelligent race in the world because of their genes. Source: Survey of Expert Opinion on Intelligence: Causes of International Differences in Cognitive Ability Tests

For people who claim that blacks' poor IQ scores are caused by poverty:

In 1976, Harvard psychologists looked at how black children adopted by upper-middle class white American families performed on IQ tests. Black children adopted by white parents averaged 89 on IQ tests at age 17 (slightly better than the 85 average for blacks nationally). Since the black children grew up in white families with good socioeconomic conditions, only genetics can account for their low IQ scores. Regardless of wealth or environment, the racial IQ gap remains. Source: The Science of Mental Ability, pages 483-489

What if IQ tests are biased against blacks?

There are IQ tests like the Raven's Progressive Matrices which don't have any language or words and rely entirely on visual pattern recognition. Even then there is a marked difference between black and white IQ scores, not only in America but internationally as well. In fact, the Black-White IQ gap has been observed in South Africa, the Netherlands, Canada, and many other nations around the world. Source: Jensen Effects among African, Indian, and White engineering students in South Africa on Raven’s Standard Progressive Matrices

For people who say that race differences in IQ are just "white supremacy":

IQ tests made by white people reliably show that East Asian countries have the highest IQ scores. African countries have on average the lowest. European countries are between the Asian and African countries, but are uniformly much closer to East Asia than to Africa. Source: Race and IQ: A Theory-Based Review of the Research in Richard Nisbett’s Intelligence and How to Get It

IQ differences become more important at higher IQ levels:

Overall, 18% of Asians have an IQ over 120, 10% of whites do and only 1% of blacks. Nearly 84% of blacks have an IQ below 100, which is slightly below the average IQ for whites. The ratio of white Americans to black Americans who have an IQ over 125 is 30:1. Source: Thirty Years of Research on Race Differences in Cognitive Ability

Blacks' low IQ scores is linked to their criminality:

The average American criminal has an IQ 85, which is the exact same IQ score as the average black. Source: 21^st Century Criminology: A Reference Handbook

What academics have to say about black intelligence in their own words:

From the peer-reviewed paper The Totality of Available Evidence Shows the Race IQ Gap Still Remains:

The average IQ for African Americans was lower than those for Latino, White, Asian, and Jewish Americans (85, 89, 103, 106, and 113, respectively.

Our review of the literature shows that Black-White IQ differences in the United States have remained at 15 to 18 points, or 1.1 standard deviations, for nearly a century.

From the peer-reviewed paper Thirty Years of Research on Race Differences in Cognitive Ability:

The IQ gap between blacks and whites in the United States—15-17 points—has not changed since it was first measured nearly a century ago. Both races’ test scores rose during the century, but the gap remained as large at the end of the century as at the beginning despite considerable social change.

For those looking to pin the lower IQ scores of blacks on poverty, IQ is largely genetic. From the peer-reviewed paper Genetics and intelligence differences: five special findings:

Some evidence suggests that heritability might increase to as much as 80% in later adulthood but then decline to about 60% after age 80.

Why does IQ matter? From the article Social Consequences of Group Differences in Cognitive Ability:

Thousands of studies have looked at the impact of mental abilities on school and job performance, and large national longitudinal studies in both Europe and the United States have shown that IQ is related to various forms of socioeconomic success and failure.

Violent crime rate in the US with Hispanics separated from whites.

greensploge1 · 2017-02-26T08:49:52+00:00

I liked the whole theme of this sub earlier.. now it's just another mad alt-right /racist subreddit? Welp guess it's time to...

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I have seen walls of these "facts" Blacks are >15% of the population, but responsible for more than <85% of the crime. How do you reconcile that?

Wow we got a new wall of crap!!

Feel better now?

Did you help make things better? No!

But you now feel pleased with yourself, because you found someone to blame for your misfortunes.

Racists do not make things better, they make them worse. But that righteousness pulsing through your veins is heady stuff.

The Russians killed Polish intellectuals and leaders to be able to control them easier. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre

This was inflicted on American slaves not once, but year after year.

There is no reasoning with those that are closed minded.

http://sfbayview.com/2011/02/what-happened-to-black-wall-street-on-june-1-1921/

https://www.aclu.org/feature/war-marijuana-black-and-white

People whining and moaning it wont fix things.

Pointing to cherypicked facts that even if they were true would not help to solve problems.

Racists are about blaming not about fixing anything.

All the greediness, inhumanity lack of human values has created a broken system.

It continues to be broken because of white and black and whatever color racists.

And instead of solutions racists want the system more broken, but in racists favor, because you know, life owes racists, poor racists, pathetic.

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Don't do illegal drugs, don't get arrested. Pretty simple. Plus how does enforcing drug laws cause Blacks to commit more murder exactly?

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Fuck you and your passive aggressive shit. At least I'm honest about my discontent, and not trying to be a politically correct fuck stick about it. There is nothing to debate here with you. You and yours have a belief system in your racial superiority. Beliefs are not founded in debatable facts, so there is no point.

I have seen the depravity from all of the human spectrum. Whites, blacks, women, men, religious, and the non religious. I've spent over 6 months inbedded with the Afghan National ARMY, there were amazing men that I made friends with there, I also met fuck hole child molesters there. I have served under black men that motivated me to be a greater human, I have had my dick ran into the dirt by women that could pull 300 male PFT's.

All those experiences have culminated into realizing what you never will, every human is different and you have to take them all as a case by case basis.

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highly important

Citation needed*

the fate of your people

Do you have any idea how crazy you sound? People I've engaged with who are of the alt-right mindset always talk about how SJW's and liberals are the end of the goddamn world. Here's a newsflash, as society becomes increasingly more automated, and less about survival on a day to day basis, personal expression and identity are going, and have already started, to become focal points of political ideologies. It is the natural progression and delineation of future societies.

Or you could stick around and attempt to persuade us out of our paranoia?

I have absolutely no desire to debate with you, or really anybody on the internet. It's the single most insane thing you could do, trying to change somebody's opinion who is so entrenched in their own beliefs. It's maddening really. I found that out the hard way when I tried to convince /pol/tards that climate change is real. It doesn't matter what I say, they will use any excuse to deny the evidence in front of their eyes.

Anyways, have fun with the eugenics, faggot!

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I wouldn't call myself crazy, only passionate. I know a lot of the calling card for alt-righter's is the "Muh SJW's and the Muh liberals ruin everything", and indeed when any one group of people talk about something for so long it does become cumbersome to listen to. I get that.

But here is another newsflash: the world isn't a pretty ball of sunshine where the people at the top have the best interests for all humanity in mind. Much of the thought that stems from SJW's and liberals is damaging. Yes, it is socially expressive and everyone deserves a chance at having their opinions heard, but the reality of the situation is that this world is harsh.

We are not all created equal, no matter how many times you feed yourself that lie. There is a natural order to things, and when you have a large demographic that actively supports policies that are counter-intuitive to a productive, homogeneous society then you have a recipe for disaster.

I'm not saying its all useless, but seriously how can you support feminism? It is literally a cancer that is disrupting the Family Unit. It is preaching to young women that they can abandon their genetic roles as Nurturing Mothers in favor of a poshed up life lived in decadence. Do you know the definition of decadence? Feminism teaches women that Men are bad and need to be controlled. Feminism attempts in one generation to completely wipes out tens of thousands of years of genetic memory.

There is a traditional Family Unit for a reason. It is healthy and conducive to a strong society.

I don't want to make this comment a wall of text, so I'll stop ranting. I know you have absolutely no desire to bate with me, but honestly my opinions are not as entrenched as you think they are.

Perhaps it is your opinions that are deeply entrenched...

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Perhaps it is your opinions that are deeply entrenched...

I'm not afraid to be wrong, I've done it for many, many, years. I used to watch MSNBC and think it was unbiased, I used to think Republicans are evil. Now I just want people to present legitimate arguments devoid of their own biases. And I've never met an "alt-right" person who could do that.

Much of the thought that stems from SJW's and liberals is damaging

I completely agree. That's why I enjoy subreddits like /r/TumblrInAction and, more recently PPD. The dichotomy and rhetoric from contemporary third wave feminism is poison and madness.

counter-intuitive to a productive, homogeneous society then you have a recipe for disaster.

I hear this alot. People quote J.D Unwin's "Sex and Culture" (fantastic read by the way) as if it's a traveler's guide for national collapse. And for the most part, Unwin is right. Sex and expression played roles in collapses like the Roman's. However there is a long, long list of things that also went wrong. I reject the assertion that their collapse was entirely based upon this idea, and that we should draw parallels between us and them.

There is a traditional Family Unit for a reason. It is healthy and conducive to a strong society.

Again I reject this assertion. I do not believe you could prove, conclusively at least, that traditional family units are the only things that drive societies, especially in modern societies. We live in a completely different world to the Romans and the Greeks. "Traditional family units" hold absolutely no bearing when we can artificially fertilize eggs with no birth defects or ramifications.

I find alt-right ideology just as toxic as third wave feminism. Because of how desperately they want to hold on to "traditional values" (of course I have no idea where you stand on that, just lambasting them in general). Cultural stagnation is just as cancerous as the poison feminists produce.

I don't want to make this comment a wall of text, so I'll stop ranting. I know you have absolutely no desire to bate with me, but honestly my opinions are not as entrenched as you think they are.

I respect you for responding honestly. I'm pleasantly surprised to say the least.

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There we go : dialectic!

There are a lot of younger people in both movements, which is where much of the violence stems from. The elders are reserved to the actual discourse. I've noticed a growing divide between people, but it is not something new. It has been here since the start. The only thing new here is us.

Your views align very much with mine, and the only divide I've seen so far is that of the role of family members.

J.D Unwin's "Sex and Culture"

I've never read this, thank you for recommending it. I'll have to add this to my list of will-read's. I don't quote from it, and I don't know how much of my knowledge is in line with it.

My view's of traditional lifestyles are actually open to a lot of change, but there is one truth that I adhere to : sex realism. I don't want to get into the topic of gender here, I only wish to stick to biology for now. Biologically speaking Males and Females are different. This is obvious, but overlooked. You agree with me that feminism and the ideas of a "patriarchy" out to dominate are frivolous at best and nonexistent at worst. So look into that idea. Why is it frivolous? Because women have roles. Men have roles. There is a biological function, and a biological need to fulfill that function. If you don't fulfill it, you create a complex inside the psychology of that system. A void.

Men are historically known to be the warriors. Women have historically been known to be the nurturers. Is this such a wrong assumption? If it is, we can stop the conversation here. If not, we can delve a bit deeper.

Why are men the warriors? Why are women the nurturers? Because of Biological Imperative. It is designed. So what happens when we have sex? What happens when the Man and the Woman come together? There is a power struggle. There is a display. We have our roles to play.

The Father figure is supposed to be a strong, dominant, caring male. The Mother figure is supposed to be a strong, supportive, nurturing female. The children are supposed to be obedient and educated. There is a hierarchy and it exists for a reason.

Traditionally speaking, what do you think of when you think of a family? Well, for most people of European descent, the Family Unit is comprised of a strong Father Figure, a nurturing Mother Figure, and the obedient Children. This idea of the traditional family has been under blatant attack for several decades now, at least in the West.

Most "reforms" and policies being pushed are part of an agenda to break down the stability of the modern family. (((They))) want a disconnected group of people who are easily manipulated and don't really carry ties to one another.

The Father stays away at work all day, and when he comes home he is too tired to be Daddy. The Mother has been "emboldened" by feminist ideals and therefore takes up a career, leaving nobody to tend to the nurturing. The Children are thus left to be tended by the State and the Mainstream Media.

I know a lot of Western thought has been about progression, revolution. But to what extent? At what point do we continue to break down societal norms and replace them with something new? Are the old ways really that bad? They've preserved our species thus far, and I love a little bit of innovation here and there but to redesign the whole system in one generation? Seriously?

I'm beginning to rant again, and I just wanted to get back to your response, which was well spoken and deserving of an upvoat. I'm happy to have been able to speak with you. I hope we can keep this going.

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It doesn't even make sense anymore. It's not that hard to make a new subreddit. They could just create /r/rightofway (see look I even offered a good name for it) and put all the xenophobic shit there. Instead someone figured that all the current subscribers shared a certain ideal and the name didnt matter.

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xenophobic

Oy gevalt!

What happened here?

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Facts from the FBI and Department of Justice on blacks in America:

Facts on the family dynamics and education achievement of blacks in America:

Facts on the intelligence levels of blacks in America and around the world:

What academics have to say about black intelligence in their own words:

Violent crime rate in the US with Hispanics separated from whites.

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