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Police: University of Alabama student lied about sexual assault.

gabin121

November 20, 2016
105 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/news/20161118/police-university-of-alabama-student-lied-about-sexual-assault
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Title Police: University of Alabama student lied about sexual assault.
Author

gabin121

Upvotes 105
Comments 24
Date November 20, 2016 5:31 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/5dz1ze/police_university_of_alabama_student_lied_about/
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Comments

[–]IronJohnMRA 23 points24 points25 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

“We hope that this does not deter true victims of crimes from coming to us,” he said.

There is absolutely no reason it should.

[–]xNOM 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Investigators working the case this week determined that Mannion was lying, Tuscaloosa County Metro Homicide Unit commander Capt. Gary Hood said Friday.

“We hope that this does not deter true victims of crimes from coming to us,” he said. “We hope it does deter those who are making a game by falsely reporting these kinds of assaults.”

Apparently "this" refers to determining that she lied. He's apologizing for figuring out that she lied? What is the supposed deterrent here. Putting your photo in the paper on the off chance that you're such a poor liar that people can prove it?

[–]ThirdTurnip 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This = prosecuting her and the ensuing publicity.

[–]Tmomp 17 points18 points19 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

“This is a severe crime, and we treat it as such. People need to know if they’ll suffer the consequences for making a false report.”

and she was

charged with false reporting to law enforcement authorities, a misdemeanor

I'd say she was responding to a system that rewards this behavior, seeing as how nobody seemed to care about the innocent men she could have victimized.

Too bad she didn't jaywalk too since it would have resulted in more punishment.

[–]MelkorHimself 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Too bad she didn't jaywalk too since it would have resulted in more punishment.

If it's any consolation, the article further indicates the police department will be seeking restitution from the investigation which includes wages and overtime. I don't know how much they can bleed from a poor college student, but we'll see.

[–]ThirdTurnip 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Too bad she didn't jaywalk too since it would have resulted in more punishment.

Poetic but probably not the case.

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[–]ThirdTurnip 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That gives no indication of cost.

I've looked and seen other states list fines as between $50 and $100. I can't find concrete info for Alabama but there's no reason to believe jaywalking has a bigger penalty than falsely reporting a crime.

I don't know where they got their info but this table claims that penalty in Alabama is up to 1 year in jail, $2000 or 1 year of hard labor. I doubt jaywalking fines beat that.

http://www.missingkids.com/en_US/archive/documents/FalseReporting.pdf

http://law.justia.com/codes/alabama/2006/13297/13a-10-9.html

http://law.justia.com/codes/alabama/2015/title-32/chapter-5a/article-10/section-32-5a-212/

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[–]ThirdTurnip 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There you go, at least in the university, most cases are unfounded, or false!

That's not what they said.

Unfounded, false, or lacking sufficient evidence to prosecute. We can't and shouldn't assume that all of the lacking sufficient evidence to prosecute cases were false. I'm sure some rapists are clever or lucky and get away with it.

It's good that they're prosecuting these malicious complainants though and that's getting publicity.

[–]Molestory 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I have thought of a way to test the percentage of rape claims that are lies.

Find the conviction to complaint ratio for white females and the ratio for black females seperately, for the last few years.

Also the raw numbers of claims and convictions for each.

I would suspect, without seeing the data, that more rape claims by black females are proven in court than claims by white females, because their is greater reward for white females that claim rape than black females. A black woman being raped rarely makes the news but even an unsourced claim of rape by a white woman has people in a frenzy.

Therefore if more rapes of black women than white women get actual convictions from a court that would prove that most rape claims are fabrications.

This has a great advantage that cases dismissed or unproven have no effect on the visible bias.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hood said that the homicide unit will seek restitution for the expenses related to the investigation, including wages and overtime

Homicide unit??

[–]unbelievablepeople 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In a lot of police departments, the homicide unit are the most experienced investigators, so when they want to make an investigation a high priority, they put the homicide unit on it, even if it's not actually a homicide. It shows how seriously police take rape cases -- contrary to the media narrative that women aren't believed, in this case, not only did they believe a woman who was lying, but they were putting serious resources into finding the nonexistent rapists.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

she "felt raped" emotionally

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You mean women lie about these things? Thankfully we don't allow people to be convicted solely on the word of these women /s.

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[–]terrible_badness 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I genuinely believe there should be a law the punishment for false rape accusations by a female, should be actual rape of the female by the accused party. That will make them think twice about lying.

Wow. You are really fucking disgusting if you think that is an appropriate punishment for anyone.

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[–]terrible_badness 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You're more likely to be raped by another man as a man than to be falsely accused of it.

[–]Angryman411 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What is your point? I never said make rape against women legal. Just that any women that falsely accuses a man of raping her, should be raped by that man herself as punishment.

[–]terrible_badness 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah which is fucked up and not how the justice system works. Looking at your post history explains a lot, though.

[–]Angryman411 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It is an eye for an eye, a tit for tat, true justice, our idiotic system is incapable of giving.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

impossible that cannot happen REEEEEEEEEEE

[–]manifesto18 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

These are becoming so common I'm not even a little surprised anymore

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