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Merriam-Webster | Words at Play | 8 Words for Men of Ill-Repute

paradigmarson

November 17, 2016
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/r/MensRights
http://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/words-for-men-of-ill-repute
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Title Merriam-Webster | Words at Play | 8 Words for Men of Ill-Repute
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paradigmarson

Upvotes 6
Comments 5
Date November 17, 2016 10:26 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/5diskc/merriamwebster_words_at_play_8_words_for_men_of/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/merriam-webster-words-at-play-8-words-for-men-of.937324
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Comments

[–]Sasha_ 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

"MRA" not there? Shame.

:-)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Rakehell/rake, Franion ("an habitual pleasure seeker or merrymaker" - Hees a franke franion, a merrie companion, and loues a wench well, they say he has married a poore widdow because shees faire.), Lounge lizard, Beau-nasty (“A slovenly fop” - Though the barbers’ apprentices had not adopted the same practice at that time, Lake could not help thinking that his cousin looked more like a beau-nasty than like a gentleman.), Cad, Libertine, Blackguard, Lothario.

There isn't much ill-repute in these words any more.

Under the prevailing Hefnerian morality, it's a life well lived to be a rake, a franion (I only heard of that word five minutes ago, and I'm already putting it into a sentence), a lounge lizard, a libertine, or a Lothario.

Concepts like cad and blackguard (and I'd add heel to that list) are missing from our mental toolkit. For example, a lot of the unpleasant sexual experiences that college aged women have is because of caddishness - the young men behave dishonorably, and the young women feel used and hurt.. With no category available for identifying cads and heels as such, they're either armchair-psychologized as narcissists or sociopaths, or they're criminalized as abusers or rapists.

[–]paradigmarson[S] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Your comment succeeds as education-signalling, but fails to refute my central tenor in posting to /r/mensrights: the article is propagandistic in intent and effect.

The article's message is mostly normative: it is suggesting that these are bad things to be, accompanying the terms with pervasively negative images, descriptions and quotes. It encourages people to interpret the words as pejoratives. This is a propagandistic manipulation of popular word usage for the purpose of promoting misandry.

The article praises 'rakehell', not 'rake'. Regardless the extent to which reactors accept the playboy morality you allude to, the article is changing attitudes in the opposite direction, vituperating male permissiveness.

With no category available for identifying cads and heels as such

It makes me sad that as feminism develops new linguistic weapons, our superpower is to passively approve of alternative ways to vilify and hurt men but not as much. It also makes me sad that the propagandist chose Merriam-Webster as her medium.

[–]iainmf 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think I am going to have to use the term 'caddish feminism'.

[–]inspiron3000 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The mental image of Terry-Thomas promoting women's rights does not compute.
I think we need a meme.

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