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UK: MPs call for soliciting to be decriminalised as report reveals prostitutes earn £2,000 a week

furchfur

July 1, 2016
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/r/MensRights
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/01/mps-call-for-soliciting-to-be-decriminalised-as-report-reveals-p/
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Title UK: MPs call for soliciting to be decriminalised as report reveals prostitutes earn £2,000 a week
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furchfur

Upvotes 12
Comments 14
Date July 1, 2016 9:01 AM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4qqt4n/uk_mps_call_for_soliciting_to_be_decriminalised/
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Comments

[–]lostapwbm 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

It is amazing that so many allegedly smart people, such as those who work in government, can't or refuse to realize that most of the problems they associate with prostitution, such as pimping, drugs, violence, etc., are the result of criminalisation, not prostitution itself.

The effort to criminalize and destroy prostitution and pornography has had more to do with controlling men than with helping women.

[–]MRA-automatron-2kb 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree.

[–]geniice -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

It is amazing that so many allegedly smart people, such as those who work in government, can't or refuse to realize that most of the problems they associate with prostitution, such as pimping, drugs, violence, etc., are the result of criminalisation, not prostitution itself.

Prostitution isn't illegal in the UK and yet we still have drugs and violence (and pimping to a more limited degree).

The effort to criminalize and destroy prostitution and pornography has had more to do with controlling men than with helping women.

More to do with keeping the place tidy. Goverments find that steetwalkers lower the tone of whatever area they happen to be in. Goverments prefer that their telephone boxes don't look like this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Phone_box_prostitute_calling_cards_1.jpg

But at the end of the day as long as everyone is old enough paying someone for sex is quite legal in the UK.

[–]Arby01 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Prostitution isn't illegal in the UK

If that's the case then what's this about:

From the article:

MPs also called for all convictions for soliciting to be wiped from the slate, in order to make it easier for sex workers to leave prostitution and find other forms of work.

[–]geniice -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Soliciting is illegal. Prostitution isn't.

Basically they outlawed most of the things around prostitution (soliciting, running a brothel, pimping etc) but prostitution itself remains legal.

[–]Arby01 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

so, you can't 'streetwalk, run a brothel, advertise, ..."

What part of prostitution is legal then? The get married and strip him in divorce part?

That's tongue in cheek, but if you make it illegal to get customers, even if the thing you're selling is legal, then the thing you are selling is effectively illegal.

[–]furchfur[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The UK treats it as a grey area. No one really wants it completely legalised because then taxes would be collected on iit and a lot of people would not feel comfortable funding the country with tax collected on prostitution. Also it would probably have to be offered as a viable career option. So we sort of do not promote it . What I do not see at all in the UK is Street prostitution.

[–]Arby01 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, that's pretty much been the treatment in most Western countries, as far as I understand it. (prior to the, make it legal and then arrest the buyers, which is pretty much the same thing with "women shouldn't be punished for their choices' built in).

Essentially though, that means it's effectively illegal. We just assume that the people involved are so poverty stricken and desperate that we try not to make it too much worse.

Also it would probably have to be offered as a viable career option. So we sort of do not promote it .

That's a point that would have never occurred to me. If it was made legal and taxable, would it be presentable on 'career day' in high school? Since 'porn actress' isn't presented, and it is legal and taxable, I would assume it would fall into the same category.

(Unless I am wrong and porn actress is presented. I am making an assumption there. ).

[–]lostapwbm 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm sorry, I was on an America rant there. I know our English cousins are a little more sane when it comes to the buying and selling of sexual services.

I remember being shocked (back when things still shocked me) at seeing prostitution flyers in phone boxes when I was in London. English roses indeed.

[–]Ultramegasaurus 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Prostitution can be a privilege as well.

[–]Lethn 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

LOL! Ahhhh how typical of the government, to want something they were so against legalised so they can tax it :D

[–]furchfur[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I do not think they have ever been against it. I think the issue is the prostitutes absolutely should not be prosecuted if the buyers are not.

[–]TheRavenousRabbit 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In Sweden, it's only illegal to buy sex. It's completely legal to sell sex.

[–]Paul-milana 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

150 hookers murdered since 1990 doesn't seem that high at all. Seems the government is trying to make safe an industry that is.already safe enough. We need to stop spending so much time and money on issues that affect few people and invest more education to tach women other to sell their bodies from the start.

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