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Congress Acts to Mark Passports of Sex Offenders

BlackMRA-edtastic

February 2, 2016
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/r/MensRights
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2016/02/02/congress-acts-to-mark-passports-of-sex-offenders?ref=hp-1-121#.qyMzypKHc
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Title Congress Acts to Mark Passports of Sex Offenders
Author

BlackMRA-edtastic

Upvotes 20
Comments 12
Date February 2, 2016 3:59 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/43ut6d/congress_acts_to_mark_passports_of_sex_offenders/
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[–]ChaosOpen 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I would be perfectly fine with this if it wasn't so easy for a man to be put on the sex offenders list simply by being accused of a crime. Even if acquitted with a large amount of evidence supporting his innocence, he could still find himself on the list.

[+][deleted] 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]ChaosOpen 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because as soon as people see sex offender they think "child rapist" even though they will put you on there for much tamer crimes and crimes you didn't commit.

[–]rg57 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No other offences are mentioned. Why just sex offenders?

If these people are such a threat (they aren't) then they should be in prison, or at the very least not have a passport.

This scarlet letter treatment is an admission that these people are just like everyone else, but they pissed off the wrong people (feminists and tradcons).

Otherwise, the passports of frauds should surely be the first to be marked, as they are most likely to be the class of ex-cons to have the skills to harm another country's residents. And since homicide is far more serious than any sex offence, surely people who have committed homicide should have theirs marked next in line.

In fact, why not just list every state and federal conviction on the passport?

Or is aggravated assault not hot-button enough to care about?

[–]finiksrising 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

These sorts of laws make it easier to do just what you are proposing. It's just a matter of time before all crimes will be subject to this sort of public branding. People won't care until it starts hitting closer to home, but then will it be too late to stop it?

[–]SporkTornado 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Aren't felons already barred from international travel anyway? Which countries allow foreign felons into their territories? This bill sounds redundant.

[–]bethblackapple 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Hey, I'm the reporter who wrote this story. No, felons are not barred from international travel, at least not as a result of any US policy or program. With more than 7.7 million former felons in this country (about 3.5% of the adult population), the State Department would have a hell of a lot of screening to do if that were the case.

[–]SporkTornado 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not the U.S that prevents felons from leaving, it's foreign countries that prevent felons from entering.

[–]WeAreGlidingNow 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ha! Blackapple. I get it. Good article. I am pleased that you included the "who's next?" quote. Congress is slowly increasing the number of reasons passports can be revoked (most recently back taxes). And this is part of that "scope creep". So I was thinking the same thing. Why not add drunk drivers to the list? Or anyone convicted of battery?

And the e-mail at the end was really a joke. Seriously? For the Philippines -- the Philippines for Fuck's Sake -- to kick someone out for sexual reasons is a total joke. Ask anyone who served in the Navy 20 years ago: whole industries were built around foreigners coming there to do nasty things.

[–]finiksrising 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Scary precedent the USA is making here. Americans are blind to anything that doesn't directly impact them. Allowing this sort of segregation should disturb every single American Citizen. If the President means what he says about criminal justice and prison reform he will veto this bill.

[–]rg57 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's telling that the US government is more interested in keeping people IN, than they are in keeping potential threats OUT.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm from Europe and have been following what is going on in US with this sex offender hysteria for some time. I have no much sympathy for those who molest real children or rape but it seem that this label is handed out like candy for sexting or having sex on a public beach or what ever. In my country the age of consent is 16 but it's unlikely to get even prison time unless the younger party is like 14 or younger. Now I don't condone older guys taking advantage of teens or anything but it seem in US things are out of proportion. If you speed a little you get caution, speed little more and you get fined, mount a rocket on your car and ram it through group of pedestrians and you'll go to prison. There seems to be some proportionality there like there should be.

Now, when it comes to sex in US, "speed a little" (with, say 17,99 year old) means that the law will fck you in the ass for the rest of your life unless you apply for a asylum in some foreign country that is not so hysterical about sex. Some MILF from Florida actually was granted an asylum in Canada because she was convicted to 30 years in prison for having sex with a 16-year old dude.

Even when it comes to rapist and those who have molested real kids certain principals of justice should apply. When the time in prison is done the debt to the society is paid in full. Period. There's no need to publicly shame anyone unless the person has some serious personality disorder which makes him danger to the society, in which case the right place for him/her would actually be in mental hospital. In criminology it is very well known that inability to integrate back in the society will lead to more offending.

Everything US is doing with its' crime problem contradicts with scientific research. US is the Saudi Arabia of the western countries.

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