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Feminists are right. We do live in a "Rape" culture.

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November 4, 2015

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Title	Feminists are right. We do live in a "Rape" culture.
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	2
Comments	24
Date	November 4, 2015 1:11 AM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3rfjxr/feminists_are_right_we_do_live_in_a_rape_culture/
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[–]ghebert001 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

How am I having a childish argument? I asked you a question and you and your friend, who had nothing to say until I added my opinion, attacked me.

Rape culture as you narrowly defined it would not include men, as it is defined as a woman's depiction as a sexual object by men. However, it is a fact that this does affect male rape victims as seen here http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cathy-reisenwitz/male-victims-reveal-rape-cultures-most-insidious-harm_b_5042892.html

What you are referring to, rape in prison institutions, is not the same as rape culture seen in everyday occurrences in the outside world. Even still, the victimized men are called by female pronouns or insults as evidenced here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_rape_in_the_United_States which shows that emasculation of male victims and feminization plays a huge part in prison rape culture as well. That being, you are not called or considered a man being victimized--but you are being degraded to a woman, which is worth discussion.

There has been discussion about eliminating rape in prisons http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=20 but seeing as this is a lawless world, and the prisons are filled with lawless people, the solution is more nuanced than your "discussion," if you'd like to call it that, allows it to be.

I still haven't read any solutions or prevention methods you would like to share. Since this is a thread on men's rights and all, I thought this would be a great time to open dialog about how y'know... the Rights of Men are being violated here. If after all is a serious matter. I'm just wondering why female victims are being brought up in tandem, instead of your issue of concern being seriously discussed.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

It's a start. And before you continue on believing that feminists do not care about these issues, I'd like to stop you there and say you're wrong. More often than not, male issues are ignored largely due to "social constructs" that society has imposed in them as well. That being said, I tend to believe that "feminism" is widely misunderstood and maybe the name is also archaic in nature. As well as terms such as "patriarchy." However, the abstraction the aforementioned P-word described is what makes coming forward as a male victim or rape "gay" or "soft" for allowing it to happen. It's why many male victims suffer in silence, in fear of being accused of being too close to a man for him to even think it was alright to subject him to such torture.

I believe that your ideas, for a layperson or not, are good. But the problem should not only be legitimized by the feminists the internet seems to hate (that I have never met on this same internet, but no doubt exist) and the men who are too "manly" to acknowledge this could happen to them or any other man. I actually saw a very good example of male rape on television this past weekend (The Leftovers). The aggressor was a woman. I see this as a step forward as well.

As for me saying you narrowly defined rape culture, I believe that you're smart enough to know you can add your definition in and be inclusive instead of separating. Say what you want about feminists but do not throw female victims of rape under the bus because you don't like a bunch of girls yelling at men on the internet. It isn't fair.

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[–]aussietoads 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Um, your quote formatting is incorrect it's attributing things to me that I did not say, that said, I agree with you on legal equality, but not your other stance on social equality

I completely understand your frustration levels, but the thing is MRAs and original wave of Feminists have a common goal, and that is gender equality.

You did write that didn't you? If so, then I correctly quoted you. It may not be the usual reddit format, but it is the correct common English format universally applicable when attributing the words within quotations to another person who said or wrote them. If you didn't write or say those words inside the quotations, then who did? As for attributing words to you that you did not say, perhaps you are confusing the single quotemarks used to highlight certain words of mine following your quoted sentence as quotes. If so, my apologies.

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