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Rise of the female breadwinner stalls as men see pay packets grow. Setback for feminism but days of the working father and stay-at-home mother as ‘default’ family are over, says think-tank study

TR6Cool

October 20, 2015

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Title	Rise of the female breadwinner stalls as men see pay packets grow. Setback for feminism but days of the working father and stay-at-home mother as ‘default’ family are over, says think-tank study
Author	TR6Cool
Upvotes	17
Comments	10
Date	October 20, 2015 11:17 AM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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Sure, but wasn't this because the father was the sole one expected to be financially responsible for his children and even his wife? I believe Karen Straughan has spoken about this before.

Edit: Found a transcript of one of her presentations, but I'd recommend reading the entire thing.

http://www.avoiceformen.com/a-voice-for-men/karen-straughan-presentation-to-the-international-conference-on-mens-issues-2014-womenagainstfeminism/

"Because the husband and father was and is responsible for the subsistence of his wife and family therefore he was recognized as logically the proper person to administer and inherit the property of the family”—including the child. “But as time wore away the barriers raised for protection became coercive between the family and the world; as individual life began to call women out of the home, and property amassed by the wife was claimed by the husband and used sometimes for his benefit rather than hers, the gradual changes began to take place which have in the last 30 or 40 years entirely changed the relation of the wife toward property and the guardianship of her children. This change has all been in the favor of the wife and mother, and one after another the privileges which men had over the property of their wives and the guardianship of their children have not only been lost but many of them have been actually reversed.” That’ll be the Tender Years Doctrine. “The legal relations are as though they were unmarried, excepting marriage. The wife cannot release the husband from the obligation to support her.

“For over thirty years—” already, in 1910, for over 30 years—“a woman has been able to hold and enjoy her separate property, however acquired, even when it had been given by her husband, freed from any interference or control by him, and from all liability for his debts. A husband is, however, liable for necessaries purchased by his wife and also for money given his wife by a third person to purchase necessaries, and he is bound to support her and her children without regard to her individual or separate estate. Even when a separation occurs—” and this is really crucial because divorce was extremely hard to come by; and so when families, when couples, split up, they were separated, but they could not divorce unless one was at fault … “Even when a separation occurs a husband is compelled through the payment of alimony to continue to support his wife, nothing short of infidelity on her part and consequent divorce relieving him of that liability. No obligation, however, to furnish necessities to a husband rests upon the wife under any circumstances whatever.

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