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In 2014, 6 out of 33 reported campus rapes (18%) at Harvard University were classified as "unfounded".

Jasperkr672

October 2, 2015
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/r/MensRights
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2015/10/2/reported-rapes-nearly-doubles/
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Title In 2014, 6 out of 33 reported campus rapes (18%) at Harvard University were classified as "unfounded".
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Jasperkr672

Upvotes 123
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Date October 2, 2015 6:29 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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[–]jdub_06 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

43 sexual offences. sexual offences "refers to fondling, rape, incest, and statutory rape." I choose to believe all 43 consisted of incest fondling. hey brother, u feel my skull ill let you feel my bone.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just for the record, this means 'false' and 'baseless'. This does not mean that the remaining 27 were true, but rather, they had sex and the accused admitted to it, which immediately makes it possible that a rape happened in the books of colleges.

[–]boringcarpets 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Still can't get my head around universities investigating crimes

[–]Lethn 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't get me started on that shit.

[–]dungone 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

So how many Harvard students were actually convicted of rape in a court of law? Strange how the article leaves that part out. Probably because it stayed the same or went down and that's not the narrative. My very conservative guess is zero, with actual rapes hovering somewhere around that same figure. What they need to do is start throwing false accusers in jail. That will quickly reconcile the number of reports with the number of actual rapes.

[–]xNOM 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

In recent years, it looks like Cambridge MA has about 22 rapes per 100k inhabitants.

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Cambridge-Massachusetts.html

Population in 2013: 107,289

http://www.city-data.com/city/Cambridge-Massachusetts.html

Students: 21,000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_University

So there should be about 4 or 5 rape convictions per year at Harvard? Maybe more since 18-24 yr old women have the highest rape victimization rates. Or maybe not since since the student and townie populations are so different. Impossible to say, I guess.

EDIT: also rape rates are lower on campuses than off

[–]dungone 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

You know, you made me curious so I did a little more digging around. Turns out the city-data stats are likewise only for reported crimes - no better than the Clery Act stats. In fact, I found the actual police report: http://www.cambridgema.gov/~/media/Files/policedepartment/AnnualCrimeReports/2014AnnualReport_FINAL.ashx It gets murkier if you look at page 8 - they actually count reported attempted rape as just "rape".

Keep in mind that only something like 6% of police reports end up in a conviction (according to RAINN so take it with a grain of salt: https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates). So let's assume that maybe 1 person in Cambridge actually got sent to jail for rape. So that's 1 in 100k. What would that be out of 21k? Maybe 1 every 4-5 years at the very most, if you assume the demographics are comparable. It would seem like my guess holds up.

Anyway, the reported rates are still useful for our purposes, just in a different way. We know that actual rapes are thought to be lower on campus than off campus. So why are the reports of rape so much higher on campus than off? It's 33 reports among 21k students versus 22 reports among 100k residents. That's pretty messed up.

Also, look more closely at the Clery Act stats: http://www.hupd.harvard.edu/files/hupd/files/hupd_15_asr_cambridge_statistics_100115.pdf?m=1443708568 They separate statutory rape as a separate stat and have 0 reports of it. They city stats don't look like they separate them. Making the discrepancy in reports of regular rape likely to be even worse.

[–]xNOM 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're right. It looks like the ~22 number is reported rapes, not convictions.

It's 33 reports among 21k students versus 22 reports among 100k residents. That's pretty messed up.

It might be possible to report rapes to Harvard but not to the police?

Also, why is incest on campus being measured :-) Is it really that much of a problem?

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