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Deutsche Bank had a forum on women in business and called it “Men Matter”

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September 22, 2015
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http://qz.com/507901/deutsche-bank-had-a-forum-on-women-in-business-and-called-it-men-matter/
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Title Deutsche Bank had a forum on women in business and called it “Men Matter”
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Date September 22, 2015 6:50 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Jackson fucking Katz quoted in the PR material of Deutsche fucking Bank, and feminists still claim they're the underdog rebels fighting the establishment and sticking it to the man.

Of course men matter. Women aren't going to do it by themselves.

The role of the man who's reached the senior executive level is to promote himself as the enlightened reformer, pushing down his male challengers and gathering a harem of thankful women around himself. The role of men lower down the hierarchy is to keep their mouths shut if they know what's good for them.

Win for women in bid to hike super pay

After consultation with the Australian Human Rights Commission, Rice Warner will on Wednesday launch measures to help its female staff retire with bigger nest-eggs - including by paying them an extra 2 per cent superannuation, granting 18 weeks' parental leave at full pay, and paying full super during parental leave, including unpaid leave, for up to 12 months.

The Human Rights Commission has examined the plan and considers it a ''special measure'' designed to redress gender inequality, and therefore allowed under the Sex Discrimination Act.

Melissa Fuller, Rice Warner's deputy chief executive, said it had been welcomed by all staff, including the men.

''They are all supportive and understand the aim behind the initiative,'' she said.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/04/why-the-us-economy-is-biased-against-men/256023/?single_page=true

Visit American workplaces, especially major corporations, and you'll find that anti-men practices are not only tolerated but routinely imposed by employers. Women but not men are encouraged to form committees and caucuses to advance their sex's causes in the workplace, often at men's expense. Examples:

  • Mentor programs for women only

  • Special training for women only

  • Fast-track-to-executive position for women only

In honest conversation, most people will agree that, on average, men are more often willing to do the things it takes to get promoted, for example, to make time to take advanced technical courses by forgoing recreation such as sports or shopping. Men are more likely to be willing to move to a God-forsaken place (Montgomery, Alabama, anyone?) for a promotion, and, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, to work longer hours.

Most people will also agree that, on average, women are more eager to have children and to be deeply involving in their upbringing. So women's committees and caucuses, with the help of outside advocacy groups with close ties to the media such as Catalyst, NOW, and AAUW, have pressured workplaces to institute programs for employees' children, for example:

  • On-site child care, which diverts money from all employees' salaries and/or raises company products' prices, which ultimately costs jobs.

  • Formal or informal policies that allow parents to leave work early, for example, to attend their kid's soccer game, leaving non-parents of both sexes to pick up the slack. And those non-parents, especially men, dare not raise a peep of objection lest they be dubbed sexist, which can hurt their career.

  • Women's advocacy groups also were successful in pressuring the government to create The Family and Medical Leave Act*, which allows employees to--usually with minimal verification of need--take up to 12 weeks every year(!) to care for a relative, with a guarantee that their job will be held for them until they choose to return. (Women take the majority of FMLA days.) Now those advocacy groups are pressuring employers to make FMLA days-off paid days.

  • For parents (again, disproportionately women) who wish to take years off to raise their offspring, many corporations have established on-ramps to help them get their career back despite having lost their technical and Rolodex's currency, and now often being less committed to work than are their non-parent coworkers.

Men's efforts to organize into groups have largely been ridiculed, for example, portraying men's groups as troglodytes tromping into the woods to beat tom-toms. And men's organizations have been pressured to admit women, for example, the service clubs: Rotary, Kiwanis, and Lions. Further limiting men's ability to organize, men's groups don't get the enormous free advertising the media gives to women's groups.

Yet ironically, America is making yet more efforts to exacerbate the anti-male sexism in our economy. Last year, President Obama created a well-funded Council on Women and Girls but rejected one on men and boys. Here is that rejected proposal. (Bias alert: I am a member of the commission that created that proposal.) And in Obama's April 6, 2012 speech at the White House Forum on Women and the Economy, he reiterated that he wants to focus yet more on women: "(I) look forward to continuing the important work we are doing to promote the interests of women." After all, women earn 77 cents on the dollar.

[–]Sasha_ 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Right. So it turns out that women aren't very good at promoting 'women in business':

Quote: “Women’s networks and activities end up as politically savvy deflectors for blame,” where in fact corporate culture at all levels should be assessed, she wrote."

Translation: "GOD! Have you been to the 'Women in Leadership' group? It's SUCH a bitching-fest. It's women who work in banking - and the men are bad enough bastards already, the women are even worse. I'm not going to another one..."

Quote: "One of Wittenberg-Cox’s solutions: “Get men to lead the charge.”

Translation: "Look, we're going to have to get a man in to do work. We're getting no-where fast."

[–]EmpathyOverSympathy 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here's an idea: how's about you just have a fucking Diversity Conference and make it about all issues of diversity, rather than build these special interest committees that just end up making the problem worse.

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