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"Feminists want us to define these ugly sexual encounters as rape. Don’t let them."

Bleedingoutnow

May 21, 2015
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/05/20/feminists-want-us-to-define-these-ugly-sexual-encounters-as-rape-dont-let-them/?tid=sm_fb
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Title "Feminists want us to define these ugly sexual encounters as rape. Don’t let them."
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Bleedingoutnow

Upvotes 169
Comments 7
Date May 21, 2015 12:57 AM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/36p7bf/feminists_want_us_to_define_these_ugly_sexual/
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[–]Ted8367 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

... unpleasant overtones of “we decide what’s best for you”; Kend, explicitly states that if you cannot have “an adult conversation” about sex, “you shouldn’t be having it.” The meddling turns starkly authoritarian when the “encouragement” involves potential penalties ...

These people are intruding into the affairs of others. Why do they do it? Not because of genuine concern for victims:

It is time to rethink this crusade, which criminalizes too much sex, thereby trivializing actual sexual violence.

It must be some other reason. I would suggest the weaponization of the sexual accusation, used to empower the accusers.

[–]TownesVZ 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I had a very similar discussion with a feminist about this last night. I told her that I've had experiences where under such a broad umbrella could be considered rape. But I don't consider myself a rape victim or survivor and it only serves to disparage the experiences of real victims. She told me that, "Unless you feel like you were raped, then you weren't". To which I responded, if that's the case, then you have to admit there are a lot less rape victims than feminists are leading us to believe.

[–]detabe 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't believe that an alleged victim's "feeling" about whether or not a crime was committed should serve as a legal basis for determining whether or not a crime indeed took place.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Interestingly enough, sex with a feminist is also typically an ugly encounter.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is a direct result of being taught that nothing is your fault for their entire childhood. Everything happens TO you, not BECAUSE of you. Therefore, if something looks like you made a mistake, it was actually someone doing something to you. Thanks, liberals.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

You're conflating liberalism with the effect of over-zealous (read: [most] modern) feminism in this case. Most of the "wussy" parenting that has evolved into what you're speaking of is likely quite related to the effect of modern feminism on relationships and of course, parenting.

I think we both realize this, and that's why we're here? I'm very much an MRA but also both a parent and a liberal, something that hasn't changed much despite turning my view of these topics on it's head recently (though it has made me more moderate on certain topics).

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not really. The almost-perfect correlation between liberalism and feminism is pretty well documented at this point.

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