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Female McMaster professors will get a pay boost

goatsandbros

April 28, 2015
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/female-mcmaster-professors-will-get-a-pay-boost-1.3052626
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Title Female McMaster professors will get a pay boost
Author

goatsandbros

Upvotes 18
Comments 6
Date April 28, 2015 10:19 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/347gq0/female_mcmaster_professors_will_get_a_pay_boost/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/female-mcmaster-professors-will-get-a-pay-boost.981619
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[–]ZimbaZumba 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

You receive your rights as an individual not a group. Individual professor should have an increase if they are unfairly paid, not because they members of a group who on average is under paid. Also how on earth are they defining under paid.

This could now result in some females now being over paid and some males professors being under paid. I also hope to god they have not fallen into the Simpson's Paradox trap.

[–]yelirbear 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Well from the article:

Researchers looked at the average salaries of male and female faculty based on appointment type, department, rank and the number of years in the rank. It found the difference to be a mean amount of $3,515.

They say the will release their study soon and I'd be interested to see it.

[–]ralphswanson 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I noticed that merit was curiously absent from the criteria. Females have benefited from affirmative action in higher education for decades. Hiring was not on merit and now pay is not on merit.

[–]ZimbaZumba 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The devil is in the details here. The only way I can see an inequity occurring is at the number of steps in rank given at hiring. But then I don't know the whole of the issue here.

[–]SomeGuy58439 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

From another thread on this article, you find a link to a January 2014 report at McMaster on whether or not a gender-based wage gap exists which, as the commenter mentioned, notes:

The results from the regression and decomposition analyses both suggest that at the 5 percent significance level, there is insufficient evidence to reject the Null hypothesis. Accordingly, there is not enough evidence to support a conclusion that the observed pay difference between male and female full-time faculty is due to gender.

(EDIT: It's worth noting that they seemed to reach a p-value of about 0.07 with the sort of weasel words that sometimes go along with that later on).

[–]yelirbear 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow. How they hell did they justify giving all female staff raises if they found no evidence of a gap?

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