This Soviet cartoon challenges bourgeois hypergamy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekdWS1c3-bg

Бременские музыканты (Bremenskie Muzykanty) is a Soviet animated parody of the Jakob Grimm's fairytale Town Musicians of Bremen, with a revolutionary twist.

The main characters are a quintet of traveling musicians: A dog, a cat, a rooster, an ass, and a human troubadour.

When the poor traveling musicians arrive at the wealthy king's town, the troubadour falls in love with the king's daughter. Then the quintet gets kicked out of the castle, so the troubadour and the princess sing about missing one another and freeing her from the boring palace. Inspired by the plans of 4 nearby robbers, the band of 5 kidnaps the king so that he'll have to let his daughter see the troubadour again. When the quintet lets the king back into his castle, he lets in only the troubadour, and the troubadour rescues the princess to be with the rest of the band in the end.

TL;DR: In this Soviet film, the moral of the story is friendship, freedom, and love over wealth; whereas in Hollywood, the romantic plot typically revolves around a man having to become wealthy or otherwise successful in order to seduce his hypergamous love interest. Men in communist countries are not given the same misandric expectations of being the main providers, and so the women there have been deconditioned from hypergamy or at least from any classist manifestations thereof.

So, would it be fair to conclude that communist countries are generally the least misandric?

[–]SvitlanaLeo 9 points10 points11 points 10 months ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

No, and your post contains a whole bunch of logical errors.

First of all, you took one single cartoon, created in one single country that declares communist ideology. And they drew far-reaching conclusions about all such countries from this one cartoon. That's not serious.

If I were you, instead of just one cartoon, I'd analyze Soviet laws to determine:

Were men legally protected from rape, just like women? (Spoiler: no, they weren't protected from sexual violence by women at all, and this was clearly stated in the law. Try to find an article in the Soviet Criminal Code that would protect a man from sexual violence by a woman – you won’t find it.)

Did men receive pensions at the same age as women? (Spoiler: no.)

Did men receive equal punishments for the same crimes as women? (Spoiler: no. No, not at the level of court decisions: discrimination against men in this regard was established by the legislative branch.)

What kind of army was it—conscriptionist or all-volunteer, and if it was conscriptionist, were women and men conscripted equally? (Spoiler: the army was conscriptionist, and men were conscripted; you may point out some exceptions in this regard, but overall, this was the picture: the overwhelming majority of conscripted soldiers participating in actual combat were men.)

I am a communist, but to pretend that there was little misandry in the USSR – sorry, no.

A huge part of male activism in Russia and other post-Soviet countries is the struggle to overturn the gender-biased laws that were introduced in the USSR.

[–]AnFGhosterleft-wing male advocate 1 point2 points3 points 10 months ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm going to preface this with I like you and this is a good comment.

I agree with your assessment but I must insist we give credit where it's due. Last time I looked into this to build a case in another left sub for gender neutral conscription models I specifically looked at the USSR because it was the nation in WWII to most widely use women in combat roles. Good on them. I was however disappointed to read the numbers of women utilized, most were not frontliners, and they received greater rations than their male comrades.

However this all being true, the fact they went so far at all I think is worthy of making note.

[–]SuperMario69Kraftleft-wing male advocate[S] -1 points0 points1 point 10 months ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]SvitlanaLeo 0 points1 point2 points 10 months ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

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