Warren Farrell's book

a-man-from-earth · 2022-03-19T01:30:33+00:00

Let's not link to a hostile sub.

TerryTheTramp · 2022-03-19T00:16:42+00:00

Caveats: Haven't read the book for about 15 years and don't have a copy beside me. Only read Third Post, because that's as far as my interest could take me.

The first half of the post seemed to be 'men are doing it to other men, therefore the victims deserve no sympathy." I generally consider this to be at best a weak argument, and at worst a sociopathic argument. It seems like Farrell is trying to counter the Apex Fallacy by showing that the vast majority of men are being exploited at work, which is hardly Privilege. The Poster brings up the tired old argument that because the CEO is probably a man, men being exploited have no right to sympathy. Still doesn't even engage with the issue that if almost all men are being exploited at work, it is not Privilege. Admittedly, the CEO is very Privileged. I would argue that this is a class issue rather than a gender issue. In my opinion, the poster's refutation of Farrell doesn't reach the standard of 'solid'.

The second half is a series of quotes with no context. Maybe they are meant to be self evidently absurd. Without seeing the context of the quotes, or any attempt to argue why they are wrong, I can't really judge whether these arguments by Farrell are strong or weak. A complex argument, especially one that goes against the established narrative, takes several pages to build up. It might be a solid argument, or it might be weak, or even absurd. But with only a snippet presented with no commentary, I really can't judge.

It's possible some or all of the other counter arguments are strong, but I can't really be bothered to check.

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Metrorexz · 2022-03-20T03:41:40+00:00

Woah

Title	Warren Farrell's book
Author	Metrorexz
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Comments	4
Date	March 18, 2022 11:21 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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