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[–]OatsGYOW26 points27 points28 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Wrong sub
[–]Aashami10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I concur with OatsGYOW this sub should stay away from politics, it will do nothing for us, plus both the left and right hate us.
[+]some1thing1[S] -9 points-8 points-7 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
The left in my opinion is responsible for the current state of affairs between mgtow and women.
[–]Endsieg45 15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude, the “left” and “right” are bullshit. Its the two sides of a very small overton window that exists in western politics. The ideology is the same, they only differ on policy. Modern politics are not going to help with issues that we care about as mgtow in the long run. Sure, one party might do something or not do something that is slightly better in the short term, but ultimately everything is only going one way in the west and has been since before the enlightenment.
We should keep politics out of here for sure. You don’t need to be a libertarian or any specific ideology to be mgtow. Its universal.
[–]DangZagnut14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Not sure how. Women have been a problem long before the last 20 years of SJWism.
[–]some1thing1[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Nah I watched liberal feminist women degrade my mom for not being like them for the last 20 years. My family is functional and healthy. The organized left wing push for control of women's values has destroyed many womens lives and men's relationships with them
[–]Shimakaze45 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
While the right has some issues, I agree with you. We're looking at a left wing government winning our election in a months time, Australia is going to turn into a fucking shit heap under it.
[–]some1thing1[S] -4 points-3 points-2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
F I'm sorry to hear that. We're hoping to repeat trump 2020
[–]Texian_Fusilier5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're both right. It didnt start with the SJWs but they did exacerbate it worse than many of us thought possible. 3 years ago? My blue pill ass would've said no way. But now, my blue pill days are long behind me.
[–]OatsGYOW7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
What you are talking about is Tradcon, not MGTOW.
Women in the fifties were submissive and attentive while keeping their mouths shut, but they still leeched your resources with no real benefit aside form companionship, children, and housekeeping. I'm in the boat (like you) that would be happy with that if it were possible, but its not.
MGTOW is more a-political, leaning libertarian simply because we need our freedom to be free. You can be a socialist and still be MGTOW, I'd say.
[–]1-800-CALL-MGTOW7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You're right in that mgtow is ferociously individualistic just like libertarians , and I am a libertarian. While we should mostly keep politics away from this sub you cannot deny that the left has been much much more destructive than the right, no matter how anti men or complacent the right is.
[–]OatsGYOW4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I won't deny that, no. The left is ridiculously anti-man.
[–]Sir_manalot1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Are you sure that the right is less destructive?
Or is it that they haven't had the chance to go on a rampage like we gave the leftists (stupidly).
Who started the nsa again? Who lied so we can get in pointless and costly wars in the middle east?
Who tried to censor video games and porn?
And what has Trump actually dine for us? He gave the rich more tax breaks. He made if so alimony isn't tax deductible anymore.
Mark my words, give the right a chance and they will ban birth control, make you work 80+ hours for a 40 hour wage, spy on you, censor you and create a bachelor tax.
[–]Aashami0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To a certain extent you are right but don’t forget about the “traditionalists” in the right, my friend.
[–]GrisBosque19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
The left is being run by feminists... ignore them at your own risk...
Its always about the lesser of two evils... And at least with the capitalists you decide what services to use and what to buy.
You let them Dems win, and the hoes are gonna get a big raise. And youre gonna pay for it.
[–]Endsieg45 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
The “right” in the west never stays the same. It always just trails behind the “left” by a few decades on certain issues but always gets to the same point that the left was at in the past on every single issue.
Remember, liberalism and capitalism created the modern situation, especially the situation with women. Who promotes all of this stuff? The capitalists. Neither side is good.
[–]GrisBosque6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I'm more libertarian.
I dont belong to either tribe.
I see the left being way more dangerous right now. Socialism only works for an elite that produce nothing. And nothing escapes their control trips. At least with capitalists you can choose to do whatever you decide. If you want to do something about climate change you can get solar or buy an electric car...
With the socialists youll ride the bus.
And Ive been living in a third world country and riding the bus because they have import duties that double the price on new cars and even on old vehicles duty is half new price....
You dont wanna live like that... where few can afford their own transport and you get charged thru the nose for hauling etc.
hauling groceries on the bus is no fun.
I'd rather have options than control and stiff fees to do what I need to or want.
[–]Endsieg45 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I understand where you are coming from but think about it, who is promoting western “socialism” and everything you just described? Rich capitalist technocrats. You dont get an option, because everything that happens is by design. There is not one high level corporation that is not in absolute full support of everything that we dont like.
[–]GrisBosque1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
its hard to control me.... Women never had any luck at that. And I tend to not worry about things far away. I control capitalism by my choices.
If they cant sell something it has zero value. If I buy something theyll make more of whatever it is.
I have more power over the system in how I channel the money, than they do over me.
"When the people are ruled with a harsh hand, they become cunning." (Tao)...
Translation: out think them and do work arounds....
Politics is Rats fighting each other for who gets to Swiss our cheese.
Was designed to keep them busy... divide and conquer.
Jefferson and Ale drinking buddies were no dummies...
People just need to realize the power they have.
The truth is invariably liberating.
And the farther you are from Central Control, the harder it is for them to enforce it.
[–]Endsieg45 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You are correct that the population has more power. The problem is that the vast majority of the population is directing all of that power towards defending the problem.
[–]GrisBosque0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
true... thats why a mass enlightenment is required....
"Hell is the truth realized too late."
Wisdom is knowing others, enlightenment is knowing yourself.
Defending the problem does not guarantee its continuation. it just prolongs the cure, and likely creates a drop off.... ie the cycle ends up more gradual going up, and whoopsi its a long ways down to the sudden stop....
Best one get their own shit together. survival might become more individualized.
[–]northstar1618012345 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The left is destroying the country. What's not to love about that??
Well... everything in the Universe is made up of webs of dichotomy pairs...
And the other side of that one, is the reaction is causing an American Rennaisance...
Universe balances everything. no exceptions.
Obama didnt like Deplorables and their guns and religion, And sold more guns than anyone in human history....
in fact, one third of all guns sold in US history happened on his watch...
So now the Libs are doubling down on stupid and running even farther left... What will we gain from that? people moving farther towards Constitutionalism....
I read the Constitution as a kid, it was mind boggling! Had a copy of the Declaration of Independence on my wall. Astounding words of fire to a rebelous kid!
Nothing unifies humans so well as an enemy....
The American Government by design is very Libertarian... its about personal freedoms and responsibilities.
And currently the Dems have twenty people running for president. One suspects theyre all in it for left over campaign donation money, ie whipping up their base to do a personal wealth harvest.
Trump registered day one. and has been quietly collecting for 2.5 years.
Then you have the Circus and Clown shows that the Dems do....
Theyve never been right about anything since 2016.... and the only time they did serious damage was on the health care legistation, and McCain did that.
(And then he had some really bad Karma.)
And who do they got? theyre running a spread of victims... Every one of them is pandering to a group with their lower lip stuck out....
Meanwhile, everybody willing to work is getting some bag...
The Libs think the world owes them a living. Everybody else thinks they'd rather have opportunity than hand outs....
Hand outs are for bums... People with guts and brains know they can do better via whatever path they hump on.
I'm with the Sailors running a tight ship, not with those passengers moaning in the bilges....
Americans are by nature "Privateers".
We have a certain flexibility... kind of somewhere between Merchantmen and Men of war....
And our crews are motley but highly effective...
Its why we are the dominant culture on the planet...
We have an attitude....
We dont care where you are from. all we care is you are trying to better yourself.
Victims? wrong attitude for the culture.
[–]1Badshot1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wrong sub.
[–]Vidar341 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The same could be said about the Right. Maybe America needs a centrist political party for sane people.
[–]Going_my_own_way730 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What part of MGTOW screams I need to post my hatred of a particular political party? Get that shit out of here!
[–]MuleFool420 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not the right place, dude. This sub is for every man, whatever their politics.
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[–]some1thing1[S] 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They freaked out and straight up banned the npc meme
[–]MakeDawn4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
also, Pepe was officially the #1 symbol of hate lmao
[–]Wannabe_Investor11 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I think Tulsi Gabbard is quite decent tbh. But most of the decent candidates are fringe candidates imo
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