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After Taking The Red Pill 😂

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December 16, 2018

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Title	After Taking The Red Pill 😂
Author	XandertheGreat01
Upvotes	461
Comments	143
Date	December 16, 2018 8:15 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/a6nhfi/after_taking_the_red_pill/
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[–][deleted] 143 points144 points145 points 7 years ago* (132 children) | Copy Link

Senior Software Developer here. I work from home, make fucking tonnes of money, and I live in my own cottage in the country, away from civilisation. If I have to go out to the local shops I dress country style, fit in with the locals, tweed flat cap, TM Lewin shirt and smart shoes etc. It's a nice little community with no thots.

If I have to go into the city (45 minute train journey) I dress like a complete hobo. I kid you not. Scruffy trainers, jeans, a long green parka fishtail jacket (think of the Mods in Quadrophenia) and a scruffy hand knitted hat. I should post a picture sometime, I literally look homeless.

I walk around the city in this outfit completely invisible to females.... and I tell you it's such a blessing, it's beautiful to simply be invisible.

Some people may imagine this to be horrible, but not me, I LOVE it. I pop into the bank, take out 500 or 700, whatever I feel like, then go buy what I need to treat myself (sometimes new laptop, gaming gear, gadgets etc).

The ladies who work at the bank know me, they know what I do, where i live, how much i earn, and they are always super nice to me and see past my outfit, the other day I spent about 45 mins chatting to one of them (i went to the bank early, no other customers) about life in the country in a little cottage.

The beauty of all of this is knowing how VERY easy it is to manipulate peoples perception of you, especially women.

If you are dressed poor (or homeless as i try to look) then you simply don't register to them, it's like they have a subconcious filter and you are not actually registered in their field of view.

Funniest thing is popping into Starbucks being served by some self entitled female millenial who look at you like shit and somehow think they are better because they make coffee and you look homeless... i smile and thank them as i take the train back to my country cottage, change back into normal clothes and enjoy a pint with my neighbours down the local pub.

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That's great, you're living the life I'll have in the next 5-10 years. I'm still only making six figures but have a 7 figure net worth and already financially independent (defined as my investment cash flow can cover my expenses), but I want to build a strong comfortable buffer before I pull the plug on my 9-to-5.

Want to end up in a downtown condo overlooking the water and walk/bike/public transit my way around the city and just manage my investments.

Also good call on putting a title on what you do. I've been thinking about this a lot, I've read a lot of the FIRE (Financial Independence Retire Early) blogs and it's clearly obvious that normies don't do well when you're still young and you tell them you're retired, it fucks with their mind.

So I'm going to register a shell company, have a website for it, and list myself as a Fund Manager (definitely not CEO or Managing Director or VP or some super senior title), and on the website say that it's a boutique investment firm that only deals with Family Offices and High Net Worth families, is discreet and new clients are by referral only. That will be my cover story that I can tell people in social situations and that's enough to pass the normie sniff test and if anyone Googles me, everything looks legit because in essence, it is.

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Great post! Wanted to comment on this part:

The ladies who work at the bank know me, they know what I do, where i live, how much i earn, and they are always super nice to me and see past my outfit

I have a 7-figure stock portfolio and one time, I was changing accounts, so I needed to do some transfers. I had to move a high-six figures into my checking account temporarily and when I tried to move it to my new investment account, the bank's website wouldn't let me and said I had to go to the bank in person with ID to complete the transaction.

So I'm totally, scruffy, haven't had a shower yet, and I just put on my shoes and jacket and go to the bank.

The bank teller is a cute girl, at first I don't even register in her mind as I hand her my bank card.

Then she swipes it, takes a look at the screen in surprise, then takes another look, and starts massively flirting and asking me many questions about my personal life.

I knew exactly what the deal was, but it felt good, because unlike my looks or what I'm wearing, my money is a direct result of my hard work, sacrifice and smart decisions, so it's gratifying on that level.

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I worked with a guy with a good academic job and he had a separate income from his long term forestry/land ownership (guessing $2m+ valuation). He couldn't look like your outfit for work reasons but if you passed him in the street you would think he was just getting by. People at work thought he was relatively low class and undeserving of his position.

In summer some fake worn upper holes in your shoes around the big toes could help in both image and heat comfort.

For a t-shirt, I have found they usually wear out/start disconnecting around the 'collar' (the inch sewn in around the neck) both on the top of the collar and underneath, but if they're otherwise good quality that could take a little helping hand. Makes no difference to their effectiveness, but looks like you've been unable to replace them.

Mismatched socks would probably help and cause you no actual discomfort. I guess you could also polish a couple of shoes brown vs black for a true desperate look, despite them being a proper match. Same with fingerless woollen gloves in winter.

Maybe sew a patch on your jacket from somewhere like Greece so people think you're from a poor country, even if they don't recognize it.

Looking forward to your redacted photos in your outfit - put 500 in the background for extra fun.

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I can't recommend experience enough. Certainly here in the UK anyway. Build up your CV with experience on projects. They can be your own projects, or they can be other people's projects such as Codetriage where anyone can contribute.

If you can get experience as a volunteer Developer then even that helps, and there are plenty of Charities here that require Developers to do the odd task for them.

Once you have some sort of experience, you can start contacting IT companies. I'd recommend going on Linkedin and finding the ones nearest you, and contact the IT Managers directly, don't go through the usual HR channels as they will filter you out unless you have a CS Degree.

What's worked for me is contacting the IT Managers directly, giving them my CV and listing some of the projects i've worked on. I explain that i'm self taught and looking to progress my career, most will usually agree to meet you face to face as they love people who are passionate rather than people who just want a job.

I've looked at Codeacademy, I think it's brilliant. However, I don't think it's enough to land you a job. I think Codeacademy should be regarded as a tool which will give you the theory side of the job, and you then need to apply that theory to practical projects.

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Really good question. My job title is Senior Software Developer; I program various languages on various systems (actually just 3 but feels good).

When meeting people for the first time and they ask what I do, I usually say Computer Programmer unless I already know they are involved in IT, as most people have an idea of what a Programmer is (sits at a computer doing code stuff) whilst most people have never heard of a Software Developer so I have to explain in depth what I do.

However, in general a Programmer only programs, He writes code, fixes code, debugs code.

As a Developer i'm expected to be involved in the full life cycle of Software Development: analysis, design, coding, debugging etc. I'm also expected to be able to communicate with Customers on their projects on a very high level, so it requires some social skills (although as a home working that is over skype or mobile phone which the company provides along with the laptop).

Now, having explained the differences; you can have a Programmer on 100k a year, and a Developer on 25k a year, and vice versa. It's a vast industry, and some companies pay well whilst some pay badly.

Your card declined Programmer guy may be on the very bottom end of the scale, may be supporting a family, maybe he has a drug habit, maybe he is just bad with money.

Or, he could be a 100k Programmer who just loves cocaine (i've met more than one) so he basically snorts his wages away.

Speaking for myself, if I wanted to I could live in a large 4 or 5 bedroom house, have a few cars. But that would never make me happy. Instead I live frugally. OK I admit my riverside cottage is a luxury, but I keep it sparse inside. Bare minimum furniture. I sleep in the large master bedroom on a simple fold out futon (it's good for the back and I like sleeping close to the floor).

My savings is enough for me to retire today, but I absolutely love what I do. I really can't get across how passionate I am about programming, it's an obsession. I love the fact I get paid to play with code.

So, I practice Stoicism (username checks out) as much as possible, I meditate as much as possible, and I read like a maniac. My books are my biggest luxury. Only about 500 as i had recently donated about 200 to charity, but I truly do treasure my books.

I love the simple life. No woman EVER enters my home, there is no reason too. There is no noise, no drama, I don't have to explain anything to anyway. If I want to pop down the pub for a pint and chat with the locals then I can. If I want to put on my hiking gear and simply go off exploring the countryside then I can.

I know if I had a woman in my life she'd feminise the place, force me to buy furniture I don't want, decorate it all fancy with clutter I don't want (I detest clutter) and then probably want to pop out a few babies.

Marriage.... NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS! You think i'd risk some bitch taking my riverside cottage from me? FUCK THAT!

I'm probably lucky in that although i'm alone, i'm never lonely. I completely thrive in solitude. At the same time I know the importance of interaction, hence I regularly meet neighbours down the pub to chat over Guinness... but they are mostly male and when they do bring their wives they never discuss relationships with me, never ask me why I live alone etc

Men are attracted to the country and simple lifestyle. Women are attracted to the city with endless dick and drugs.

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Ok, this is creepy. Its been many months the last time I came to this sub, and when I do, I see your comments, and it sounds too much like me.

I live in my own cottage in the country, away from civilisation.

If I have to go into the city (...) I dress like a complete hobo. I kid you not. (...) I literally look homeless.

a large 4 or 5 bedroom house (...) would never make me happy. Instead I live frugally. (...) I keep it sparse inside. Bare minimum furniture. I sleep (...) on a simple fold out futon (it's good for the back and I like sleeping close to the floor).

Then a combo:

My savings is enough for me to retire today, but I absolutely love what I do. I really can't get across how passionate I am about programming, it's an obsession. I love the fact I get paid to play with code.

2 hits!

So, I practice Stoicism (username checks out) as much as possible, I meditate as much as possible, and I read like a maniac. My books are my biggest luxury.

3 HITS!

I love the simple life. No woman EVER enters my home, there is no reason too. There is no noise, no drama, I don't have to explain anything to anyway.

Ok, the opponent hit the ground. And then:

I'm probably lucky in that although i'm alone, i'm never lonely. I completely thrive in solitude. At the same time I know the importance of interaction, hence I regularly meet neighbours (...) to chat (...) but they are mostly male(...)

Creepy. Makes me think of Rick an Morty.

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The farthest I could go was on a rural area on the mountains. Power grid was there, sewer and water systems not so much, so it had to be done. Internet required big antenas, and it was slow and quite unstable. I moved to a small town with 5k habitants, and everything was fine. Two years later and back I am to Big City. Lets say I "chicken out" on some goals (or are my eyes bigger than my stomach?) and looked for more financial security before going back.

Does e-books count? I'm one with my tablet, and my Tablet is with me anytime I need to sit down for more than 15 minutes. Also, I hardly stay for more than a year on the same place, so moving physical stuff would be extra work. Most of my important stuff is on my backpack. A huge one.

What about audiobooks? Time is short, those dishes won't wash themselves, those teeth won't brush themselves, so it is something I use a damn lot, if it is non-fiction.

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Pretty much. I think the term software developer is derived from the term software engineer. They all program or have been programmers or lead programming teams. All the terms are interchangeable. Some organizations try to differentiate them to specific positions but it's inconsistent across the industry and, therefore, ambiguous.

Interestingly, the term, software engineer, was coined by Margaret Hamilton, of NASA Apollo mission fame. She was tired of the programmers being looked down upon by other types of engineers simply because engineer was not part of the job title. Thus Software Engineering was born and Hamilton was lead Software Engineer for NASA's Apollo missions.

If I were forced into making a distinction, I'd say Programmers spit out code, often by brute force, and have no quality checks. Software Engineers develop code with a set of rules that have documented quality checks and testing.

When I go to family reunions, I just say I'm a programmer. Otherwise their heads tilt to the side and they go, "eh?".

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OK i admit you are right to an extent. Some people don't have the brain power, some people just cannot grasp concepts like logic and object oriented programming.

What I should really say is, anyone with the right brain can achieve it regardless of their background, qualifications, experience.

Let me briefly put it into perspective for you (I try to keep my story brief otherwise I end up writing a mini-novel): about 10 years ago I was homeless, I ended up in a hostel with junkies and prostitutes. Life was crap.

However, I did not want to stay that way. I had a laptop with me, probably my only real possession. So I spent all my time practicing coding and going my own projects. I then approached some small IT companies and asked if I could work for them for free in exchange for experience in programming.

It worked, so I wrote a few programs for these companies in Perl as I was a big can of Perl, and they were in the ISP market hence UNIX and Perl. After adding this experience to my CV I sent it out to a few IT companies asking if they had any openings for a junior technician/programmer etc.

After 2 months one replied saying they had an opening as a Linux Engineer, a junior position but hey it was decent money. Once I had my foot in the door I involved myself in every project that I could, I liaised with Developers in the Software Team and got advice from them, I looked for things that I could solve by programming.

E.g., all of the UNIX servers (about 1000) would email a backup report every night which went into a MySQL database. A junior technician would then spend half a day going through every single email in MySQL to check if the % of disk space hit a certain threshold. When I found out I told my line manager that I could automate this with a Bash script, so he said ok go for it.

I then put in a few late evenings, wrote a massive Bash script which automated the process and emailed a single email each day with a list of all UNIX servers about to hit disk space problems.

This was the sort of thing I did no a regular basis, so much so that I ended up doing more programming than server admin. It wasn't long until I was able to use that experience to get a new role as a 100% Developer.

The rest, as they say. Is history.

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That's very true. I've met plenty of stuck up people who came from wealthy families, didn't have the abusive homelife that I had, had their university paid for by their parents and would go around bragging and looking down on anyone who did not go to university.

I never understood this mindset, as everyone's life goes a different path often without us having any choice. For me there was no possibility of university as I was bullied to much and beaten up at school that I left the day I turned 16... hence not a single qualification to my name.

I don't regret it though, I did many jobs such as cleaning, factory work, painting & decorating, bricklaying, I eventually ended up working in child protection until moving into IT. I'm glad my life when down this path as I experienced more than I would have had i went to university.

For example: my life could have gone 2 different paths:

1: Normal childhood, university studying CS, graduate and walk into developer job and do that for the rest of my life.

2: Shit childhood, no qualifications at all, take on many jobs meeting various kinds of people who i'd have never met had I gone to university, learned to humble myself scrubbing floors on my hands and knees, learn to build walls with bricks, rescue numerous abused kids and give them a new life. Teach myself programming and learn how to learn (if that makes sense).

So, i'm glad I never had the university path, as I feel i'm more rounded as a person because I lead my own life.

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