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Nah, son. I haven't seen any legit statistics from either OP or you, but in the absence of that all I have to go off are anecdotes and my own observations and experience. And what these suggest to me is that women are on average more incompetent than men. Sure there are incompetent weasel males. No one here is denying that. But unless you can give me convincing evidence to the contrary, I take OP's thesis as provisionally true.
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Irrespective of what the nonexistent data shows, I can answer to your statements about emotions, intellectual dishonesty, and rationality.
I claimed to agree with OP's thesis on the basis of my personal observations. All I have implied by this is that my observations agree with his observations. There's nothing irrational to say two observations match. To conclude that women are on average less competent than men based on two observations is not my position. My position is simply that P(females are more incompetent | my observations & OP's observation) > P(females are not more incompetent | my observations & OP's observations). Why is this a rational position? The same reason why any sort of inductive reasoning anywhere is considered to be a rational basis to hold a belief.
I'm not sure where you are getting the part about feelings. I never mentioned them explicitly, and there's no reason to believe that feelings implicitly discount the validity of my observations either (either way there would be no way for you to tell, since you were not present during my observations).
Now the burden of proof/providing evidence bit. OP never claimed that "I observed females to be incompetent, therefore on average all females are incompetent on the basis of my observations". OP simply claimed that "I observed females to be incompetent", and his advice on the basis of this claim was to ask for a man. So the only thing for OP to prove is that he observed females to be incompetent, which is a very trivial thing to prove. On the other hand, you asserted two very general claims: 1. "There are plenty of incompetent weasel males in customer service and females that do the job well." 2."The numbers are not skewed enough, generally, to make this worth while." I am interested to see any sort of sources for 2. Sure, you are under no burden to provide proof for 2 in order for OP's claim to be unproven or false. For that matter, it will quite obviously remain unproven, because no one was there to observe OP making his obvservations and neither did OP have any sort of transcript of his dealings with female service. I'm simply asking to provide proof for 2 irrespective of OP's claim, since they are both independent anyways.
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"We both know the OP nor you are going to provide sources that support the claim that female customer service support is so bad across the board that one should immediately ask for a male. " No, neither OP nor I is claiming this. So obviously I'm not gonna give evidence for a claim I didn't make in the first place. You just ignored every point I just made and gave the same straw man.
To say the post has no basis in facts is to deny the validity of OP's experiences. How can you do that? You haven't seen what experiences he or I have had with female services.
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