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Being ugly : My Experience

FalloutFan-2

February 3, 2019
13 upvotes
/r/MGTOW

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Title Being ugly : My Experience
Author

FalloutFan-2

Upvotes 13
Comments 19
Date February 3, 2019 7:35 PM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/amt1rh/being_ugly_my_experience/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/being-ugly-my-experience.398875
https://theredarchive.com/post/398875
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Comments

[–]Sol_Install11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're getting up there in age man. I can see why you got treated badly. Fact is the world is more cruel to less attractive people. But you look too timid. To survive in a world that treats unfairly, you gotta be strong. Start learning how to fight. You're going to need it. Start working out. No, you don't need to bench 300 lbs. but you need to have the strength to defend yourself. Plan for your future regarding financial success. No vices at all. Find hobbies you enjoy.

The good thing about seeing the ugly side of humanity is that is can set you straight. You got burned but you should be wiser now. Because of your lanky and timid appearance working out is a must. You will continue to be a target as long as you look that way.

[–]meerita4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exact. If you look weak, others from your species will treat you badly.

[–]Csedilla5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

The transparency in that video is a hell of a thing.

All things in due time, society's expectations shouldn't be what makes or breaks you. Fuck them.

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Edit: Fixed for author of video. Thanks for sharing the video FalloutFan-2.

[–]FalloutFan-2[S] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not me

[–]Csedilla2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Roger that, thanks for clarifying

[–]Disbursed-operant2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So I showed this guys image to my crew at work. 9 women total and one guy.

I asked for an immediate rating of attractiveness on a scale of 1-10.

The average rating was 4.

When I asked about what could be improved, the consensus was they were largely esthetic. Gym. Some style. Those were the big ones.

I asked them to imagine what his number would be and while he didnt reach a 10, he did get to an average of a 6. Which is reasonably attractive for a fella.

However, when I mention peronality, they said if his personality is good, that they wouldn't have a problem chatting him up. But if he was mopey, his attractiveness average dropped to a 2.

The main takeaway is that the problems he perceives, while some are legitimate, most are fixable. And I maintain that if he takes the focus from how awful his conditions are, and shifts to one of self improvement, that that will raise his level of confidence and thus he should find himself successful in short order.

It's like inglorious bastards: "you know how you get to Carnegie hall dont ya? Practice"

[–]FalloutFan-2[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

waht work you in

[–]Disbursed-operant0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just another government worker in medical care field.

[–]Disbursed-operant1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

"Look at how unconfident I am"

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

confidence wont make him any more attractive, it will just make people think he's got a Napoleon complex...

might help him give less of a fuck but that wont change how the world sees him by default.

[–]Disbursed-operant-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, it will. Confidence is something that you exude when you are doing well at something. And if that something happens to be taking care of yourself, you're doing just fine.

[–]Sir_manalot4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Confidence is bullshit.

As in order to become confident at something, you need to have success and experience.

Ex: A sexy Chad gets all the sex he wants and easily, so he oozes confidence with women. While an incel is unconfident because he has no experience or success after countless attempts at trying to bed a women.

So in order for an incel to become confident, women have to sleep with him first to give him success and experience..and they will only do that if they find him sexy (if he stops being ugly).

He could stop giving a fuck and get confidence that way, but then he would be seen as a creeper (as society will want to push him back down to where they want him).

The only thing he can do is stop caring about what the world thinks and stop playing the game, which is hard for inexperienced men as they think sex is worth far more then it really is.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

^ thats all there is to it, I dont know why people like to complicate reality.

[–]Sir_manalot2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Because of ego.

A man doesn't want to admit that he is attractive mostly out of luck, so he attributes it to him just working hard, being the better man, etc.

For if he admitted it was because of luck, it would mean that he isn't actually better then other men. He was just born with a higher chance of success.

It is the same reason a man born into wealth acts like he is rich because he worked hard, to feel better then other people. As men are built to hamster themselves as better in order to get them to push harder and fuck over other men for the sake of pussy.

Otherwise men wouldn't play the stupid mating gaming and share pussy, which would be bad for natural selection, good for the society of men though.

Women on the other hand, they just want incels to keep chasing women to farm them for attention and resources when needed. So they just give incels and betas bullshit advice.

[–]Disbursed-operant0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

  1. Incels are a sad lot because they're problem is entirely theirs. Nobody likes a mopey creeper with bad hygiene and inferiority complex.

  2. Your entire point is ass-backwards bro.

Confidence is a pathway to success, not a product of it. You become confident in ANYTHING by putting effort into it. Playing guitar? Practice practice practice. Every day. Jimi Hendrix was not always Jimi Hendrix, guitar god. He started from 0 skills just like everyone else. And he practiced until he was good. Practice made him confident that he would succeed.

The problem with people who have incel logic is they're so hung up on their deficiencies that they refuse to believe they can change them. And they blame women, from whom they crave acceptance most of all, since they cant accept themselves. Of course, they see sex as acceptance, and since they cant get that, they project their anger and frustrations back on to the women they objectify.

It is truly pathetic to watch.

If they would shower, hit the gym, see a stylist, and get good at an interesting hobby and/or career, they have no problem snagging a lady. If sex was all they were after they could hire a hooker. But it's not about sex, is it?

Just because a man wants to have sex with a woman, if he presents himself as a slovenly, unhygienic, socially awkward weirdo, then hes not going to be accepted and wont get that pussy hes craving so badly.

Incels who say they are going mgtow are full of shit. It's more like there just becoming voluntarily celibate or whatever that other acronym is for incels who just accept they wont ecer get laid. And they get what they deserve because they're always looking down on themselves, and they're always angry at women and the world for not rewarding them for "who they are" as though merely existence of a man demands acceptance by a female.

Chad gets laid because he hits the gym, plays a sport. Has a skill of some sort. Has some style that complements his looks. Hes confident in himself, not that he'll be having sex with whomever he likes. I guarantee you Chad strikes out all the time, he just doesnt give a fuck when he loses out.

Mgtow is a specific philosophy. It looks inwards, not outward. It focuses on self improvement and bettering oneself by using the money that would otherwise be spent on women.

And that sure isnt a place for an incel.

OP in the video would be doing just fine in life if he put the same amount of work into bitching about how bad he looks and worked on building himself up.

[–]Sir_manalot5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Nah, that is all bullshit and you know it.

If incels could work hard to get a girl, they wouldn't be incels.

As humans are animals and only fool will believe that everyone can become a Chad with enough work. In matter of fact, most people cannot even reach Chad levels. For only 20% of the male population can be attractive to women and only a segment of them can reach Chad's level due to women being hypergamous.

To deny this fact is to deny reality and is the equivalent of saying everyone can be rich with enough effort (which is impossible because capitalism is built on people losing to pay for the winners).

This doesn't mean effort is meaningless ofc. With enough effort, I am sure most incels could raise there smv one or two points, but that is meaningless when they need to improve themselves by 5 to 7 points to get into attractive range.

And I bet some incels could hit the top 20% as they do not realize their own worth, but most do and they wallow for that reason.

Also, confidence is a byproduct of success...which is why women find confident men attractive in the first place (because it is a good indicator that the man is successful and thus valuable). And why pua/trp always recommend for inexperienced men to go for the easy targets first (married women, post wallers, even seen some recommend prostituties, etc) to build confidence and to avoid dry spells (because you lose confidence and becomeore desperate with dry spells).

Telling someone to just be confident is the equivalent of telling someone that the key to getting a women is just being yourself.

[–]Disbursed-operant-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I dont think it is bullshit at all.

I am saying that as long as they portray themselves with a "poor me" attitude theyll be unsuccessful at, well, pretty much whatever.

I'm not saying they can become Chad. What's creepy about them is they are so focused on getting laid that when they try to "be confident" it rings as false because theres nothing backing it up.

Anyways, I suppose we wont agree on the plight of the poor incel crowd. So I'll agree to disagree with you, and leave those sad specimens to wallow where they choose to be. Go your own way in peace.

[–]Sir_manalot1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps I should put it this way, you are right and wrong.

While they shouldn't just wallow in self pity. They will be labeled as creepy and hated even more if they try to be confident and pick themselves up.

They are basically in a damn if you do or don't situation.

What incels can do is just ignore the world and forget what it thinks (stop playing the game and go mgtow). Perhaps see a prostitute or two if there body is fighting against them from fully swallowing the red pill (to satiate the bodies obsession with breeding) and then stop giving a fuck.

[–]iseehot1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is what happens when we let other people define us.

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