Conservative MGTOWs

WaywardStag · 2019-11-22T11:58:45+00:00

Female nature doesn't give a shit about politics. Women are openly riding the CC now, but women weren't different in the past, they were just forced to be more sneaky with their hypergamy. The CC harms women much more than it harms men.

Identifying as a MGTOW has more to do with understanding than politics. If the legal system was less female-centric I'm sure some of us would be more willing to have committed relationships, but most of us avoid them because we recognise female nature and see that the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

Diogeneplz1 · 2019-11-22T12:14:31+00:00

Western "conservative" culture is liberal. Conservatism isn't actually a philosophy or ideology in of itself. Conservatism just exists relative to something else. The Founding Father's were liberals. It's only in this whackadoodle land that conservative/liberalism is masqueraded as some backward ideology. In modern society, the "liberals" are socialists and communists who continually virtue signal for power, influence, and wealth. I don't know how anyone MGTOW or truly red pilled couldn't be "conservative" in this sociopolitical climate, let alone how they could consider themselves "liberal" in the modern colloquial sense seeing as that is what created the circumstances that drove us here in the first place. I'm not conservative in the tradcon sense, seeing as tradcons are still too "liberal" and don't create or advocate the incentives that would make marriage worthwhile for a man. True "conservatism" would vie for removing of women's rights, women from the workforce, slut shaming, divorce shaming, fag shaming, etc.

DangZagnut · 2019-11-22T12:10:19+00:00

It’s technically liberal, I believe, as not getting married is the change from the current norm. It’s non-traditional of society at large. That has nothing to do with politically liberal with a bunch of other beliefs.

Sandman10372 · 2019-11-22T12:49:41+00:00

I'd guess most are closer to Libertarian. I see some tradcon posts from time to time about abortion shit. They get down voted pretty quickly.

Ultimately it doesn't matter because Family Courts don't ask for political affiliations before pounding a man in the ass.

bosslife242 · 2019-11-22T12:56:09+00:00

I'm personally a conservative but I think MGTOW is a more liberatirian concept... by the way, most feminists are liberal so, there's that.

DWShimoda · 2019-11-22T13:12:35+00:00

Your views of what constitutes "liberal" and "conservative" ideologies...

...well, lets just say that it needs one helluva lot of work.

nhendren23 · 2019-11-22T14:38:50+00:00

I think you're comparing apples to oranges.

I'd consider myself a conservative with libertarian leanings who was raised in a TradCon household. For me, I saw growing up how it can work effectively for raising competent children.

My political leanings haven't changed much, but my approach to life has. Nothing about a conservative political view really forces you to do the tradcon approach to life, but I just think a lot of us understand the value in the approach when both parties are committed to it. The problems I see is there are fewer and fewer woman interested in it, plus the other reasons we are all familiar with, so it's not really an option these days.

Take from that what you will.

p3p3_sylvia · 2019-11-22T13:03:39+00:00

I see it as liberal in practice because we are not conforming to societal expectations to settle down and provide for a family and all that but conservative in nature because this is our response to liberalism and feminism destroying the unspoken social contract between men and women and dismantling the nuclear family. All that being said I think it’s mostly conservative because it is a direct response or consequence to this liberalism/feminism. Men wouldn’t be going their own way if modern women weren’t awful and society didn’t enable their awful behavior. I don’t think MGTOW is the male equivalent of feminism because they are not reacting to anything, they are rather creating a problem out of thin air and embracing victimhood.

MethaCat · 2019-11-22T13:31:47+00:00

Is identifying with this movement the natural progression of conservatism due to feminism "liberating women" to ride the carousel or is this men's version of liberal feminism?

Neither of those imho. Taking route one takes you straight back to the plantation and divorce rape, taking route two, takes you to being a men's right activist.

You don't really need to identify with this movement, you just go your own way, it's that simple.

1-800-CALL-MGTOW · 2019-11-22T14:52:26+00:00

Mgtow is not liberal in the new sense of the term. Liberals aren't even liberals anymore they're insane communist pieces of shit. I suspect most mgtow are libertarian, ancap, moderates, independents, etc. We are individualists and don't align with either party because both are cucked for different reasons. Liberals cause feminism, conservatives cause traditionalism

TheAdmiralYiSunShin · 2019-11-22T15:48:46+00:00

While technically our movement's stances are more towards the "liberal" end of the spectrum, you'll find that there aren't a shitload of conservatives OR liberals awakened to this shit. Each side has their own way they keep MGTOW-types down and although its 2 different flavors, both flavors are "bullshit".

Liberals like to use the SJW way of publicly making a scene with regard to your political views and trying to make you look bad because of your beliefs. They contain a lot more of the "new age thinking" types which equates to non-factual retards that are willing to buy into "gender pay gap" BS and other lies because in their weak beta lives, they think it will somehow translate into sexual acts of appreciation later.

Conservatives like to use tradcon BS to push us into servitude. On one side, they almost would sound sensible with the willingness to accept men and women differences, but then they push the fuck out of white knighting and giving in to whatever stupid shit she does. They'll almost act like you can be a man but as soon as you do, you're "attacking some daddy's little girl" and you'll see they, too, are all about catering to females no matter how terrible they're being. They'll even act like we're supposed to just take their shit and get beat up and we're not allowed to hit or retaliate because its not "gentleman-like".

I dunno if you'll find either style better or worse as quite frankly I hate both flavors with a passion. Neither one is right and neither one will ever address the real issues we MGTOW take up against neo-feminist shit. Until there's a political group that sticks to facts, I consider myself politically homeless in this day and age.

Title	Conservative MGTOWs
Author	og_snake
Upvotes	5
Comments	11
Date	November 22, 2019 11:40 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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