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Red Pill worships pussy. MGTOW put themselves first and do not commit to women in any capacity.
[–]Folwart9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And remember, you are what you consume mentally, physically, spiritually and emotionally.
[–]Sol_Install12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Stardusk/Thinking Ape posed the question to CS MGTOW.
Simply put to MGTOW, "The juice isn't worth the squeeze." Meaning women are not worth the risk and effort for any reward it may bring.
TheRedPill thinks the juice is worth the squeeze. If a MGTOW becomes more confident, financially successful, gets in the best shape of his life, the only focus in which he does it for is HIMSELF. TheRedPill can do the same thing but with the focus being divided between himself and women. Without women, TheRedPill basically becomes worthless.
[–]Inverse_Mirror1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
@OP, I'd say this post and JonathanStrange1's have the best outline.
[–]JonathanStrange1 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Functionally speaking, RP men still engage in relationships, dating, even marriage with women, whereas MGTOW has come to the realization that the "juice isn't worth the squeeze" and have decided to not play the game, some MGTOW still engage in FWB, ONS but all agree that marriage is a raw deal for men.
[–]zik90006 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Redpill is an expression from the movie Matrix, and it means seeing the truth. No more no less. What is the truth and what to do is another discussion.
Since for most men sex is important, most of the discussions on Redpill are about the true nature of men and woman, their true psychology and so on. The practical approach to women using this new acquired truth is called Game.
MGTOW is another approach descending from Redpill, it means Men Going Their Own Way. That is, men deciding alone what's best for them regardless of what society, government, church tell them.
None of this is a new philosophy, they existed since the ancient history.
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Red pill = your life revolves around pussy.
MGTOW = your life revolves around you.
[–]ru-Alex 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, pretty much. I would add that this is not genuine meaning, this is meaning applied by theredpill sub.
[–]SamCasey982 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
MGTOW and RP both believe the female relationship manipulation does not work. MGTOW tend to believe that the solution is for men to develop without participating in female relationship manipulation. RP tend to believe the solution is redefining the female relationship manipulation. There is a ton of overlap. These is a ton of disagreement. Men tend to be pretty fluid moving from one idea to another back and forth. Giving up the idea that the female relationship manipulation will always fail for an individual is extremely tough thing.
It is possible to be female and a RP. The same is not true for a MGTOW.
Neither have uniforms or an initiation oath. You do not need to pick one and stick with it. Although, from my experience personal peace is not achievable unless you fully embrace MGTOW.
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[–]Smitty6 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
TRP is the truth about female nature. As far as TRP Reddit goes this is about using that truth to improve your chances with women. It's sexual strategy. It involves the PUA tactics that actually get women attracted to you.
Mgtow says I don't care about any of that and will spend my time and energy for myself. If a women comes along and wants to fuck, maybe. But it's not going beyond that. A mgtow fully understands the risk involved with women and the gynocentric society, so they choose not to get involved in it. As others have said "the juice is not worth the squeeze."
[–]Zombocom19111 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Redpill = tryhard for Chad's discarded scraps
MGTOW = why bother?
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[–]Zombocom19110 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
there are no rules for MGTOW to follow, MGTOW is about knowing about female manipulative nature and gynocentric brainwashing and then doing whatever you want in life.
It's a good approach not to label yourself and just do whatever you want.
As long as you are sure that you're aware of pros and cons and can make a good decision.
[–]enlightenedmgtow 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Think of redpill as blending PUA and MGTOW. You get the understanding of women and the seduction of PUA in 1. I don't really agree with that view but eh, everyone has different schools of thought
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Redpill: MGTOW is just a bunch of betas, we are the true kings by wasting time and money into one night stands
MGTOW: unplug
[–]MrShadow1230 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Know and love thyself
[–]Turkick0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
TRP consists of MGTOW, MRA and PUA. TRP is seeing the truth. MGTOW means ignoring women. MRA means fighting against women. PUA means tricking women.
That's how I know.
[–]GetaPoas0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wish it was like that. We could all aid one another via yugioh strategy lol
Maybe that's my issue with TRP. I assume they're still "competitive" toward other men and will whiteknight for women, apologize for their bad behaivor, etc.
I don't mind a pua tricking a woman into regret sex and her crying in the shower.
Just like I'd trick a woman into putting a downpayment on a car she can't afford and spending out the ass for five years. Pua should be dick marketing. But it in practice it's apologies for hypergamy
[–]ru-Alex 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
THere could be more than one definition to any word, so first you need to differentiate:
There is Red pill as metaphor, that was taken from the Matrix movie and just meant knowledge. And had nothing to do with action, or how a person should act.
There is theredpill subreddit, which maybe some time ago were focused on knowledge, but not anymore. Now, from their perspective, you should also, in addition to being aware, act a certain way to be considered red pill, and the way you should act is old PUA way.
In its original meaning both, MGTOW and PUA could be redpill, or aware of true reality.
EDIT: Red pill as metaphor could be applied to many things, it could be politics, god and religion. It could be considered buzzword.
[–]siege3420 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Both feel with the understand of how women really are. The difference is what each does with that information Red pill: use it to more successfully peruse pussy MGTOW: Ignore women and pursue litterally anything else you want.
Redpill thinks they can just lift and front their way past everything. Even in dragonball z that isn't true
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Red Pill worships pussy. MGTOW put themselves first and do not commit to women in any capacity.
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Red pill = your life revolves around pussy.
MGTOW = your life revolves around you.
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