Emptiness

chadchaddingtonIV · 2018-01-07T19:36:53+00:00

Revenge, mostly. The system, feminists and the establishment took my youth and future, so I'm gonna turn my success and everything I do into one huge middle finger to them.

I can't live the life I really wanted because of these people, so now I live to pay them back tenfold and have the most amount of fun possible along the way.

I suspect there will be an entire generation of young men who feel like this.

PantsInBed · 2018-01-07T19:15:44+00:00

Yes, I've felt it. It's part of the process of detaching yourself from the lie you've been sold your entire life. Your whole brain is wired upon that idea, so it takes time to rewire it and find new meaning in life.

Work, money/investing, workouts, hobbies, friends, learning new things, sex etc can all give you happiness. For example, the pleasure of making a good deal, run faster than you did last time, and so on. Being a MGTOW is about not putting yourself at a huge disadvantage by letting a woman control you legally, financially and emotionally, so there should be ample room for the pursuit of happiness.

maelggo · 2018-01-07T19:31:24+00:00

You mean you were doing it all for women before ? ;) Then it's good that you stopped.

Now to the serious stuff, because it's a really good question. I'll tell you one big secret, that's not really a secret for many people here. Our (western) society is getting fucked up. There is nothing you can do about it. Having children in the 21st century is the worst idea you could have. In a few generations we'll be so fucked up we won't even know how we got there. That's called decadence. And you know what to do when we are in a decadent society ? We go out in style.

You realize now that you have nothing to prove to anyone, and certainly not to women. You can probably lower down your standard of living to the bare minimum to function decently in a society (keep a job, some friends, etc...). No need for a fancy car, a high end tv to "netflix and chill", a watch and an expansive suit to impress coworkers. Just decent clothes, a warm place to live, and good, healthy food is plenty.

So what is there to pursue ? What to do with all this money and time ? Is there really nothing you can think of ?

You can pickup a hobby or two, and just enjoy it for what it is. You can study anything. You can read all you want. It is up to you really. You can meditate, and make sure you have a healthy sleep schedule, so you can enjoy whatever there is you chose. You can prepare for your dream job or go live your dream lifestyle if you want. As long as you're secure financially, possibilities are limitless.

I personnally quit 2 shitty jobs already, they were well paid but I was sick of being treated like shit at those. My next job, I will insist on having an extra day of free time to sleep more, exercise, and chill. If that's enough to re-energize myself (I'm pretty burnt out at the moment), I'll probably pick one of the few side projects I have on my mind and start working on them. Other than that, I like to medidate, go for walks, read, or listen to music. Simple stuff.

FlairinMcLaren · 2018-01-07T22:03:55+00:00

It'll pass, once you get over Nihilism you'll go into Exstentialism, then Absurdism.

The best way to bring meaning into your life first is to have extensive knowledge, study into philosophy and look within yourself for motivation and enlightenment.

The best thing that we as men have that women don't is self awareness and introspection, so use it man.

Major_Motoko · 2018-01-07T20:21:48+00:00

Yeah it takes awhile to shake that. Slowly the "bad" days will get further and further apart. And the weight will subside.

Almost born again as stupid as that sounds once it all clicks. Make projects for yourself and try and get lost in something. Its incredibly easy to get in a negative mindset while viewing the world, be the light in the areas you can.

0x123d · 2018-01-07T21:07:38+00:00

Just to have a place to sleep and eat

Pretty much. What keeps me going? Mainly the realization that the universe is a dynamical system that might exhibit Poincare recurrence. The implication is that this timeline (or a similar one) may repeat indefinitely, big bang to big crunch, ad infinitum. Even if Poincare doesn't apply to the universe, any scenario that does not involve a permanent heat death may result in a configuration in which you become conscious again in some form (the probability is nonzero, evidently, because you are conscious right now).

andreas-mgtow · 2018-01-07T23:57:28+00:00

What a miserable life, Artie. That empty silence around you (with no one shit testing you or henpecking you). All those empty hours (no honey-do list, shopping trips for useless shit, "entertaining" HER friends, who also hate you). That terrible emptiness during dinner, while you have a steak and a lager (without some bitch screaming drama around you or shaming you to go vegan). Those long hours of leisure all to yourself (without some she-monster sapping the life out of you because you left the toilet seat up or planning every fucking second of your life for those pair bonding romantic vacations YOU'll be paying for and doing all the work to keep cupcake happy).

How do We even get out of bed in the morning!

Artie, just embrace the void already, get over the grieving stage. Start your life.

theWillpowerEngine · 2018-01-07T19:33:01+00:00

The trouble folks have with this sort of existential/nihilistic angst is that they don't acknowledge themselves. You can never be empty, because you're full of yourself; if you're not then you have some self-esteem and self-image problems and require some introspection. If you can really enjoy yourself, your own company and find a philosophy that allows you to maximize your personal pleasure, you are never lonely.

Why work or pursue anything? Why not? You have a tiny, insignificant few decades of light amidst the infinite darkness that bookends your consciousness. What would be the point of not trying things and pursuing things during that time? Just because god doesn't exist, women are just primates like us and most of what you have been told are lies designed to make life easier for old people doesn't mean that experience itself isn't worth anything. Why do you need some external authority to provide meaning and worth to your life?

The contempt you express for merely "having a place to sleep and eat" is myopic on your part. Do you know how many other humans (to say nothing of other animals) would kill, sacrifice and suffer to have a safe, comfortable place to sleep full of entertainments and a variety of safe, awesome food to eat? While westerners whine that no one will tell them what lies at the top of Maslow's triangle for them, most people would (rightfully) be delighted just to live in a place with electricity, clean water and the choice between Taco Bell, pizza and Applebees nearby.

What is it that's missing in your view of the world that makes you want to not exist? Why do you need anything external to justify your existence? Even if every other thing on earth wanted me to cease existing, or was ignorant of my existence, I would still want to exist, I would still enjoy the mechanics of it, the struggle against entropy and other living souls. A daydream while sitting in traffic, a few moments reading a book, a delicious meal, a good conversation with a friend, the sight of a valley stretching out after a long hike, the smell of spring rain, that feeling when you take a piss that you've been holding in for a long time, orgasms, successfully running longer than I had before, making money without having to work very hard, watching a scene in a movie that resonates with me emotionally. There are ten million different reasons to exist, and absolutely none not to. Nonexistence will come for you soon enough, no reason to rush it.

MobTilliDie · 2018-01-07T20:33:34+00:00

Take the bitter with the sweet, and create some purpose for your life. My works are my children that will speak for me when am gone, so i tend to them with patience and focus. Life man, Life.

Freefrombitches123 · 2018-01-07T22:26:30+00:00

I know this feeling but my advice is to ride it out, random things happen which you really don't expect. For excample mgtow, the promise of sex robots etc

Fennel_17 · 2018-01-07T23:16:03+00:00

Be like Jack Reacher.

Shangbye · 2018-01-08T12:54:44+00:00

Yep. Life really got bleak after taking the red pill.

jay2max · 2018-01-08T12:58:06+00:00

I have an answer for anyone that ever has this question:

Humans will always desire, this is a fact. unless you are dead

whatever you desire becomes your goal. you (get out of bed and) use your preferred method to get to that goal.

its that simple. the goal could be to have shelter and/or food - unless you kill yourself, you desire this. so simply put..this is why you get out of bed in the morning

CorpulentLeprechaun · 2018-01-09T21:45:26+00:00

OP if you read this, do not give up hope. I didn't know what mgtow stood for till 3 weeks ago. I felt alone too. I know how you feel.

I rp some years ago n know how you feel. I invested my time i n myself. I read more now, amd try to help other mgtow.

Trust me that this too shall pass. It'll pass quicker the more you invest in what interests YOU.

I hope you persevere. Do not feel alone. We are here.

Title	Emptiness
Author	Artie_L
Upvotes	42
Comments	36
Date	January 7, 2018 7:01 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/7osikn/emptiness/
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