Guys I need your help

Aprilia_rs125 · 2020-09-19T21:21:50+00:00

Couples seem happy because all they care about is image. When they are at home, they are nothing like that

prinseofpersia · 2020-09-19T20:02:19+00:00

MGTOW can contribute heavily towards fortune and happiness, but MGTOW alone will not lead to either of those.

You need to find a purpose or at least find activities that you enjoy in life. It can be playing sports, fishing, video games or even movies/TV. Make goals for yourself and break them down into small tasks and work on them daily.

Also from your username it appears you might be an alcoholic. If so, I would seek counselling from medical professionals to battle it before you focus on anything else in your life. Find your local detox and rehab centers for it.

I hope some of this helps you. Life is struggle, but we as men must fight to overcome it. All the best to you brother

2020-09-19T21:28:11+00:00

do NOT commit suicide.

EVERYTHING is temporary.

Both happiness and emptiness - temporary. Life is ridiculously beautiful.

Ever stand on the edge of a beach at midnight right before a storm? Helps one realize just how insignificant one is and how amazing mother nature is.

Ever watch a sunrise is France? GORGEOUS!

My favorite: watching our little guys (football, baseball, basketball) play sports. They're awesome to watch!!! {be careful, gents....going too often can get you labeled as a weirdo....get to know people before going}.

Ever walk the streets of a big city just to "people watch"? Kinda fun.

There are MILLIONS of things to do with or without a female. Life is just too beautiful to end before your time.

I wish you good fortune.

2020-09-19T23:49:52+00:00

There's a quote by Bill Burr that I often think of when I think of women.

“Realize that sleeping on a futon when you're 30 is not the worst thing. You know what's worse, sleeping in a king bed next to a wife you're not really in love with but for some reason you married, and you got a couple kids, and you got a job you hate. You'll be laying there fantasizing about sleeping on a futon. There's no risk when you go after a dream. There's a tremendous amount to risk to playing it safe.”

Choose wisely

someevilwhitemen · 2020-09-19T21:02:52+00:00

this is the steps of grief , its normal when you are not hook up by the bs around you and start really looking at it , you can feel really depressed at some point

just telling you the world is not about you, he wants you no good or bad

accept reality , make peace with it, and find your own path of peace and contentment

its a long process more for some than other , but never forget outside all the degeneracy there is a beautiful world ,beautiful nature outhere, not just people going insane

mother nature is in our genes, go hiking take a break from all of it and just breath , you will see there is some much more for you

build something with your hands , accomplish something that matters to you, start with easy stuff

earn your own self respect , your feeling of being alive

we have been sold our entire life as men we are here to serve women and the state, and when you dont have this goal anymore you need to start from the start , its complicated nothing good comes easy, but you can do it you have it in you, it just takes time

for a start , if you dont have it yet find a job and a place to live in your own so you can take the time to think about it with a clear mind

happiness is just feelings its not real what you need to look for is peace and contentment

silly_birb · 2020-09-19T22:53:15+00:00

Sex is biologically a great motivator for men, so it's normal seeing the world grey when you cut it out.

But sex and relationships are cocaine for the brain, you just need to replace that excitement on something else inside of you. It may be an hobby or even your new career/job.

Right now you are living the drawback of abstinece from female validation.

You_Have_HIV · 2020-09-20T01:22:51+00:00

How old are you? I'm asking because it took me until my early-mid 30s to be alright with being by myself.

anonymous578033 · 2020-09-19T20:01:34+00:00

Seems from your post that you are a young guy and possibly never had any relationship. It is often said that it is important in your20s to get action as feelings such as these are common for those who went MGTOW and are always wondering if being in a relationship is better. I suggest save some money up and fucking travel. You will be surprised what adventures are to be had when you step outside your shoe box. For me having escaped a hellish relationship as well as a single father, I am grateful for MGTOW and find it brings peace for someone who has run the gambit. However, for you who has never experienced it, MGTOW feels like involuntary incelibacy.

danielgalundrux · 2020-09-19T23:56:04+00:00

Some part of you still feel/think that a relationship can make you happy, hence why you're focusing on the couples being happy. This is deeply ingrained belief in our society and hard to totally extinguish. There is a biological component to this, everything in our society is based around the drive to breed, gain biological immortality. It's not you conscious self doing this, it's your DNA as that's the only thing that will actually survive from doing this.

What can help is to understand the truth about love and how it has been corrupted. Love as it's perceived by most people is the drive to breed, and this is experienced differently by men and women. The corruption of love is that it has become confused in men with loyalty and honor, likely deliberately.

Honor was the glue that held society together for thousands of years, it was the brotherhood of men standing against the terrors of nature. You served the group, your tribe or civilization, and you gained honor, you harmed the group and it was taken away. With honor came rewards, one of these rewards where women, the higher your honor was the higher class of woman you could get. Women didn't like this system though so they subverted it by making honor and loyalty something you should give to them in return for "love", or the right to breed, instead of to your group.

Love to women is fear based, it's about security, taming a beast to serve and protect them from the terrors of nature, it's the reason all of civilization was built. What men might experience as a woman's affection is their fear, their attempt to tame you and put you in their service. Something which is now happening on a much larger scale, making all of society serve them.

What's happening to you is depression because now that you've let go of your biological drive to breed, at least intellectually, non of civilization has any purpose anymore. That's why everything seems grey and you're contemplating suicide.

So you're going to have to change how you function from the ground up, learn that love is not about women, it's about you. Contrary to the modern myth, women, or other people in general, can not give you love, only you can give you love. It has always been a feeling that came from you, inside you, even though it might have been activated by other people, it always came from you. You are capable of feeling this not only for yourself but for all of reality, and that is what gives the world color.

You don't have to dislike relationships or anything to be MGTOW. Buddhist monks did MGTOW way before it was popular and they famously love all things. I know it's a hard road, by you can cultivate this love within yourself and find great satisfaction in everything in life. One of the reasons I'm MGTOW is because I believe it's not about hating relationships but about loving yourself. If you one day find that having a family is what you really want you can do that, there is no law that says you can't, and there is nothing in this universe that is permanent, not even ideology. So instead of thinking of this as some religion you have to belong to for the rest of your life, think of it as time to yourself when you're healing from past wounds in the good company of your brothers. Learning to love yourself without the help of others, learning to be self sufficient. Once you do this you'll no longer need to chase women because what they offer is no longer the source of your happiness, your source of happiness will become you. And then if you want to have a family after all you'll be well equipped, because nobody will have anything they can take away from you, and only then can you be equal to whoever you might chose as a partner if you so desire.

If any of this is interesting to you feel free to message me even though I might take a while to reply as I'm not here that much. Good luck.

studymore · 2020-09-20T02:53:48+00:00

Thank you for being honest with your feelings instead of bottling it up like most men

HipsterSamuraiJack · 2020-09-19T22:48:20+00:00

Stop watching porn, to start.

Alkehol-drinker12 · 2020-09-20T22:36:17+00:00

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Chakra_Devourer · 2020-09-20T23:41:43+00:00

Finding your own purpose is a task and a burden that you must take on your own as a man. People can give out suggestions and talk about things they find fulfilling. You have to find your own purpose. No one can tell you that. One thing is for certain, if you place your happiness and well being on a vagina, you would most likely come to regret it.

Do you like video games? Music? Working out? Writing/Reading? Investing?

I think investing is a kind of game.

2020-09-19T20:19:00+00:00

1) It is true that when you hadn't had any relationship as a man you can think you're missing a whole lot, especially when seeing "so many happy couples" on social media, in movies etc.

2) MGTOW doesn;t necessarily advocate strict celibacy, You can have relationships, just to see how they work, MGTOW just warns you for possible problems that can arise if you are naive and think that women are "sugar ans spice and everything nice". That is all.

I assume there are men out there who feel good simping or sacrificing for females...well if that feels good for them and so they feel they accomplish something in life, who are us mgtows to tell them they are simps or they are not valuing themselves enough?

So to be short: you can date , you can have relationships, you just have to be very realistic and not expect too much from women and be warned they can manipulate and hurt you.

3) I think These strange feelings you talk about are caused by lack of hobbies, interests, and maybe getting bored because of too much free time. The solutoon is to keep yourself busy either by working or finding hobbies. Like some other person said above, i would suggest TRAVELLING. It is a very good hobby , it helped me tremendously after the most difficult times in my life. Like, i was terribly depressed and stayed in bed all day and did not leave the house for 4-5 days and after 2 weeks of travelling i was a new person, depression lifted, i had zest for life and motivation.

You are right, the usual daily life ius boring as shit, you wake upo and see the walls of your house, get out and see the same surroundings and streets you already know etc... boring as fuck no wonder you start asking "what is the point of this dull life". That's why you need to find hobbies and activities to do, mnot necessarilt invloving women.

You think about women and relationship only because you get bored anmd think that being with a girl would somehow make your life more exciting, especially when you see couples kissing etc. I am almost sure that, if you were very very busy and having stuff to do all day long, you would forget about girls and relationship and not think that you're missing something.

good luck!

Alkehol-drinker12 · 2020-09-20T01:23:39+00:00

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intelligence_skills · 2020-09-20T03:30:42+00:00

You need to find a source to generate Oxytocin by your brain. Things will get better.

Poopdawg87 · 2020-09-20T04:18:00+00:00

Whether you approach life from a religious or logical perspective suicide is never the answer. If you need someone to talk to, please PM me. We can even talk on whatsapp or discord or whatever works for you.

IceyBear988 · 2020-09-20T05:45:06+00:00

You have been programmed to behave and function how you are by society, deep down inside naturally you're not supposed to be simping this hard. It takes a long time to de-programme this behavior, trust us you will make it through. Even seen a drug addict going through withdrawal by doing rehab? It's the same. Knowing this, you are never alone. Some do it fast, some do it even longer but the end of the day you will make it through. Look at it this way, you're the single sperm out of the many that hits the egg, you telling me you're giving up? No fucking way! you're just not able to see your capability yet because you can't see the all the angles. We're spread across the world, going through the same thing, you're one of those people who are awake from the bullshit, just left the door.

Once you do, you're fucking golden. If you fail, stand up again, never give up!

linkinway · 2020-09-20T10:14:42+00:00

You can continue spinning plates. Shouldn't get in way of your MGTOW life.

MysteriousPlantain · 2020-09-20T12:32:33+00:00

The truth will hurt you once but it will set you free.

Title	Guys I need your help
Author	Alkehol-drinker12
Upvotes	38
Comments	32
Date	September 19, 2020 7:42 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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