I'm 17 and I need your help

Fikre_25 · 2018-12-03T17:51:17+00:00

This mindset was established by those around you. Your parents, grandparents, siblings, friends. Society wants you to think you're useless without a woman in your life, when the opposite is true. Men are far more happy and far more productive without women.

Fikre_25 · 2018-12-03T17:53:55+00:00

Look. You are at the age where prom and homecoming are a big deal. The girls will go after you in these times to be sure they have locked down a date for the big event. Basically, it is a bigger deal for them than you. Your desire is driven by social programming and biology. It will get better when you are older. Just be careful and don't get anyone pregnant.

georgesoyros · 2018-12-03T18:08:27+00:00

The girls - if they're interested in you - only are interested because of the things you will provide them, such as status and money. You're just a temporary ride for them. After high school's over, she goes to another guy at college.

Her: "Let's promise each other to stay friends, ok?"

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Two days later she's in bed with another guy.

Get a copy of 'the manipulated man' by Esther Vilar and read it. Trust me on this one, it'll give you a head start it's not even fair. It might talk about 'women', and you might read it as older women, but the content applies to girls your age as well.

Novalis79 · 2018-12-03T18:35:46+00:00

You know? I bet most of the thinking you’re having right now about women is because sex: everybody around you talks bout it, some of the guys you hang about may brag about it, you see sex on the internet, movies, ads, on the short skirts and cleavages of your school girls. I’ll make another bet: you must still be virgin and the idea of sex makes you crazy, drool about it, think about it all the time.

I would say wait till you’re 18 and fuck an escort. Yeah, you no longer will be a virgin and you’ll finally understand what this fucking sex is all about. After realizing that it’s not the holy grail you’ll be having a clearer mind to focus on yourself and embrace MGTOW ideas if that is what you wish to.

All the best!

Fikre_25 · 2018-12-03T18:04:49+00:00

At 17 you have to worry about so many things with this situation. Peer pressure, your parents wanting grandchildren, your schoolmates calling you "gay" or some shit if you don't try with every breath to try and score chicks....

Basically, what do YOU want? Are you going to be the kind of person that has to rely on other's to validate your life and make you happy, or are you going to be the kind of person that can achieve these goals with your own blood/sweat/tears? Time to find out.

MuleFool42 · 2018-12-03T18:58:55+00:00

If the source of your happiness is not within, then you'll always be unhappy, even with a gf. You have to be happy with yourself first, nobody else can make you happy - full stop.

Ask yourself why you couldn't be happy without a gf? Those are the issues that you need to address. People that are the most happy are those that give back to others from a position of strength and wealth. Focus on your own development and success as you go to a vocation or career. Set out to constantly achieve so that you can give back to your community if you so choose. Chasing skirts is a recipe for unhappiness with yourself. But if you achieve success and develop needed skills in society, then you'll realize that the skirts are chasing you. Then, you choose them instead of settling for whomever might choose you.

Reverse the paradigm that you are in, mentally, and use it to change your reality. Women are attracted to success. Stop chasing. Set your goals high and act as if you've already achieved it until you realize it, or act as if achieving your goals is inevitable because of your unfailing resolve. If you do, women/girls in your life today will be attracted to your ambition and they'll try to hitch their wagon to you, and they'll do the chasing, if that's what you end up really wanting.

Andpan11 · 2018-12-03T19:14:53+00:00

This advice is something you can take or not but I would recomend hobbies as they draw you in and will keep your kind off women. The problem being I wouldnt be the best at telling how to find hobbies, you will eventually find one that you can be devoted to.

Fikre_25 · 2018-12-03T21:43:44+00:00

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stardustlikeall · 2018-12-03T18:27:59+00:00

Can you do it? Yes and no, you might, but only if you actively work to better yourself. I'm 23 not that much older than you, and I can tell you that, I did similar things your age. Got frustrated at some point! Attempted suicide when I was like 19. Obviously that didnt work. But it did something, i some how started to get redpilled in life. Literally the day after, I realized only i can make myself Happy! There was this voice in my head that came over (can't explain it). From that point on I was out researching and analyzing things. Also a little bit taboo but I did experimented with psychedelics. They are something! I can tell you that. They give you a whole new view of life. Only if used properly. (However, this is not any form of encouragement to do "drugs"). You have a choice in life. And learning things take time. It's like working out, you won't look like Dwayne Johnson in a day heck not even in 10 years. Man has been doing that for years! But through out the journey, you get to see and appreciate the little detailes. As time passes you'll open your mind. But only if you don't seek approval from others (which includes females). As well as work on yourself with a positive attitude, self affirmations, self validation, and consistency. Even though I was "red pilled" I didn't go monk mode until this summer. Just before that I got into a super depressive mode because of a bitch I dated for a bit. Then eventually found this subreddit too.

Hope this helps

Roland_of_Giliad · 2018-12-03T20:20:26+00:00

The best advice I could give is to continue to question why you need a woman in your life. listen to Tom Leykis on YouTube, and understand women are manipulative regardless if its deliberate or not.

everythangspeachie · 2018-12-03T22:34:15+00:00

Your hormones are running a fucking muck at that age. When i was your age i didnt really want to be in a relationship, but i did always want a cool chick to hang out with. I decided to just fuck around and be an asshole. I gues what changed for me was knowing that women are just as slutty as alot of guys are, and alot of the times even more. I understand where your coming from cuz at that age your still innocent and ignorant to how relationships REALLY are. what the others here are saying is very true. Just focus on yourself and do alot more of what you enjoy doing. You can still dick these bitches down just dont get in a relationship, and wear a condom, ALWAYS. Just you wait, one day you will look back at your mentality as a youngster and laugh.

Plazmatron44 · 2018-12-03T23:07:15+00:00

This reminds of of how there was a time when the idea of being able to go to the shop and buy a huge chocolate bar was amazing yet now that I can I virtually never do, once you've been with enough women and experienced their bullshit you'll grow tired of them and stop caring as much, hell I'm 28 and had a first date ever last year, was dating for a month and I don't think I want to do it ever again it's that shit.

Nano_altacc · 2018-12-04T00:18:52+00:00

I was in your place too, I'm 19, was hospitalized in the psychiatric ward and came to terms with myself. all for a woman. When I got out I was doing fine, until I met with my boys. My friend had the picture of that woman as his background, and it broke me, made me jealous and was back to square one. The thing that sealed the deal was that one day she came over. We had a chance to chat by ourselves few days before her departure and we ended in good terms. When we met, she saw through my facade and knew my deep sadness. I cut my friends out, having time to think and do what I want, I began drawing again, months later of the same thing i found this sub and since then I've been well. I still haven't seen my friends but I'm in contact with all of them except the woman's boyfriend. Someday I'll go back with them to say a few words but after that, I fear I might have done too much damage and be left out. I'm fine with being alone, what raised my spirits was all of the success stories I've read here and now I'm turning this around too. I'm traveling to see her as I've promised her I would and I'm a man of my word. I know it sounds stupid, but I'd rather do this in person so that if red flags arise, I can warn off my old pal. I wouldn't want him broken just because of a bad woman, no matter what I've done in the past.

tramese · 2018-12-04T02:05:03+00:00

meet your neighbours and see how many have divorced. maybe your relative's friends been the same...it's not hard to find evidence in this nuclear landscape. Open your eyes to the truth.

ColdStoryBro · 2018-12-04T02:11:56+00:00

Society wants you do be a utility for social growth. If you don't please women and are not desired by them you are likely not going to produce children or have much community contribution. This is why society pushes you toward worshiping pussy. But you gotta ask yourself: Why should you give a fuck about these people who would otherwise throw you under the bus if it meant they had to sweat an ounce for you?

Atton_Risk · 2018-12-04T04:42:01+00:00

I always think that I MUST have a girlfriend in order to be happy.

If you cannot summon the strength to walk away now. To base your happiness on something much more concrete then the ever changing whims of a woman. Then you are going to pay a price of this, don't build your house a foundation of ice.

Lord_Forge · 2018-12-04T05:55:14+00:00

Before you think about anything, jack off! Your a teenager, your hormones are off the scales. You need clarity of thought, something on your mind besides sex.

Just jack off, do it yourself and think.

tacticalinfernape · 2018-12-04T06:10:08+00:00

sad to hear . i was totally opposite to you in my teens . i focused on my academics and got into a reputed college . women were never at my pedestal .

avtarius · 2018-12-04T07:44:44+00:00

As biological males we are wired to mate, hence we want to find a mate or mates. We actually need to but that's in an ideal world.

As biological males in a society which is basically exploiting this behaviour, the only way is to avoid the exploitation, a.k.a. not playing by their rules.

As biological males in a society which is perpetuating the deviation from Natural Order, and further amplifying already established female dominance, the only way is to not play the game, and eventually the situation corrects itself.

adhadyantos · 2018-12-04T12:00:26+00:00

happy with women? hell no, they're boring and lame as hell. they can't even understand a simple joke.

Cest7 · 2018-12-03T21:54:41+00:00

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Chill-BL · 2018-12-04T11:22:49+00:00

I assume your questions got answered by other capable men here.

So if something isn't answered you like answering you have the option to reply

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Title	I'm 17 and I need your help
Author	Fikre_25
Upvotes	53
Comments	57
Date	December 3, 2018 5:47 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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