I'm having a little breakdown. Help would be appreciated

Gibits · 2019-10-28T20:51:05+00:00

I am reading a lot of SJW programming from your post. You would like to be red pilled but the programming is strong. Here are my observations:

You are not entitled to be happy or successful. This is a lie that is told to kids your age. No one is. If you have not achieved your goals then keep working at it until you do. It’s that simple. You aspire to be an engineer, that is a wide open field and you should be fine.

This girl you mention doesn’t seem to be into you. You should forget about her because she would rather “study” than do anything with you. She’s not even that attractive by your own admission. You say you were happy with her, but you really were just glad you had someone to validate you. You are defined by others, instead of having a strong sense of self. It’s a common thing for millennials, who grew up on social media. Better start reflecting on what you value and if you live up to that ideal.

“I could pay for it but I think I’m better than that”. Who told you paying for sex makes you inferior? I have a spoiler warning: you always pay for it. ALWAYS. Prostitutes are just more honest about it. This proves to me that you are still a blue pilled simp who thinks sex is somehow holy and paying for it cheapens it. If you pay a reasonable price for sex that makes you smart. Dumb guys pay half their salaries and don’t even get pussy out of the deal.

rmullen1282 · 2019-10-28T19:39:40+00:00

Happiness is what you make it to be. Everyone has different needs and tastes. When it comes to a woman I suggest staying away from them until you are ready. If any girl you pursue doesn't put in the same effort as you, keep moving...more than likely you will get burned.

Public transportation is not necessarily a bad thing. If it's cheap and reliable it can be a good thing. Cars are great for freedom but are also headaches that can cost a lot of money.

Know you're worth, focus on you and what's important to you. Everything else falls into place. Good luck!

MuleFool42 · 2019-10-28T20:47:32+00:00

You're just starting out. Best advice, give yourself a break. See what kind of job you get so that you're making money, save a little, which will grant you more options.

Then look for something somewhere else if you need to. You can always sell the investment or rent it out so that you can come back to it if you need to.

As far as dating, just concentrate on your own needs and on improving yourself personally, professionally, physically, mentally, financially, and emotionally. Bottom line, as you make these continuous improvements, you'll be noticed and considered a successful mate. You have to reverse your mindset into looking at women, not as if you're good enough for them, but if they are good enough for you. And treat them that way. The more you show that you have high standards, the more the women you date will strive to meet those standards.

So just change the paradigm as you become more successful.

Czarooo · 2019-10-28T19:39:05+00:00

What do you do for fun? What do you believe metaphysically?

DangZagnut · 2019-10-28T19:41:11+00:00

I'd recommend seeking adventure and find your fortune. Move. This is just a personal opinion, but you never really are an adult while under your parents influence. At some point you have to go off on your own and see the world.

So if I was in your position, I'd do that.

Czarooo · 2019-10-28T20:27:54+00:00

Don't kill yourself; I've been where you are and things will improve IF you take control of your life.

Stick with STEM. Although getting up to speed in a STEM field is like a daily kick to the nuts, the long-term benefits are worth it, especially if you like the field. You'll find a job.

Women are like heroin (never done it because I'm not a retard, but I'm extrapolating from what I've seen.). They'll make you feel great for a little while, but then they'll absolutely destroy your life.

You're in a place where you sound a little depressed, so maybe make sure you don't have an underlying medical condition. Also, focusing on things you can't control, such as government policies, would make anyone sad. Focus on what you can control and make your life better. Marcus Aurelius has some interesting things to say that you might find useful.

itsetuhoinen · 2019-10-28T23:24:07+00:00

Well. Lots to unravel there.

I'll be turning 43 in just about a month. I'm working on my fifth ... "career"(?) now. Started in computers, got sick of it, went to welding school, got back into computers, went to machining school, got back into computers, went to EMT school, got back into computers, got a horrible job, my wife left me, my natural tendency towards depression got exacerbated to the point where I nearly, ah... "self terminated all processes", got some help, went to truck driving school... and I really like driving trucks.

Today is the 4th "anniversary" of the day my divorce was finalized. I've spent the vast majority of it working on a logo for a new business I'm planning to start once I've built my finances back up. (No, it's not what you think. She was a trauma pharmacist working in the emergency department of the local level one trauma center. She made significantly more than I did, and we split the bills "evenly" by salary ratios. I just killed all of my savings being super depressed and unemployed for two years.)

If you're in a serious STEM field, and you're going to be an actual engineer, you're basically never going to have to truly worry about finding a job of some sort. Now, it's certainly possible to outspend your earnings, but if you manage your finances sanely, barring major catastrophe, you should never hurt for work or relative well being. (Your country going communist would count as "major catastrophe", FWIW. ;) ) But I think the Eastern European countries are actually probably better inoculated against that than the more Western ones, at this point, having lived it in recent experience.

But, yeah, you're still in school. You're going to be short on funds right now. That's just sort of part of the game for most college students, at least the ones who don't come from a wealthy background.

A car, a place in the city, this is all stuff that will happen in time. I know, I know, I actually do remember what it was like being young and time seeming to take forever to pass. Heck, just the other week I was commenting to someone how I feel old when I talk about having plans for thing that will happen "in a few years", because these days, that doesn't seem like much time at all.

Three semesters left is a thing you can survive. Being an engineer will bring you the things you say you desire. Being a smart person who can solve problems, and manage his income well is the sort of thing that people whose respect is worth having, will respect. Having a STEM degree will put you in a position to find work that actually accomplishes something, and brings you the income you desire to have a car, and a place that's closer to the city. Though, for what it's worth, once you have a car, you may find you prefer to live outside the city and only visit when you have to. I know I'm thinking about moving to the middle of nowhere. ;)

Women... Enh. I don't know what to tell you there. I'm pretty much just starting to read this community. For my part, I still like girls, mostly. But, I've always been into girls. I circled the pictures of the girls I thought were cute, in my class, in my Kindergarten yearbook. So, take my words there with a grain of salt. But even so... I've been thinking that I'd get a lot more accomplished if I wasn't so interested in them.

Given my particular history, it'd be really hypocritical of me to say that "suicide isn't a solution". It is one. But it's a really final one. I'm not going to lie, I'm naturally of the engineering mindset. I planned every detail of my suicide, down to the list of tasks, to the equipment to purchase, to the notes to write, to the envelopes with cash tips for the various people from different agencies who would be forced to handle the remains. Suicide is, in my own opinion, (and I may well get dogpiled for saying so) a perfectly valid choice. But it should never be a rash choice, made in the moment. Unless you're a believing member of a religion that holds to reincarnation, you'll have the rest of eternity to be dead. I thought about killing myself for years, before I decided to do it, and spent months after I'd decided working out the details, so as not not inconvenience anyone more than the minimum. And I had what I considered pretty good reasons, between various physical and emotional health issues. And, in the end, I kinda lucked out that my plans were interrupted, and after digging deep into more, shall we say, unorthodox treatments, found something that solved the major problem I was having, which was a complete lack of hope that I would ever see any improvement in my life. So while I planned my own death down to the last dot, I still ended up doing it based on wrong information.

Three semesters isn't much. If you're suffering from serious, severe, chronic depression, treatment is available. If it's more of a case of... I don't quite know how to phrase it, "ennui" isn't quite the right term, and neither is "angst", (and holy fuckballs, does English only have stolen words to describe this shit?), but I'm not trying to belittle what you're experiencing, only trying to say... if it's not like, biochemically induced severe depression, it'll get better, and with the path you seem to be on, judging of course from just one post, it'll mostly be getting better all on its own.

"Moving to the West", "staying where you are"... I don't know where you are, exactly, and I haven't spent much time in Europe at all, but I really quite enjoyed the week I spent in Prague. If I didn't have hobbies that aren't really compatible with "being in Europe" (I really like big guns and fast cars. ;) ) I'd seriously think about moving there. But wherever you end up, I think you've got a pretty solid chance at a good life, if you plug away at it.

And as almost a side note... don't knock "paying for it". There's a lot to be said for, well, hiring a professional to do a good job providing the service you're looking for. I expect it's against the general grain of the tide here in this community to say so, but the human animal is designed to spend time in pair bonded relationships, so there probably is something lost from the human experience by not engaging in that, but on the other hand, it can also be a lot easier to have your friends who share your same interests and hobbies on one side, and to get your sexual fulfillment from professionals who you know exactly in advance what they're going to cost you, financially and emotionally.

On the gripping hand, it's also possible that I've been embittered by my experiences. So, as always, take all of this with a large grain of rock salt. ;)

Gosh, I really hope you wanted a giant wall of text in response to your post... :p

throw_7 · 2019-10-29T07:24:27+00:00

I'm tired of commuting everyday for 1-2 hours. I live in a flat bought by my dad with credit so that we have investment instead of paying rent.

Move close to where you work. Preferably East of where you work so that when you drive to work the sun is behind you and when you come back home, the sun is still behind you. The amount of hours that you save every day can be put towards doing the things that you enjoy.

Tbh I'm still a virgin even though I just could pay for it.. But I always thought I'm better than that.

You're still very young, the best years of your life hasn't even started yet.

I want to have a car, not being reliant on busses and trams. I want to be successful. I studied all my life so far to achieve something and people who didn't appear to be happier.

You literally just started working. Probably haven't even been promoted yet. As you're successful in your career, or pursue other opportunities, more money will come your way. Believe in yourself, your skills, and your own capabilities to be successful.

I'm just not having fun with myself.

Map out your goals, map out all the little steps needed to achieve those goals and work towards it. Don't be jealous of people that are more fortunate than you. Those that worked hard to get to where they are in life are always more deserving of respect.

throw_7 · 2019-10-29T07:38:08+00:00

Most men in STEM fields hit their highest sexual market value in their mid 30s. For me, it was late 30s. Smart people tend to make smart financial decisions that leads to great wealth later in life.

I've always been in STEM and I struggled really hard through school, college, and for many years after college mainly for financial reasons. Over the past 20 years my life has transformed so much. I was that guy stuck on the side of the road in a broken down vehicle with everybody else from college driving right past me to get to classes that I was supposed to be attending. I even remember getting a taxi one time and showing up to my college class and surprising people because somebody said they saw me broken down on the side of the road so they weren't expecting me. Very embarrassing.

Nowadays I'm watching in disbelief as my investment portfolio is leading the way to making me a millionaire. I remember the day where my investment income surpassed my salary income, honestly, it really wasn't that long ago.

I can sit on my ass and do nothing, and make more money than what I get paid in salary to show up to work for 40 hours a week. What a crazy world, huh? What a crazy thing to have happen. Sometimes things just don't seem logical. Yet I still work for that salary, because every extra dollar helps and the tax advantages retirement accounts that only accept input from salary, like a 401k, are great things to have whether you become a millionaire someday or not. I live pretty frugally which has always helped. Compounding rate of returns, the more you invest, the more it grows over any unit of time.

Women are expensive but their true costs aren't realized unless you look at the money that you could have made if you invested it in the S&P 500 index over a long period of time. Spend money on women and that money is gone forever. That money will not work to make you more money, it's a long term loss of opportunity.

Czarooo · 2019-10-28T19:44:16+00:00

You've always thought you were better than that and if guns weren't illegal you'd have proved it already. Unfortunately, because guns are illegal, you must admit that you are not better than that. Visit a hooker or date a sugar-baby. In all likelihood your degree will allow you a good career. Date multiple sugar-babies and visit multiple hookers, you'll be able to afford it. Just don't live with them or marry them. What you now think of as depression would seem like ecstatic happiness by comparison.

Dat_Azz_Spanker · 2019-10-28T20:23:28+00:00

First and foremost, please do not hurt yourself. You have a bright future head, don't waste it on temporary depression.

Second, there is no need to be ashamed about being a virgin. Believe it or not you are better off. You just think you want sex now? Once you slide into that hot (hopefully tight) wet hole for the first time then you will know what it feels like to really want sex.

As far as should you go to the west, I don't think you would have much better luck with women here vs there. If you insist that you want women in your life and possible marriage the consensus that I have seen on here is to go to Asia.

You are young and just getting started. I remember what is was like to be 22. I'm rapidly closing in on 50 so I have some miles behind me. Here is a thought I had about your career, is there a possibility to do contract work abroad? Maybe you could try a few different countries to see if you "fit" better somewhere else.

I wish you the best my friend!

BiffBiffBiff27 · 2019-10-28T20:51:25+00:00

Life is tough at early twenties. You're doing better than I was - dead end job, living in a shit noisy crime ridden part of London, no love or sex either, addicted to pot, no degree, fed up of political bullshit and apathy, feeling lost.

You're projecting your happiness outwards on to a girl because internally you have a lot of sexual energy. Torally normal. But you're getting frustrated and blaming yourself. Don't do that. Never do that. You also don't know what this girl is like for sure - projection.

BallinMatt · 2019-10-28T21:09:18+00:00

I agree with most of the comments. Your life is just beginning and such and such. Life is full of opportunities, and they will come your way for sure. I remember being your age and being depressed as well. Focus on your health and career as much as possible.

Ok, I’m assuming that you actually want to fuck that girl you mentioned...

Waiting for that girl to make a move is wrong. After kissing you need to actually make a move if you want something to happen. Women want to feel desired and they want that feeling of loss of control.

Kiss her and pull her clothes off. Don’t be forceful, just be firm and gentle and it will most likely happen for you.

Title	I'm having a little breakdown. Help would be appreciated
Author	Czarooo
Upvotes	5
Comments	29
Date	October 28, 2019 7:34 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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