Is the wall real?

RiverSound · 2018-10-21T07:35:26+00:00

Yes the wall is definitely real. These older women aren't relationship material, they're just practice for younger guys. Guys get horny, these older broads serve a purpose and one purpose only.

These women are fed garbage by the media that they have market value as cougars. But reality sets in when the guys don't come back around for seconds.

eduardkoopman · 2018-10-21T07:38:22+00:00

Don't forget to differentiate between:
* Sexual Market Value (SMV); and
* (commited)Relationship Market Value (RMV).

There is a hugh diffrence, between a woman her SMV and RMV. Especially after hitting the wall.
A woman her SMV is always way higher then her RMV.
Aka a woman can almost always get sex (even past hitting the wall) from men, because men want sex more then there a women giving it. But getting a man to enter a commited (monogamous) relationship, that will be much much harder for women.
Because a man (that is a 7) will often fuck a woman that is a 4; but he won't want to have a long term commited relationship with her. Then most men want a woman that is at minimum a little bit les acctractive as him, like a 5.5 at minimum (when he is a 7).

When doing a Tinder experiment. One is basically doing a Sexual Market Value (SMV) experiment.

Playstation_5 · 2018-10-21T06:40:43+00:00

From what I've seen here on tinder looking at the 35-45 age group, almost all are post wall with a small number using filters, surgery and makeup to look better. And anecdotally, most of them seem to be still on and still active ie.posting new photos or updating their text a year after I first see them.

For each 100 matches I get in the 35-45 bracket (my main photo is topless with my hand down my jeans, mimicking the good looking and slutty pics that get the females 20-30 thousands of matches) there are perhaps 2 or 3 attractive ones. 90 will be far heavier than me and the remaining 6 or 7 slim but not attractive.

Having talked to a number of the landwhales for research purposes, they claim to mainly get matches from guys 20-25 who are looking to fuck just about anything regardless of looks, and guys 45-65 who are making dirty requests by the third message.

DrFeelFantastic · 2018-10-21T06:44:00+00:00

'and plenty of their matches aren't hideous looking males, either' - The words of a totally straight, in no way repressing homosexuality, man.

Hitting the wall doesn't mean a woman can't get laid anymore, and it's got a lot more to do with fertility than fuckability. It means she can no longer hope to keep the commitment of alpha males who are capable enough and feel free enough to date younger and younger women without ever committing (no scarcity mentality) and so she'll have to settle for a lesser man than she would otherwise have been able to get a life long commitment from if she'd behaved herself with these men.

tramese · 2018-10-21T18:15:57+00:00

Most 40 year old women still do better than your average male on dating sites.

when all you have to do is spread your legs, its not hard to win.

2018-10-21T06:52:32+00:00

Do remember, a lot of dating sites will contain many a simp who will take whatever they can get ie the first sign of woman's approval or the premise of (any) sex, hence why women in general, even these 40+ yr old wall hitters, will do better than men on these sites. DrFeelFantastic pretty much hit the nail on the head. some of these wall battle mammoth 40yr old women can still get laid easily.

Non-PC-Guy · 2018-10-21T09:02:15+00:00

Most of these women have unrealistic expectations and expect better than an average man.

TopherOHoolihan · 2018-10-21T07:33:45+00:00

Firstly girl these days r the biggest liars ever so none of them even look as good as they present on social media. Secondly dudes just swipe right thoughtlessly so those mean nothing. Third, most of those men would not go on a date with these older chicks they just swipe right cuz they are lazy/bored/ horny and then they would never go on date 2 once they realize she’s even worse in person. Fourth, most dudes would only pump and dump those older chicks anyways. - remember men seek sex, women seek commitment. Add up all those caveats and you see why a post wall woman is fucked

gimme_wood · 2018-10-21T06:53:16+00:00

Online dating shifted the goalposts in women's favor big time but mostly when it comes to sex for post wall women. Personally, I rather use VR porn and my fleshlight than sleep with an old lady so IDGAF what other men do. Work on going your OWN way.

By the way, women cope with losing access to Chads very poorly. I know a good few and the train wreck keeps unfolding. Naturally very beautiful women who stay fit don't feel the pain until 40+, but most do by 25-35. Especially the chubsters as they start to get gross cellulite thighs. Ultimately, who cares. You can focus on revenge fantasies or on your own life. I was where you are now and working my way out. Happier as I progress. 10/10 recommend

sanjeevpalakala · 2018-10-21T09:22:34+00:00

The wall isvery real. Very. And yes like always women will always have it easier in anything because of the only true sexism which is hating men.

2018-10-21T16:24:00+00:00

It used to be that women were considered old maids if they weren’t married and had kids by age 20. Lucky 13, if you survived and made it to 13 you were lucky cause you got to have sex and make a baby.

deeselecter · 2018-10-21T18:57:36+00:00

Sée I know of a few post wall women non married no kids so the body is better preserved. Who still go on dates get fucked but almost always single

flee_market · 2018-10-22T19:14:30+00:00

Women aren't looking for sex, that will always be available.

Women are looking for commitment - in other words, life on easy mode as a beta simp does everything for them treating them like a princess.

Women are the gatekeepers of sex; men are the gatekeepers of "commitment".

Women don't want to have to reciprocate in a relationship (looking at you Elaine), but once they hit the wall they find they have no choice but to reciprocate otherwise they can't keep a man around for longer than the initial novelty lasts; he's off to fuck some other thot now.

Some women hit the wall much earlier than others due to unfortunate genetics, unhealthy lifestyle, or just plain being born ugly.

Again, men will gladly hit that but they won't stick around for all the bullshit a woman expects in exchange (in short: ALL of his time, money, effort, freedom, and finally sanity).

THAT is the wall. The wall is where women cannot get what they want easily anymore, and admit defeat by finally learning to invest energy in relationships beyond "k" in a Tinder conversation.

Title	Is the wall real?
Author	TakeTheBP
Upvotes	1
Comments	24
Date	October 21, 2018 6:28 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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