Just an innocent question.

Sol_Install · 2018-03-05T16:05:36+00:00

AMALT doesn't exist. Right off the bat, men openly admit there are indeed "bad" men. We do it all the time. Now let's address this idea of men being consumed by sex. People are quick to defend women when they do horrible things. Like the idea that underage girls can sexually desire older men or can be violent. AWALT by definition is women acting in the best interest of herself and women in general. For instance, a man can try to do this as an individual but not really as a group. You can take any race nationalist and they never care about their fellow man. They just want to outbreed another race for power by majority rules.

Men are not trying to wait until a woman works for something just to have her use what she worked for only for HIS benefit for nothing in return. While there are men who use women for money, generally speaking as in throughout history and in every civilization, men are expected to labor for the benefit of everyone but themselves. While it's true that pushing women to reproduce isn't really about benefiting the woman since men are pushing it generally for the benefit of their people, women are not shamed for not doing anything.

Ask yourself, what are women expected to do for men? What are they shamed and spat upon for? What do women earn that they are expected to fork over to men for nothing in return? AMALT doesn't work because men readily judge and criticize other men and disgustingly so. You don't see men saying shit like, "Oh, you're just bitter you can't get laid/loser virgin/you just hate men." to women right?

Look around. What men are wanting things from women for FREE? No one. The men who want the stay at home wife/mother are willing to foot the bill for all the finances. Men are not lying to women's faces then do a complete 180 on their so called desires. You don't see a man say "Oh, I want a woman who treats me with respect and so on", then only want a woman who actually treat men like shit. You don't see men trying to cover other shitty men in relations to women. Men have died protecting women yet how few men can even say they were warned by their own mother about how bad women can be?

Look at Feminism for instance. You don't see men invading female spaces demanding men should be part of it. You don't see men costing women their jobs or demanding free financial support from women either. Men are not supporting the idea of hitting women for no reason. Men only advocate hitting women in retaliation no different than they would a man.

Now you might argue that men want sex. Which is true. But isn't it very telling that basically almost every religion and culture bash men for being single? They accuse men of homosexuality, they have openly discriminated against single men. Hell, depending on WHERE you live, they can see you as a child sexual predator. Where is this for women?

And no man supports a double standard that harms women but gives men a free pass. Just ask. Women want XXX and YYY and ZZZ from men. Yet none actually say what they can offer to a man. Let alone in what way they can make a man's life easier.

lostapwbm · 2018-03-05T16:42:59+00:00

whats the difference between awalt and amalt?

AWALT is a presumption held by individual men. It can be rebutted by any given woman if she chose to do so. I admit that there are some women who possess unicorn characteristics, as far as I've seen.

AMALT is an article of faith of feminism. There is no amount of good any given man can do to overcome it. It doesn't matter than rapists are less than 1% of the men in America. It doesn't matter than men in America used to execute other men for rape. It doesn't matter than men enshrined rape shield laws (denying a defendant the use of character evidence against a complaining witness in a criminal trial).

AMALT means 1% of men = 100% of men, therefore, 'RAEP KULTUR.' Q.E.D.

AWALT leads to walking away from women; AMALT leads to passing of laws against men.

BoskOfPortKar · 2018-03-05T15:52:17+00:00

All men are potentially Gods while women may at best be fuckable sluts.

tylerden · 2018-03-05T16:12:47+00:00

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SamCasey98 · 2018-03-05T15:47:05+00:00

You mean what is the difference between a man and a woman. Buy a vowel and que back up.

Fabianstrategy1 · 2018-03-05T16:47:19+00:00

I'm probably in the minority on this one but I believe AMALT exists as well, however, laws exist (or have become more draconian) to keep our worst AMALT behavior in check, Women's AWALT laws have all but been dismantled which puts us in the current predicament of women having what's called a "pussy pass", pedestalization, damseling behavior, etc. It could even be said that some Male Unicorns probably exist here as well, I'm definitely not one but I see a lot of decent would-be husbands in the wild who are currently raising fine, upstanding dogs.

2018-03-05T18:33:06+00:00

Reality: men and women are different. Consequently, AWALT and AMALT address different things (the truth value of these things also differ, heavily in favor of AWALT). Though if you wish to confirm the truth value of AWALT (and lack of it for AMALT) for yourself, you will have to do some reading, beyond reddit comments, on the scientifically verified difference between male and female brains/behaviors. Briffault's law and hypergamy are just starters.

On a side note, isn't it interesting how they copy and mirror things from MGTOW (WGTOW, AMALT). No originality.

2018-03-05T21:29:40+00:00

At their core, nothing. All members of either gender share certain characteristics. The difference lies in what people claim those characteristics are. If you claim all people of a gender share a given mating strategy, that makes sense. They all share the same anatomy, and it would follow they've been ingrained with the same instincts as to how to use it. On the other hand claiming all members of a certain gender are criminals or likely to become so, simply flies in the face of all evidence.

Title	Just an innocent question.
Author	tylerden
Upvotes	5
Comments	15
Date	March 5, 2018 3:37 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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