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[–]TVTestPattern 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
If our politicians weren't already bribed to prop up the communication monopoly I would agree with you.
As it stands, absent some limits on these corporate criminals we will continue to see them rape consumers and limit the free expression of ideas.
Unknowing or not, this makes you a fascist.
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[–]TVTestPattern 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Would you support a tiered drinking water system?
$100/ month clean pure water.
$50//month Gray water.
$10/month sewage.
Same idea here.
Like I said, either we stop political corruption supporting these monopolies, or we establish laws to limit these monopolies power to fuck consumers.
Monopolies can only exist with government sponsorship... otherwise you're right... the free market would naturally react to exploitative monopolies through competition.
That's the real problem.
Our political class is corrupt and for sale to corporate interests.
What we should do is jail politicians who sell their votes for corporate bribes... neutrality is the alternative.
How many internet providers do you get to choose from?
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[–]TVTestPattern 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
A well reasoned argument.
Color me shocked.
You are fortunate you now have an internet alternative... this is far and away the exception.
I agree that government is generally a poor substitute for free markets as well. In fact I'd say that governments have no business in anything except military, police and courts.
However, if we are going to accept government interference through market regulations, we need some mechanism for limiting the monopolistic bribery that comes with that.
I'd personally dissolve every non-military, police and judicial government agency tomorrow, but since that ain't gonna happen... we benefit from restricting monopoly influence.
It's thin gruel... but it's better than trusting AT&T and Comcast.
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[–]TVTestPattern 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I guess the benefit I see with leaving the government out of it, is that you have more control over a cooperation than a government.
Not if they own the politicians who are regulating it we don't.
I’m glad we can have a respectful conversation.
Me too.
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[–]TVTestPattern 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sure.
Nobody gives back power except at gunpoint though.
Maybe that's what it will come to.
[–]matthevv3 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
At least with corporations you can stop paying for their services as a form of protest to their policies.
Good luck with that when a large chunk of americans only have access to 1 ISP.
[–]TB4092 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Take this to another sub baby girl.
[–]I_TRIGGER_SJWS_LUL 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Reddit is advocating for NN? What about spez modifying Reddit's algorithm so that posts from T_D/other conservative subreddits can't appear on r/all?
That's all you need to say to make them stfu
[–]TVTestPattern -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Kiss me.
[–]AR96 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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[–]mthrowaway523 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not mgtow in the least. Report for spam
[–]TVTestPattern -4 points-3 points-2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go right ahead.
[–]TVTestPattern 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
A post I found that peeks behind the curtain...
"Former PR worker here, 99% of our job is to convince people that something that is fucking them over is actually good for them. The whole concept of 'shills' has somehow became a conspiracy theory when in reality it's just PR workers who are paid by a company to defend their product/service. My last job was defending fracking. Anytime a post containing keywords was submitted to a popular website we where notified and it was our job to just list off talking points and debate the most popular comments. Fracking was an easy one to defend because you could paint people as anti-science if they where against it. The science behind fracking is sound and if done properly is safe, so you just focus on this point. You willfully ignore the fact that fracking is done by people who almost never do it properly and are always looking to cut corners. Your talking points usually contain branching arguments if people try to debate back. For example my next point would be to bring up that these companies are regulated so they couldn't cut corners or they would be fined, all the while knowing that these agencies are either underfunded or have been captured by the very industry they are trying to regulate. The final talking point, if someone called you out on all your counterpoints, was to simply try to paint them as a wackjob. Suggest they are crazy for thinking agencies who are suppose to protect them have been bought and paid for. Bring up lizard people to muddy the waters. A lot of people will quickly distance themselves from something if it is accused of being a conspiracy theory, and a lot of them are stupid enough that you can convince them that believing businesses conspiring to break the law to gain profit is literally the same as believing in aliens and bigfoot.
"Former PR worker here, 99% of our job is to convince people that something that is fucking them over is actually good for them. The whole concept of 'shills' has somehow became a conspiracy theory when in reality it's just PR workers who are paid by a company to defend their product/service. My last job was defending fracking.
Anytime a post containing keywords was submitted to a popular website we where notified and it was our job to just list off talking points and debate the most popular comments. Fracking was an easy one to defend because you could paint people as anti-science if they where against it. The science behind fracking is sound and if done properly is safe, so you just focus on this point. You willfully ignore the fact that fracking is done by people who almost never do it properly and are always looking to cut corners.
Your talking points usually contain branching arguments if people try to debate back. For example my next point would be to bring up that these companies are regulated so they couldn't cut corners or they would be fined, all the while knowing that these agencies are either underfunded or have been captured by the very industry they are trying to regulate. The final talking point, if someone called you out on all your counterpoints, was to simply try to paint them as a wackjob. Suggest they are crazy for thinking agencies who are suppose to protect them have been bought and paid for. Bring up lizard people to muddy the waters. A lot of people will quickly distance themselves from something if it is accused of being a conspiracy theory, and a lot of them are stupid enough that you can convince them that believing businesses conspiring to break the law to gain profit is literally the same as believing in aliens and bigfoot.
[–]MadPreacher1AD10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So who's paying your salary to shill for Net Neutrality?
[–]AbsolutKek 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Neck yourself. Spreading disinformation. Go away shill. No sheckel for u
[–]TVTestPattern 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
lol... Neck... no arguments I see... just another ad hominem.
Present one fucking reasonable argument or stfu.
[–]matthevv3 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are going to have a rough time on this subreddit, it is full of conservative shills that pretend MGTOW is the conservative version of feminism. It is beyond their tiny brains to think for themselves instead of subscribing to the partisan politics hivemind.
[–]TVTestPattern -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How much does it pay to shill for these corporations anyway?
I might be interested... everybody has their price.
[–]Tyrone-Chaddingston-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
For the second time, why do you promote your globalist anti-men agenda on one of the few male-tolerant subs?
[–]matthevv3 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How the fuck is net neutrality anti-men? What the fuck? Just how indoctrinated are you to the republican party? MGTOW is not the conservative version of feminism, men all across the political spectrum can go MGTOW.
In my personal opinion siding with either party is retarded, your stance should be decided on a case by case stance, not on what your hivemind tells you to think. Net neutrality is good for everyone that isn't a corporation.
Why don't you make an argument instead of spouting buzzwords?
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