Mingling with the System

steadymotion · 2013-10-18T04:53:02+00:00

How do you respond to said topics (Do you avoid discussions, or attempt to argue with blue pill men/women)?

I neither avoid discussion nor attempt to argue. I usually employ something like the Socratic method. I'll ask questions which are designed to reveal the ignorance of a person's standpoint and to guide them towards the enlightenment of my own standpoint. It's easier that way.

Example 1

BP: "How can you think so lowly of women?"

Me: "Did I say I was thinking lowly of women, or is that your own evaluation?"

Example 2

BP: "But we need a minimum wage law so that people aren't taken advantage of by greedy businessmen."

Me: "Would you also say we need a law which demands men to take women out to a certain number of dinner dates so that women aren't taken advantage of by greedy men?"

I have fun with it.

thrownaway_MGTOW · 2013-10-19T18:28:54+00:00

I switch up different modes depending on who I'm chatting with.

Sometimes playing the Socratic game (feed them rope, let them hang themselves, then leave them dangling) can be really fun.

Other times just for kicks I'll play devil's advocate and take an even more extreme absurd position (though with as extreme as "feminism" and it's corollary male-self-castration has become, this is getting harder to do. Cf Poe's law -- but if you get creative you can still manage it.)

"Yeah, well, you wanna talk about 'all men being rapists' -- well I saw you eying up that chick at the end of the bar -- you were SO obviously 'raping' her in your mind: so should I call the cops, or do you wanna just drive down to the station and turn yourself in."

Still other times, I prefer to try to change the conversation onto subjects that reveal the foolish/wastefulness of "bluepillers"; this is especially easy around financial issue things like dates, and all of the engagement & wedding garbage:

"Really man, you mean you blew $300 on a fancy dinner & show with that skank? Dang I hope you at least got some really good head out of it, but that seems like a lot of time & expense for an orgasm ... because I just spent $300 on the sweeetist little table saw, cuts like BUTTER man! You know it's almost like the one George has, dude says I'll probably get 20 or 30 years out of it. Plus it's got a nice little router table built-in, so all I have to do it pick up a $100 router..."

And of course shit like engagement rings/weddings are even more fun:

"Dang didja hear what Larry spent on that 'rock' for his 'fiancee' -- shit the dude blew more on that than I did on that 4x4 Truck -- and the truck ain't anywhere near as used as she is."

Or

"Fuck man, for what Dave dropped on that wedding, he coulda put 20% down on a decent house & had a garage & shop & stuff; he'd even get off more on AND in that than he ever will in HER anymore now that he's hitched... and at least with the house he could sell it when he was sick of it... get his money back out. She'll probably 'plop one out' and then use it to screw him for the next 2 decades."

Lay the numbers out in front of them... if they have any brains, they'll do the math and start to figure it out.

And if they don't, well the first (and last) rule about being a lifeguard is: Don't drown with a drowning victim. You toss them a rope, or throw them a life ring... you don't join them in the depths.

Xlasingx · 2013-10-18T03:52:38+00:00

Speak your mind. Do not back down. Play the game so you shall prevail.

Do not back down. (The statist you regard, is an illusion, one that will consume you). Walk your own path, own your path, do not allow anyone whom does not understand - MGTOW. It's time all men take a stance!!!

10199 · 2013-10-18T06:01:07+00:00

was at wedding as a best man told this old joke as toast, when "Why bride is in white? because its her best day etc! but why groom is in black?" dat look on her face - priceless :D

2014-02-12T23:39:43+00:00

I find that sometimes a good discussion, where you try to understand their perspective and where they are sourcing their knowledge from, is a fun thing to partake in. It's not the time to get angry that they're still 'plugged in' or try to convince them that you are correct. More to just learn to talk about the subject more openly, instead of get all pent up at your computer, typing and confirming your thoughts online.

A healthy debate makes the debaters stronger, and allows you to learn to listen without judgement. At the end of the day though, if you're finding it's not a discussions, but a rampage or diatribe, just move on to better people who you can share better times with.

Title	Mingling with the System
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Upvotes	13
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Date	October 18, 2013 3:07 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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