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[–]Ultramegasaurus77 points78 points79 points 8 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
I dislike nice guys just like the next Red Pilled/Black Pilled dude for inflating women's egos further, but honestly, the way women (and the men regurgitating women's crap) hate on them is ridiculous.
If you took them serious, there is an epidemic of guys out there who act nice and then become rapists and killers when rejected. It's such a pile of bullshit. Women only hate on nice guys this much because they're unattractive men and drag women's true nature into the light. And if there is one fucking thing that women hate, it's being seen as the shallow, instinct-driven primates we all are. Women literally see themselves as too deep and virtuous to be shallow. Instead, they convinced everyone that shallowness is an exclusively male characteristic. So, in order to resolve this huge contradiction and cognitive dissonance of not being attracted to men who ought to be a perfect match, those men must be painted as evil by building strawmen of epic proportions. The clearest indicator of their strawmanning is how women always accuse nice guys of only wanting "to get in their pants", because desiring casual sex makes men, especially unattractive ones, extra disgusting. A dumb notion in itself, but it's also simply a lie. Nice guys base their behavior on a romantic fantasy dictated by media and female propaganda. And they also project their standards onto women, many men would be extremely flattered to have the female equivalent of a nice guy pining for them. Women literally say it themselves in their tirades: "nice is the baseline!", but that's untrue from men's point of view. The vast majority of nice guys want normal, loving relationships, not casual sex.
I do not have that much sympathy for nice guys, but I can exactly understand where they're coming from. And this sheer, unfiltered hatred against them really reveals women's utter lack of humility and gratefulness, plus the seething scorn for unattractive men. Nice guy shaming is toxic feminity in purity.
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women only hate on nice guys this much because they're unattractive men and drag women's true nature into the light.
Well said.
[–]UglyMan1210 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
People on reddit called me a 'nice guy' simply because I was unattractive. I never mentioned treating women differently, buying them things for no reason nor clinging onto them after rejection but the fact that I would even dare say that I can not get a woman because I don't meet their standards and the white knights call me a nice guy. You hit the nail on the head that women would rather rationalize why they don't like certain guys than admit that they are shallow.
[–]rationalthought3147 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
there is an epidemic of guys out there who act nice and then become rapists and killers when rejected
It's just so they can justify being an utter bitch to a guy who believed one of those stupid meme on how to love a woman and romance movies. The reality is more women are abused and killed by a current or ex-boyfriend/husband who was the bad boy their primitive genes told them to get with rather than some loner nice guy. They hoist Eliot Rodger up as a nice guy boogeyman when he is the exception not the rule.
And this sheer, unfiltered hatred against them really reveals women's utter lack of humility and gratefulness, plus the seething scorn for unattractive men. Nice guy shaming is toxic feminity in purity.
well said! It's a shame the guy thinks that they are the problem rather than when a girl shows cruelty to nice guy, who as mentioned before was just doing what he thought society was telling to do, this shows she is not worthy of attention and he needs to stop putting women on pedestals.
Nice guys have to realize that all that shit in the media about love and women is just that - shit. Women typically tend to be the worst judge of character hence why so many of them wind up in abusive relationships (well the ones that actually are not the ones they lie about) and chase after drug dealers and ex-cons. Showing a woman respect is the quickest way into the friend zone, ignored as a stalker, or put into a simp boyfriend relationship where she uses you, emotionally abuses you, and cheats on you.
[–]Watchingcluturefade6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Huh, interesting.
Newer to MGTOW and this whole thing (was a TRP lurker for a while now) but I had truthfully never heard the term "BlackPill" before, was an interesting google.
Other than that, definitely agree with what you have said for the most part.
I have found one of the most effective Laws of Power to use on women, especially in the working world, is Law #44 Disarm and Infuriate with the Mirror Effect.
In my personal experiences using this tactic, I have found a larger percentage of men see through it and disengage. Meanwhile I have found a larger percentage of women get infuriated more and more and their anger is easy to manipulate and take advantage of their state of weakness.
As to the nice guys, yeah, I do too feel bad for them. I will often time, when in a position to have a rational discussion, ask them pointed questions to see if their life choices are gaining them what they are searching for. Often times the answer is no and I will try to steer the direction towards "Are you afraid to answer using the word 'No'?"
I find it incredibly how many men I meet that are considered "nice guys" are simply afraid of confrontation.
[–]paushaz0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Law #44 Disarm and Infuriate with the Mirror Effect.
Wat
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You nailed it!
[–]ButtsMacGillacuty1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Holy frejoles there's not enough upvotes for this.
[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There is a simple cure for nice guy syndrome:
1) stop thinking of yourself as nice and just be a guy.
2) take the pussy off the pedestal. Women ain't shit. and love is a lie.
3) learn how to negotiate.
4) understand women are attracted to power and that includes the power to walk away.
[–]OutWithTheNew4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nothing makes their heads spin as much as paying them no attention, or completely dismissing them.
[–]DerKomissar112 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
These days it would be like:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZvWvfCSZ8M
[–]Mi91iwjw2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmao
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
women are just mad that nice guys are getting tired of buying them dinners. If women really wanted to solve the problem of their nice guy orbiters expecting sex in exchange for buying them dinner then women would offer to pay for their own food!
[–]poloppoyop6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you have not red already, Slate Star Codex has a really good post about nice guys
It does not mean “I am nice in some important cosmic sense, therefore I am entitled to sex with whomever I want.” It means: “I am a nicer guy than Henry.” Or to spell it out very carefully, Henry clearly has no trouble attracting partners. He’s been married five times and had multiple extra-marital affairs and pre-marital partners, many of whom were well aware of his past domestic violence convictions and knew exactly what they were getting into. Meanwhile, here I was, twenty-five years old, never been on a date in my life, every time I ask someone out I get laughed at, I’m constantly teased and mocked for being a virgin and a nerd whom no one could ever love, starting to develop a serious neurosis about it. And here I was, tried my best never to be mean to anyone, pursued a productive career, worked hard to help all of my friends. I didn’t think I deserved to have the prettiest girl in school prostrate herself at my feet. But I did think I deserved to not be doing worse than Henry.
It does not mean “I am nice in some important cosmic sense, therefore I am entitled to sex with whomever I want.”
It means: “I am a nicer guy than Henry.”
Or to spell it out very carefully, Henry clearly has no trouble attracting partners. He’s been married five times and had multiple extra-marital affairs and pre-marital partners, many of whom were well aware of his past domestic violence convictions and knew exactly what they were getting into. Meanwhile, here I was, twenty-five years old, never been on a date in my life, every time I ask someone out I get laughed at, I’m constantly teased and mocked for being a virgin and a nerd whom no one could ever love, starting to develop a serious neurosis about it.
And here I was, tried my best never to be mean to anyone, pursued a productive career, worked hard to help all of my friends. I didn’t think I deserved to have the prettiest girl in school prostrate herself at my feet. But I did think I deserved to not be doing worse than Henry.
[–]AidenA570 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
r/niceguys
[–]Blogginginvicecity0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cool. I haven't met any guys like that.
[–]Mr_Meme_Machine0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Being nice by nature kinda sucks, people like to think I just pretend.
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