Question about MGTOW

astuteglute · 2019-08-13T13:11:09+00:00

You never know your wife until you see her in family court

martynhare · 2019-08-13T12:59:51+00:00

I actually posted a reply to two others just now who asked a similar question.

In a nutshell, it's because women are good at pretending and if you take the gamble and lose, you're shafted for life.

Put it this way, normally, if you lose all your assets and can't pay off your debts, you can still go bankrupt and clear everything. With marriage ending in a divorce, bankruptcy does not change anything, the moment you get back on your feet, you keep on paying. With child support, you often still have to pay even if you see the child for as many hours as the mother does, even if you're still paying for all the child's stuff already outside of any legal arrangements.

Also, the mother can often literally run off with your child then demand you pay to support her lifestyle while she simultaneously denies you the ability to support your own flesh and blood through lies and manipulation.

Are you prepared to risk that?

(Edit: Grammar)

OLD-TRUCK · 2019-08-13T12:56:07+00:00

I don't want a family. It's just a money pit.

BiffBiffBiff27 · 2019-08-13T12:57:51+00:00

For me there's too much self-sacrifice required for starting a family, too many variables and ways society can conspire to fuck up your children or your life.

Finding a quality woman is only the first part of the equation. I'm not going to gamble for something I can't see the odds or prize for unless it's a personal pursuit. Having a family is self sacrifical by nature, which I'm all for, but not when the game is so stacked against you by fault of society itself.

NasaTrickedYou · 2019-08-13T13:00:38+00:00

All women are feminists because all women benefit from feminism and refuse to give up any of the privileges feminism has gained for them. Just because your girl isn't a butch shaved head pierced up freak, doesn't mean she's "not all feministy". They all are, at their core, feminists. They look out for the female collective and will put their own needs and the needs of their group, ahead of your needs and the needs of men. It's why we are all losing so badly. In order for society to function, the needs of the man must be put first. He is the head of the household and the woman must follow his lead and do everything in her power to support him. But instead what we have is fake female chameleons tradthots saying that they aren't feminists and they hate feminism, meanwhile they go behind the husband's or BF's back, vote liberal, do things like divorce rape, or get single mother benefits or even just demand free tampons and longer maternity leave. Women are not , and will not ever be on your side. They are out for themselves. They are all feminists!

nDelray · 2019-08-13T13:00:35+00:00

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RespectFurries · 2019-08-13T12:56:35+00:00

No we want more control over our own lives and to better our lives and gain financial wealth, and doing so requires us to typically avoid relationships sense one wrong move can destroy you life in today’s world. So it’s more like us being cautious rather then just avoiding relationships in a whole.

RT-AC66U · 2019-08-13T13:54:02+00:00

Just wait, in x years she will wake up unhappy one day. Or he best friend will get divorced and decide she needs a wing man and she will poison your wife's mind under she kicks you out.

I've seen it happen and I'm in South Carolina.

McPiggy · 2019-08-13T14:19:03+00:00

I have kids that I am with very often. They’re from relationships that I made it out of relatively unscathed (up to now!). They are more than enough family for me. My boys have given me renewed vigor, in fact. Nothing like being a father with a beautiful, healthy baby boy. It really makes me happy when I’m with him. I also love having someone I am able to pass on knowledge and legacy to.

nDelray · 2019-08-13T13:02:06+00:00

I simply don't want a family, it's nothing but a drag (from my personal standpoint).

Although, if you want family, go for it! After all we are MGTOW, we do whatever we want :)

Just don't be surprised if something goes wrong...

NeverTrustAVaJayJay · 2019-08-13T13:05:26+00:00

You cant find any either op, you think you own that pussy, but its just your turn. Good luck brother.

yooshio · 2019-08-13T13:47:12+00:00

I guess I got lucky enough to find a woman who wasn't infected with feminism

lol

Hiromant · 2019-08-13T13:48:21+00:00

You think you have a family but you really don't. When the time is right, family court will make that abundantly clear to you. Or maybe not. You're willing to take that chance, we're not.

CoinSwapTrader · 2019-08-13T14:25:13+00:00

Most MGTOWs did dream of having a family once...then we slapped ourselves out of the blue pill haze and woke up!

NeverNeverLandIsNow · 2019-08-13T15:23:12+00:00

I am from the south east as well, I don't want a family and never did, I was married for a long time, biggest mistake of my life but fortunately one I no longer have to live with. Southern women may be a little better but don't think they are really any different in the end. For me getting married again just seems like an idiotic thing to do, I don't see any benefits that come close to outweighing the risks of having a relationshit with a woman.

CognPsycNeurScie · 2019-08-13T19:55:00+00:00

You are not dealing with one woman, but with three completely different women: one that you get to know and marry; one with whom you live in marriage; one who divorces you.

It's a steady development from kind to crazy.

Hiromant · 2019-08-13T13:15:57+00:00

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ToolFan4Ever · 2019-08-14T07:27:09+00:00

LOL...everyone of us thought like you did at one time. Your location really has nothing to do with it...I'm from east coast too, a little farther north but they're "bitches" everywhere and no one is immune.

Your question about family...well I had that, still have my daughter (who is grown now) but even the one's you'd least expect to "up and leave" do so and not much you can really do about it. Worked out great for me though, happier now more than I ever was being married. Good luck though man in your future and just stay vigilant.

DannyTTT55 · 2019-08-13T13:51:26+00:00

I'd like a family, but not at the cost and the risk

Every person has their own risk tolerance and for me, at least in the West it has gone above and beyond

I'll put it to you this way. What if women could legally at any time after you married them, cut your balls off

Sure, there would be women out there who wouldn't do it, others who will use it as blackmail against you to make you a shell of a man, and others won't think for a second about it

How much do you want to raise a family now...

Has your desire at least slightly gone down

Now add to that knowing that 50% of men who got married had this happen to them

Krazyrobus · 2019-08-13T14:04:25+00:00

No thanks to family, already paying through the nose for family that I didn't even create!

As for finding a non-feminist, there is a good expression, you never know a woman till she divorces you, I'd rather not take that leap and be stuck holding the bag.

nDelray · 2019-08-13T15:41:29+00:00

Thanks for all the comments guys. So my next question is how many of you guys are products of single mothers? I'm wondering if there is a correlation.

NathanHollister · 2019-08-13T17:04:08+00:00

We don;t want a family, or a relationship, nothing can change our minds.

MGTOWrath · 2019-08-13T18:26:28+00:00

Why would I want my child to suffer? I love my kids too much to let them be born in this decaying rock we call a planet.

SirGuileSir · 2019-08-13T21:28:23+00:00

Nah - it's regional; the redneck states don't just have all of those fine females. I believe it's dependent upon age and population density. The younger the woman and bigger the city, the more likely you are to have issues. Just my guess.

Also, hang around Orlando, Tampa and Miami especially, and you will get your fill of local southern bitches pretty fast. Hit small town Georgia and it's a world of difference. There is still that southern charm and manners. Same thing happens in other states, OP. But to be fair, the mannerisms of the men seem to change a bit as well. More brusque, and seemingly more self-centered or something. Not sure, just what I feel.

What's a real tragedy is that Canada used to be so very polite like in the south as you infer; pristine, polite and well-mannered. Just a real pleasure to be around. But, they're going into the shitter in the same manner by age and population density. Am I rambling? Sorry!

quickGunShoot · 2019-08-14T01:36:48+00:00

MGTOW offers freedom. There’s no women in the world that doesn’t come without some sort of baggage. Even if she’s not into feminism, she still nags or creates some sort of drama from time to time. Even if she’s perfect the maintenance cost is not worth it. Marriage was always a shit deal for men.

fea_ther · 2019-08-13T14:10:50+00:00

It is very simple... are you willing to assume the risks for these perceive apparent benefits?

Title	Question about MGTOW
Author	nDelray
Upvotes	35
Comments	57
Date	August 13, 2019 12:51 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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