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If an 8 year old did say that, I’d be having him Mensa tested.
/r/MensRights07/09/19 09:14 AM
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The employee should be taken to criminal court not civil court, he must have made a statement under penalty of perjury at some point
/r/MensRights07/09/19 09:11 AM
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FMGTOW is for the win! These ‘turned off’ women will keep their drama to themselves and prove themselves on their own merit. This is progress, this is equality. Rather than just men having to STFU and keep on working, many women now have to do the exact same thing to succeed in the world on honest terms. This is a MGTOW dream come true. It makes my cost of living cheaper because greater competition brings about lower prices and more innovation. In fact, it should also lower house prices over tim…
/r/MGTOW07/09/19 08:43 AM
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It’s not that we can’t handle women, it’s that women generally can’t handle men and as a result some women go about making false accusations. Such accusations end careers and yet the reward for working with women 1:1 is very often nothing; at least with men, the risk factor is minimised.
/r/MGTOW05/09/19 04:28 PM
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Which is fine because the working woman will now have her own cost-per-nut and more competition over access. Think about it....
/r/MGTOW05/09/19 04:00 PM
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If they were made purely with that in mind they’d have age differential criteria added or the age of responsibility for such laws would begin at a specific older age instead.
/r/MGTOW05/09/19 03:55 PM
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Remember Alinity chucked her cat, what happened in the end?
/r/MGTOW04/09/19 07:06 PM
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My hobby is watching so-bad-theyre-good movies for the funny aspect like Flash Gordon. Recently heard that puts me at the front of the queue for some of the latest releases now though.
/r/MGTOW04/09/19 07:04 PM
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AWALT means that by definition, homewreckers are a myth. All I see is hypergamous women competing with each other by seeking out men who have either resources or attributes they desire. We live in an age of equality which means that women now have an equal opportunity to seek out and compete for the attention of men; that is as opposed to the age of chivalry, where men exclusively competed for the attention of women.
/r/MGTOW04/09/19 05:34 AM
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The question is wrong because gay and lesbian are two different concepts to many people. Think about it. of course something is not gay if two women do it, it isn’t necessarily any less lezzy though!
/r/MensRights03/09/19 09:37 PM
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Lauren Southern defies her anatomical assumptions and he’s a white dude with attitude!
/r/MGTOW03/09/19 06:15 PM
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In the UK we force victims to hand over more than the accused is forced to hand over these days. Feminists are losing their minds over the idea that a rape victim must make all communications available to the police while the accused does not have to. Fair is fair, the burden of proof is not on the accused. The one who makes the claim in this instance must supply the evidence.
/r/MensRights02/09/19 10:51 AM
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I love how people are indicating that if she’s a radfem it might be impossible to reason with her. Ahahahahahah
/r/MGTOW30/08/19 05:50 PM
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Women don’t act weak. I’m not sure what you’re really getting at to be honest.
/r/MGTOW30/08/19 05:46 PM
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The UK has freedom of opinion, which provides effectively the same protections to speech, but only when speech is not used to make threats, incite violence, make falsehoods or stir up hatred. It’s easy to avoid falling foul of all of these caveats. From the UK Human Rights Act of 1998: Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontie…
/r/MGTOW30/08/19 06:41 AM
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You can be as man as you like around friends and without jealous women interfering. Live life for yourself and you’ll not only survive but thrive.
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 08:39 PM
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Don’t marry, don’t have kids, don’t cohabitate. That alone should make you happier than half of all men currently doing all three of those things. Next, live within your means. The rest is up to you.
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 08:30 PM
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I love people who use the UK ONS to wreck morons. It’s my favourite source of stats.
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 08:22 PM
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TYOT would be Try Your Own Thing Erm... lol?
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 08:19 PM
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Finance - Only invest in property which reduces, not increases operational expenditure as much as possible - these are your assets, everything else is a liability. It doesn't matter how much your house is worth, if it increases your cost of living for a good 20 years, it's not worth it. Likewise, your car should exist to save money (relative to what you earn per hour) over equivalent transportation options. Apply a similar logic to services too. Do they help more than hinder you? Internet access…
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 06:49 PM
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​ Finance - Only invest in property which reduces, not increases operational expenditure as much as possible - these are your assets, everything else is a liability. It doesn't matter how much your house is worth, if it increases your cost of living for a good 20 years, it's not worth it. Likewise, your car should exist to save money (relative to what you earn per hour) over equivalent transportation options. Apply a similar logic to services too. Do they help more than hinder you? Internet acce…
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 06:47 PM
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I'm a classical liberal and an atheist who respects science above religion and believes in equality of opportunity where it makes fair and logical sense to implement measures to encourage it. I also believe in the benefit of having universal healthcare, social safety nets and free education for those who demonstrate a sincere willingness to learn. Why am I going my own way? Well let me break it down: Marriage - 'Holy Matrimony' is meaningless to me. It's also a terrible legal contract. Children …
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 06:12 PM
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Let's see what happens with the divorce court action. I believed him the moment the truth about who filed the divorce came out. When his ex-wife lies about something as simple as that, that invalidates anything else she says. Likewise with the accusations coming from the minors, when they can't even stand by their original comments, deleting them, yet still taking money from people believing and supporting them... that's enough evidence to nullify said claims. I wish he would go after everyone a…
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 05:05 PM
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​ Are men seriously going to follow the “boxed wine, cat, and wall smashed” mötíf’ that used up THOTs are defined by? It's not because men won't go buying like 8-10 cats. Even if they did, emulating wall-smashed women doesn't do any real harm, especially if men do it from a very young age, rather than when they're around the age women start to do it. Here's why: Men with cats who don't get with women will increase the pool of single women More women will then have to work for a living, they have…
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 04:14 PM
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Go speak to a psychologist ASAP. Not a therapist but someone with an actual medical background. Also have a physician check for general health issues.
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 03:52 PM
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That's because therapy isn't proven to work. Actual medical assistance provided by a physician backed up by a team of psychologists and psychiatrists does help people if they seek it out more often than not.
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 03:50 PM
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If this story is true then she must have discovered that none of the sperm was viable for artificial insemination. If she did have viable sperm from 56 players, she could have repeated the following 2-3 times and walked away rich with zero effort: Obtain NBA player spunk Artificial insemination ASAP (for the $$$) Tell the rich NBA player daddy about the situation late-term Offer DNA sample from spunk Perform test to prove spunk matches Chances are if he's in a relationship, there's mass payouts …
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 03:46 PM
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This post indicates sexual dimorphism. That women and men are different biologically. What it doesn't do is indicate that gender is not a social construct. Gender actually is a social construct which came about as a byproduct in the development of modern language. There are up to three genders expressed in modern language: masculine, feminine and neuter (neutral). All three of these genders have nothing to do with biological sex. Don't believe me? Ask the Russians what the gender of a potato is …
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 03:09 PM
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​ I was afraid of losing my job, and he knew how desperate I was because I shared with him that I didn’t know what I would do if this didn’t work out. I didn’t want to jeopardize this job so I was afraid of rejecting him and tried to keep the friendship. As things went on, he started to become more misogynistic and sexist. He talked about the mystical power women hold over men with sex. How men are helpless and they need sex. How he needs sex, and a relationship, so he can write his music. He ta…
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 02:44 PM
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[This is a two part comment, see reply below this one for the second part] ​ TL;DR: I read through all of this, it has evidence and detail to back up everything except the rape. Feel free to read on if you want to read my analysis. ​ ​ On November 4 2008 I was contacted by a studio in Vancouver to design and build an ARG for their new IP. I talked about my experiences of working with this company before. For example, in this post. What I didn’t share, when talking about my experiences, is that I…
/r/MGTOW28/08/19 02:44 PM
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We used to in Scotland, old common law marriages are grandfathered. In England we’ve never had common law marriages but we are trying to reintroduce it essentially through the Cohabitation Rights Bill I keep mentioning it as an arse covering measure for people in rare scenarios
/r/MGTOW27/08/19 04:02 PM
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Scott could be doing things the intelligent way. He’s not screwed at present in the UK if he follows three rules: No children of his own (no child maintenance payouts at all) No marriage or intent at all (and no common law marriage) Do not register as living there (no contracts, bills, electoral roll etc.) This would mean he can back out at any point and she can legally claim housing benefits to pay for things like rent and council tax as they’re means tested based on household income and he’s n…
/r/MGTOW27/08/19 04:14 AM
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Willy like the dolphin This is just like something 4chan /pol/ would say to mess with peoples brains. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s an Operation Cockblock designed to change people’s assumptions about less attractive women and their potential redeeming qualities. Bilderbergers don’t control the world /pol/ does!
/r/MGTOW27/08/19 03:43 AM
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Technically someone can take a post-graduate degree in an unrelated field if they can find a way to bridge the gap when they approach the thesis or major project. So someone with an undergrad degree in psychology can do an IT related masters and use their psychological knowhow to contribute something new to the field. Thus meaning they’ve got a post-graduate degree (1 year education) for an area they didn’t graduate in (3 years normally). Theoretically someone who’s done English Literature could…
/r/MensRights27/08/19 03:34 AM
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In their report, Hope Not Hate note the role that various anti-feminist websites known together as the “Manosphere” are playing in serving as a “breeding ground for the far-right”. ​ The report itself contradicts those claims on Page 41. It clearly states: The subcultures of the manosphere by and large undermine their own political growth, be it because they are focused primarily on individual lifestyles (PUAs), actively reject collective action (MGTOW), or discourage – as noted, other than viol…
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 08:31 PM
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Saw a vid polluting my twitter feed saying this. Actual environmental pollution will probably kill us all Earthlings long before 2228. Even with green power sources, planting of billions of trees and weather manipulation to try and 'undesert' less useful areas of the planet...
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 06:59 PM
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The Express Reported: Sophie Molineux, 22, was furious after she claimed 50 commuters gave her “blank expressions so they didn’t have to give up their seat” on the busy train journey from Shropshire to Ludlow. She said she and partner Rob Moore were forced to stand in the aisle and take turns holding their child, Chester, throughout the 30-minute journey. The mother-of-one then shared a picture of her breastfeeding her son on the floor of the carriage. She didn't ask a train guard if there were …
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 03:15 PM
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According to Google Trends, Canada tops the list for global interest in the anti-woman movement known as Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW). I hope that MGTOW as a passive, apolitical lifestyle choice based upon living for oneself does indeed become a threat to Canadian national security. The only way this could really happen is if enough men legally minimise their tax payouts, personal purchases and net contributions to society, forcing politicians to consider how they're going to fix things in an…
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 02:52 PM
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What women like that don't get is that commitment is a choice not a right. It isn't the guys on average who end up worse off long term if you renege on a promise to remain faithfully monogamous. Us men are generally happy to be alive and doing our thing, especially when we have our own goals.
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 01:50 PM
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She actually ended up with about 2x the amount of clothes (plus accessories) Syed did That's about 6 lots of trousers, 10 lots of shirts and two lots of shoes. So basically two weeks worth of clothes ​ But as a girl, she needs at least 2 weeks worth of unique outfits plus matching accessories. She already has that anyway. Even if she didn't she has this thing called a school uniform. After that, she can get a thing called a job and wear a uniform there too! ​ Both Wife and Sara insist that Syed …
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 01:35 PM
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If you need money immediately and have very little experience, start as a 1st line IT support engineer. It's a glorified customer service role that pays piss poor initially but if you go above and beyond in terms of learning how the underlying technology you're supporting works - that's when you start to get paid decently for essentially doing less actual work than when you started out. (Seriously, 3rd line tickets are "hard" until you know enough to fix just about anything in the area you choos…
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 01:17 PM
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Nah, A knows he can quench that thirst with a prostitute or a well planned one night stand, C doesn’t believe he can.
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 09:49 AM
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I’d have told her to get bent. Always use a condom, always! Even if you’ve had a modern vasectomy. STDs can be just as bad as unwanted children and there’s no harm in adding extra reassurance. Likewise, if you’re stupid enough not to use barrier contraception correctly during penetrative sex (which IMHO is the least fun method of getting off) then $550 is a cheap price to pay.
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 09:46 AM
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It’s the benefit of mutual filtering that services like Tinder and Bumble offer but it comes with a sting in the tail. So they know that they’re not likely to get a high quality man but they also know that there’s a lot of desperate men out there, so they simply play the numbers game against the ones they’re willing to settle for “on paper” by accepting everyone from perfectly decent or unattainable through to “good enough”. The irony is that this has led to a variant of “pulling a pig” where gu…
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 09:34 AM
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IT is a career path that precludes the idea of a traditional relationship as the overtime, unpredictability and the ability to be paid to “cover extended hours” where 90% of the time you do next to nothing anyway allows for a very simple bachelor lifestyle.
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 09:16 AM
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She’s entitled to sweet FA because most of the royal purse is communal property of the royal family. She doesn’t get a stake in any of it. In fact, she may potentially have more to lose than he does depending on her own net worth,
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 09:11 AM
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As a layperson, from a legal standpoint, that child is Kenyan too and the father in that scenario doesn’t have to respect the UK courts as long as he stays away from Britain - there’s no obligation for him to do so while he is in Kenya. That is why this selfish woman is begging the UK courts for reporting restrictions to be lifted so that she can try and shame him internationally into giving up his own son, rather than simply going over there to see her child. If she cares so much about doing th…
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 09:06 AM
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Feminists: “Women are equal to men, we are more than just baby makers and sex objects!” Single Mothers: “Why don’t men want to date us any more now we have kids? Aren’t we MILF material?” Feminists wanted equality, they got it. Men don’t see women as mere baby makers and sex objects any more, therefore modern egalitarian men will opt for a woman without kids as she’s more often than not objectively better than a woman who’s only real achievement appears on the surface to be “mere baby making”. T…
/r/MGTOW26/08/19 08:38 AM
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Hell yeah mobile citizenship is a very viable option these days! I’m surprised you’re using Google Drive rather than reusing your existing Office 365 though, given the collaboration now “just works” over OneNote, Word, Excel and PowerPoint via Sharepoint - saves money over paying for both lots of service. You might want to use the money you save to invest in Datto or an equivalent for an automated cloud-to-cloud backup or Veeam to download your cloud data and emails back to offline storage - jus…
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 06:25 PM
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It reads like she had a gay guy write the profile for her.
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 06:15 PM
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Unfortunately, MGTOW is not a movement so no-one can join it per se, it’s just a simple lifestyle choice. You’re looking for r/mensrights if you’re after the Men’s Rights Movement, which is somewhat anti-feminist in nature but is considered to be progressive rather than traditional in nature. There’s also r/menslib which is a balance of feminist philosophy and men discussing how they’re being shat on. Also there’s r/theredpill for people who are more angry about the reality of today’s world. If …
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 06:10 PM
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If PUA is a small side hobby alongside say video games and the like, it’s probably not harmful. What is harmful is basing one’s entire value upon one’s ability to get a thot into bed. That’s my only issue with it but even in the early days people talked about “inner game” and the best way to cultivate your own “inner game” is to go your own way IMHO.
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 05:39 PM
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You have to treat it the same way religious folks try to save unbelievers from hell. Do nothing.
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 05:28 PM
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While I agree there are a good number of men who want children of their own, those men do not have to commit to a woman to have a kid! They have the option of legal surrogacy as a single parent. Plenty of children are born to mothers with no legal father on the birth certificate, the exact same scenario is legal for fathers with the financial means who obtain children through medical surrogacy. Besides that, statistics differ about the percentage of men who want children, but enough men don’t wa…
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 04:37 PM
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No.
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 03:42 PM
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A lot of people are telling him to leave but I say ‘keep your friends close and your enemies closer’ in this scenario. If you’ve already fucked up enough to get to this point, the solution is to refuse to get married, check if cohabitation is going to be a legal issue now and if not... then begin damage control. The idea is to keep all finances walled off and hide any increases in income, then start investing privately and focus on having more of a life outside the home, basically GYOW without h…
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 03:21 PM
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I’ve only generally spent the cost of my own expenses which have never been much more than the cost of a taxi or train ride and some fish and chips (or equivalent). On one occasion my expenses included a Travelodge but that was going to a place for fun where sex wasn’t the goal. Why people are so picky about the people they choose to only ever bone once or twice is beyond me. We are talking £20-25 per session on most “dates” (they’re hookups really) except the money is mostly spent on myself and…
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 02:40 PM
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My analysis is that any relationship not originally founded upon a partnership made between two people who consider each other as equals cannot last long term. The exception to the rule might be where someone develops an unexpected life changing health issue after both people are already fully committed as equals but even that seems doubtful with many of the stories posted here.
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 02:18 PM
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It’s not really about that though. It’s also an indirect form of advice to those who want a long term relationship that doesn’t involve cohabitation, marriage or children. Tom Leykis was also a big fan of pointing this out albeit as part of advising men to get married later in life rather than telling them never to get married ever. The gist is that MGTOW can: Sleep around a lot while they’re young, without paying for it (use the CC) Focus on themselves and making their own lives as happy as pos…
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 02:10 PM
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Cheers!
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 01:18 PM
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I sympathise with feminists on this point (albeit there is no literal patriarchy) because there are many unattractive women incels who do end up paying their way in the world (just like us men are expected to) who get even less support in some cases than a man would. It’s just a shame that sex and sexual attraction is such an integral part of a healthy LTR, otherwise some of these women would essentially comprise the majority of the Mythical Unholy Alliance of Rebellious NAWALT Unicorns** ** The…
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 01:17 PM
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She says she doesn’t want people who speak Spanish but her list is written in English, so if you can read/write/speak both English and Spanish she doesn’t want you? She’s an idiot looking for someone who’s idiotic enough to date her. Good strategy that.
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 12:55 PM
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.....and I’m a big one for arguing that the monk path isn’t for all MGTOW. It’s exactly stuff like this which demonstrates that ‘monk is the final form’ as many here often will often say. You’re damned if you and you’re damned if you don’t. At this rate, we’re going to end up with single parent households as the norm, with artificial reproductive measures based upon donated gametes... what a brave new world we are living in.
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 12:50 PM
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Katawa Shoujo is a fantastic free visual novel and game, you should all play it if you don’t know who that character is.
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 12:38 PM
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If you’re doing education in STEM, get your free MSDN access signed off and you’ll get 1 volume license key for Windows 10 Enterprise (and 5 retail keys for every other edition, including home) that you can reuse many times with the only restriction being it’s meant for non-commercial development and testing purposes. I still use my keys to this day because the agreement doesn’t expire when you leave education for keys you’ve already claimed. And man did I claim everything, even DOS 6.22 downloa…
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 10:55 AM
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Replace “cure” with “treatment” because as AI technology, robotics and the dolls themselves improve, the social aspects come into play a bit more. Imagine other non-AI possibilities too, like for instance, being able to have other real people talk through the dolls and remotely control them too, like phone sex but with people thousands of miles away via the Internet. When these kinds of options become available, more successful options for relationships may become more accepted too, like close, …
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 02:08 AM
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Epic. A lot of MGTOW don’t have kids. So I hope he isn’t using the shotgun method of spamming that crap. [Also, Reddit allows auto-blocking of DMs from newly made accounts, use that to stop the majority]
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 01:49 AM
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Yes, you did and all you are doing is redirecting the argument with another argument. That's not addressing the obvious, it's called an ad hominem and obviously you're not doing a good job. That’s not an example of an ad hominem - I’ve not attacked your character by pointing out that you’ve failed to notice something, whether obvious or otherwise. Are you referring to something else I have said other than what’s quoted? I’m genuinely confused here. I will happily apologise for any attack on your…
/r/MGTOW25/08/19 01:42 AM
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No, I did not miss that part. You’re not addressing the obvious. When you break up with her she will likely then go to the state and falsely accuse you of DV or killing the dog yourself - or both. You admitted in your long post which got deleted that this world is gynocentric, so you know the truth. You’re putting morals above practical reality here, the other guys here correctly realise they’re screwed anyway, which is the part you’re missing. Enjoy your hypothetical prison time where you can f…
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 05:01 PM
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There's no need for op-ed content. People want broadsheets, not tabloids and they're discovering all news is fake news because journalists are subject matter experts in the extensive field of nothing.
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 04:50 PM
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Hypothetically, she could falsely accuse you of DV or killing the dog anyway. We're talking about someone batshit crazy here who doesn't care about hurting you to the maximum. So you're likely going to prison either way whether you do anything or not at that point: Leave her calmly = false accusation Stay with her anyway = she kills you next Report for killing dog = false accusation Beat her up a bit = real accusation, nothing gained Kill her (get caught) = prison sentence, she's dead, nothing g…
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 04:46 PM
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This is an incredibly OT thread but I'll humour it anyway from a MGTOW perspective. ​ while you are tricked into a hyperabundance mindset by society the reality is you cant sustain a 1000 girl harem You don't need a harem in a society of hyperabundance, you only need it in a society of complete scarcity. In fact, it's the very fact that there's plenty of abundance in essential resources right now that people don't really need to pair up as couples and form extensive family units to survive. This…
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 03:28 PM
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There's no such thing as a perfect person, man or woman. However, if you do find a girl you like, you can happily enjoy a life with her without having to live in the same house as her and without ever marrying her. If she tries to make you do either of these things, just say no. While you can marry or live with her, you have to understand that if you do she can walk away at any point with half of all the things you've ever acquired throughout your life.
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 02:35 PM
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Women do it because they're happy to make a trade-off of easier access to resources in exchange for a little self-harm! Historically, Belladonna (beautiful lady, the Deadly Nightshade plant) was used by women in Italy to simulate the appearance of arousal by forcibly dialing their pupils. It used to make them blind but it allowed them to trick men by faking the natural appearance associated with true love. In the Victorian era, women used arsenic+chalk mixes to make their skin whiter and reduce …
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 01:38 PM
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I didn't have an experience "with a woman" but I've seen as an outsider the experiences of men and women and determined that moderately successful people should not go all in on a legally binding relationship with a member of the opposite sex because the odds of failure are clearly far greater than the odds of success, while the overall benefits are extremely minor. Low-reward is perfectly OK when we're talking low-risk. But we're talking high-risk, low-reward. We're also talking about a type of…
/r/MGTOW24/08/19 12:30 PM
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But raping shoes are a high-quality, tailored product designed to make him feel right in his prime, when he’s giving chase! Also, think of the disabled! Rape enthusiasts subsidise low margin but high heeled women’s footwear to help make the chase more inclusive for everyone. I’m just not very sure about this Dave.
/r/MensRights23/08/19 09:04 PM
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Everyone should refuse to use Airbnb the same way they should refuse Uber. These aren’t free marketplaces, they’re walled gardens with less safety than well regulated, licensed establishments and far less transparency than an outright unregulated free market would actually offer. Their model is the worst of both worlds and is a complete gamble as to the end result.
/r/MensRights23/08/19 08:55 PM
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Hypothetically, if that was me I’d be thinking to: Find the poison and put it in every alcoholic drink in the house Be sure to leave no forensic evidence behind whatsoever (do it carefully) Stir up an argument, making sure to seriously upset her in every way possible Make sure she outright says why she did it, so she sounds bonkers AF Make sure to have a recording of this in its entirety, released immediately Convincingly suggest I’m going to kill myself (really I will go see family) Throw keys …
/r/MGTOW23/08/19 08:41 PM
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That’s an insult to Paintbrush which actually supported 16 colours without the hideous compression artefacts we see in front of us today
/r/MGTOW23/08/19 08:06 PM
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Someone made a game all about this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FazPFFoTAyM
/r/MGTOW23/08/19 06:15 PM
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It’s usually no children, no cohabitation and no marriage. Only the monks say “no dating” because a “date” means different things to different people. Some of my past “dates” consisted of turning up to receive a free handjob, chatting for a few hours then both going our own merry ways. Pump and dump is still a valid MGTOW strategy because it has no lock-in and no increased burden of responsibility, some people call that dating and some don’t.
/r/MGTOW23/08/19 06:10 PM
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Good, you’ve gone and got yourself a head start toward a successful life. Focus on you and if you ever change your mind you have many many prime years ahead of you in which to safely have no-strings-attaches sexual relationships.
/r/MGTOW23/08/19 05:55 PM
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Actually: Hell is cold, go forth and be bold! We mustn’t stop all thottery! How’s a man gonna pump and dump without paying for it otherwise? ;-p
/r/MGTOW23/08/19 05:50 PM
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Is that before or after I: Apply AppLocker / SRP Add NTFS permission hardening Lock down Run and RunOnce keys Remove Administrator rights Patch all the drivers Remove all the crap Or do you mean when I finally: Say “fuck it” Remove Windows Install CloudReady Add old wallpaper Pretend it’s been upgraded to Windows 10 Either way, not sure what you could ever possibly be alluding to, they treat their machines as well as they do their fellow human. As in perfectly, with love, care and attention dire…
/r/MGTOW23/08/19 05:45 PM
1

You mean ‘cow girls’ aren’t meant to have udders? Oh shi......
/r/MGTOW23/08/19 05:39 PM
1

The ideal prefect is one who doesn’t nag students every time they want to go inside to the use the toilet. Not sure if appearances or anything really matter beyond that.
/r/MGTOW23/08/19 05:35 PM
1

That’s not true for anyone who knows how everything works. We don’t have alimony, we have spousal support payments and fixed financial settlements. In UK law, there’s a statutory minimum amount you’re expected to be able have to live on that can’t be touched, that’s about £25/mo more than what JSA gives you. Therefore anyone stuck with payments can deliberately default at any point by “losing” their job temporarily and claiming jobseekers allowance for just long enough to force any property to b…
/r/MGTOW23/08/19 05:31 PM
4

It’s as much a political movement as cooking your own food or washing your own dishes is! Being a simple, practical choice that works at almost all levels is what makes it unbeatable.
/r/MGTOW23/08/19 05:15 PM
2

Grandfathering applies to legislation enacted by parliament, not a judges interpretation of an existing statute. So it’s complicated. If parliament bans something that was previously legal and you had previously engaged in said activity but ceased at the time of the ban, you’re fine because of grandfathering. For example: If you own a gun and have a permit, a banning of the gun by an act of parliament doesn’t invalidate your existing permit, making the gun still legal for you until the permit is…
/r/MensRights23/08/19 05:04 PM
1

It would halt all payments potentially immediately and grind the system to a halt irrevocably, harming legit mothers in serious ways. Kind of like what happened to the CSA with human rights violation issues being raised neutering their ability to chase payments.
/r/MensRights23/08/19 07:41 AM
2

Well what we do know is that we have a financial settlement in favour of a father from not too long ago against a mother who lied that’s actually in excess of child maintenance payments - fault was admitted: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8130171/man-receives-250k-payout-from-ex-wife-after-dna-test-reveals-he-is-not-the-father-of-her-three-sons-after-21-years/ A judgement that goes against the father is highly unlikely because we have a string of recent cases ruled in the fathers favour under sim…
/r/MensRights23/08/19 07:19 AM
1

The Universities are responding by allowing men to join in with “for Girls” events. This is priceless. All that has to happen now is for enough men to apply for all these events to force the same 50:50 participation they’re trying to engineer and their own hypocrisy would become transparent and illegal. The idea that women’s spaces can be eroded in exactly the same way as spaces which men create is hilarious. It’s that part of the whole concept of equality that many feminists don’t really want t…
/r/MensRights23/08/19 12:08 AM
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Not dangerous, everyone knows the clear cut rules here and there’s no risk of that unless you’ve got matching DNA. Also, another woman had to settle this exact type of case as little has 6 months ago when it looked like she was going to lose badly. The courts have to go extremely careful, if they rule against the man after he proves his case without a well constructed enough reason, they could end up shooting themselves in the foot massively by inviting the political spectre of requiring DNA tes…
/r/MensRights22/08/19 11:45 PM
10

Yep, they often do because they’re idiots. I know one guy who got cucked with a full blown affair where the wife did things on the marital bed, fully dressed up with another man repeatedly, including on cuck’s birthday. Cuck thought he had her trapped. She doesn’t work, he does to keep down a mortgage worth 10x his salary. 5 months after she was caught red handed they had a baby together. She tried to have another recently but failed. He would die if they split up because child maintenance payme…
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 09:17 PM
6

The less wasteful of your own time you get, as you come to understand not only how things came to be but why. That tells you everything about why anything you do that isn’t for you and your immediate peers probably won’t help you much before you die. Less enthusiastic yes, more depressed? No!
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 09:04 PM
1

AWALT is a general rule. There are exceptions to every rule and everyone claims to know the exception but in all honesty you have better odds of winning the lottery than discovering a NAWALT unicorn first time and there’s no way to tell if she is the exception without huge risk if you want children who are biologically yours. So yes, you’re pretty naive for believing NAWALT as your general rule.
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 08:58 PM
2

The look on her face when she realised he still loved her even though she didn’t love him... there are some things money can’t buy!
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 08:51 PM
4

Translation: If we don’t, we won’t have anyone willing to mentor other women anymore AND we will end up like BuzzFeed.
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 08:48 PM
2

So he gets jailed despite only being proven to be biological father after having had sex with her? As sick as it sounds, why is there even a jail sentence if no child was produced as a result and they’re both claiming it’s consensual, when he isn’t legally the parent anyway, only related by genetics? The scientifically driven legal basis for outlawing incest comes from genetic diseases caused by ‘keeping things in the family’ if you have children as a result. That didn’t happen.
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 08:43 PM
3

.....and I thought disco fever era clothing was bad with the whole ‘low cut’ tops for men thing being a little too YMCA. This is full on /b/trapwear.
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 08:32 PM
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Agreed +1 People need to stop assuming we are: Pick Up Artists - some do pump’n’dump but many of us clearly don’t! Men’s Rights Activists - some are but many of us clearly aren’t! That’s why these threads should be freakin’ rare but there’s been a huge uptick lately.
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 08:29 PM
11

Don’t you think it’s amazing that we can commit people who slit their wrists in clearly non-lethal ways, for being at imminent risk of harming oneself or others, yet we see morbidly obese people with signs of depression roaming around freely gorging on massively supersized meals on public transport? I say lock em up isn’t always a bad idea ;-) Let the downvoting commence!
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 08:22 PM
1

Once you start working for larger amounts of money and bonding with others who keep failing to live up to your legend because “happy wife, happy life” you’ll realise that you save time, money and effort over that of what’s needed for a relationship. Relationships are a trade off and most women are not worth that trade off as it stands today because they simply don’t put in their fair share consistently over the long term. The odds of finding your a NAWALT unicorn are that slim that you’re better…
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 08:02 PM
5

I’m in the UK and yeah it’s a lot different here. Child maintenance doesn’t directly involve the courts by default here, you can use DNA evidence to dispute assumed parentage at any point and payments are refunded from the point at which you disputed things (though you have to pay until you prove your point if you were married at the time, if you weren’t and disputed from the beginning, you don’t). You’re only required to pay up to £1000 for the test which the child maintenance service manages a…
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 07:51 PM
7

When a guy is ugly you’re meant to look at his possessions. FTFY
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 07:12 PM
7

If she’s still married while she puts in a claim for child support against the true biological father and they both tell the child the truth about his biological origins the moment they both discover the truth, the court can no longer say it’s in the child’s best interests to not receive child support payments from the real biological father, providing involvement in the child’s life is offered first and the biological father accepts that he is the natural father. It actually changes the conditi…
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 07:07 PM
1

That is what people have been doing using said woman’s name!
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 06:52 PM
3

Or she could have said nothing, aborted the pregnancy and covered it up. What’s in it for her vs. asking for a baby via sperm donation and picking the sperm with the best genetic attributes? In the UK you get a lot of info to play with when deciding.... and she can still make him the father legally.
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 06:50 PM
1

Indeed. It’s a huge gamble that does not pay off for men in over 50% of cases. Truth be told, only 1% of men probably benefit in any way.
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 06:40 PM
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Now is a better time than later though to change things if it isn’t his. He can force her to make the real father pay child support, as she confessed who it is she had the affair with, and if that DNA doesn’t match either, then she’d have some real explaining to do ;-)
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 06:17 PM
3

Easy as pie to fix that with a prepaid Visa card and some cashback while “out with the boys” though. Might take a few goes to keep it under the radar but it’s easy to siphon off a bit of petty cash here and there.
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 06:11 PM
0

If a woman earns as much as you and you’re both on absolutely equal terms, it provides an overall net worth increase while you’re together which is reflected legally, while also securing inheritances that are owed to each party in the event of something bad happening. If your wife earns less or nothing, it can still offer some benefits to a man if she’s completely loyal and not a greedy skank. It offers advantages like: Both being first time buyers on a mortgage while still using the other perso…
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 05:20 PM
1

When everything is done correctly, a wedding results in two individuals combining their overall worth, doubling their value (in contractual negotiations) overall while they are together, in addition to pooling resources to reduce overheads. For two very responsible people who understand the terms and have the blessing of their equally powerful/responsible families, it comes with some fantastic side benefits. That scenario does not reflect the vast majority of the general public. Pro tip: Don’t g…
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 04:56 PM
2

Indeed. It’s about successful families expanding forming partnerships/alliances to the people who use them properly
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 04:46 PM
3

....and people keep talking about this metaphorical line-up of decent men waiting to give her all their money to make her happy #nothappening
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 01:01 PM
13

This has to happen for things to change. Women have to start working and paying their way but there’s only so many jobs to go round until they’re financially equal net contributors to society (on average, as a group) to the same extent that men are today. As MGTOW, we have the advantage because our lives are cheaper to maintain than that of our competition in the present and presumably foreseeable future. All we have to do is: Always stay one step ahead of the competition in practice (experience…
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 12:53 PM
1

[META: Is there any chance we could let the more reasonable variants of these threads live? Pretty please! I love writing huge walls of text packed with statistics and a careful blend of philosophical points! But I can’t do that if I believe the thread is likely to die!]
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 12:09 PM
1

Good. Then perhaps you can campaign with the feminists who reject marriage and the insane attempts by political leaders to force people to lose half their stuff if they even so much as dare to live with a member of the opposite sex as part of a close sexual relationship. One of the biggest reasons why r/MGTOW even exists is because systemic changes keep being made which are designed to penalise people who “do the right thing” in order to help those who don’t want to do their fair share. This iss…
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 11:59 AM
1

Just like a feminist should be someone who fights for the equality of both sexes, in theory. Is that true in practice for the majority of vocal feminists? I will let you be the judge.
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 11:36 AM
1

No, they have always been batshit over here. Look at David Icke, he promoted the idea that reptilian aliens hold all the seats of power and use shapeshifting to mask their true identities. He also seemed to share the fashion sense of the late Jimmy Saville.
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 11:23 AM
1

What you’re describing makes you not a typical gentleman. I hope you realise that. The reason why r/pussypassdenied exists is because more and more men are giving up on being the typical gentleman. The typical gent will put women on a pedestal and look after them in ways that men often don’t look after other men. Thankfully that’s coming to an end.
/r/MGTOW21/08/19 11:14 AM
0

I thought it was all myrrh
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 07:31 PM
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Look around you, what’s happening right now? They’re trying to double down and are ending up in poverty as a result. They’re having to work more and they HATE it but they haven’t even gone all in yet. Women’s employment rate (age 16-64) is at an all-time high in the UK, at 71%, but women make up 60% of employees on low pay and 73% of part-time workers as of 2018. The ones who banked on dual mating and using the state as an alternative, they got shafted even worse! Almost half of single-parent ho…
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 07:18 PM
6

As an introvert without any exciting hobbies she should try the local library or a Games Workshop (they do Warhammer) or The Rift (Yu-Gi-Oh / Pokemon). She could also try museums, charitable fraternity groups which accept women like the Rotary Club, her local community centre events or the like too. But NOT a freakin’ gym where everyone is either focusing on themselves or is naturally extroverted. Silly girl.
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 06:05 PM
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Indeed. The whole thing reeks of market manipulation. They even indirectly win if people remain single as a result, since a greater number of people will need to buy things they’d otherwise share communally within a family unit. Plus they win from people seeking legal advice to draw up legal opt-out agreements - which can again be thrown out by judges just like prenups.
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 05:48 PM
2

Do what I’m about to do. Go for a nice long walk in the woods and relax. Seriously, start with the basics and work from there.
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 02:25 PM
2

My bet is 8 years, as that’s the average for someone who’s been with someone else for this long,
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 02:19 PM
3

That’s the UK where if he opts to look after the child she has to pay him child maintenance relative to her income without factoring his in whatsoever by default! Since his work is all from home and she’s piggybacking off him... not gonna work out so well for her that, Also, spousal support payments don’t apply on a 50:50 split when one has that much money. They just want you to divide assets and walk away in most cases. He’s still stupid for marrying either way, since she can take half his stuf…
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 02:18 PM
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Mothers always come first. A mother is for life (till death do us part) but a wife is objectively speaking, a temporary affair in half of all cases. Only a complete idiot would put their wife first.
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 01:01 PM
1

PArt 2 - I went over the maximum length of a comment! ​ TLDR: Men in their essence were made to be free, and mgtow is the modern version of men reseting to their roots. Only this time we dont have a new continent to go to. Men thrive without women, it is a fact. Cohabitation ruins your health and turns you into a shadow of your former self, even if she is a unicorn. Men were made to be free, and they are stronger that way. But that doesnt mean you cant have sex. Sex is different than cohabitatio…
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 12:59 PM
1

I'm loving this difference in perspective. I won't go through every line, or this thread would start balloon at an exponential rate. However, there's some gems in here that I still want to discuss: ​ This i didnt understand. Before you said this you also assumed men want to have a family and children even though you agreed that men are more happy single. I still agree that men are more happy single but what we also know is that humanity is naturally tribal too and it's that instinct which create…
/r/MGTOW20/08/19 12:59 PM
3

I totally agree with you on that but being Dwayne ‘The Rock’ Johnson without restrictions does make you Chad. He cheated on an older woman to trade up for a pre-wall younger one without any real short or long-term consequences, do you think your typical married betas have that opportunity?
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 11:37 PM
5

I 100% agree. Which is why MGTOW is the better option in the majority of scenarios right now and will remain unchallenged until either there’s a carrot dangled in front of us or the threat of a massive pointy stick, I’m not holding out much hope for a big juicy carrot any time soon!
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 10:34 PM
1

The problem is that because enough women like to show off, when combined with a constant bombardment of artificially sexualised imagery, men are now becoming desensitised to the naturally attractive sexual cues given off by the less show-offy women. This causes problems with legitimate relationships being formed based upon qualities which have nothing to do with sex and hormones, due to men not “feeling” as much natural chemistry anymore while getting to know someone on a deep and personal level…
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 10:19 PM
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It says they cheat to “save their marriages” it’s 100% honest and accurate if you interpret it the way they do. They don’t cheat to save their relationships, they cheat to save their marriages. Think about the distinction between a marriage and a relationship. Think about what a marriage really is... then try and tell me she’s not wrong. For those who still don’t get what I mean. Imagine you’re a woman and you just don’t click with your partner but you enjoy having them do all the hard work for …
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 09:58 PM
3

But is she enjoying the sex? If she isn't, she's fucked. Mr. Beta doesn't make her tingle down there, he's only good as a provider. She doesn't really want that, sexually speaking. Bad sex is worse than no sex. If you've ever had a girl give you a terrible handjob or get toothy with a blowie, you'll know what I mean. Women don't like bad sex either.
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 09:30 PM
4

Two things to remember here: 1) Both hot men and hot women always get a free pass, regardless. This is universal. 2) If she's with someone who she doesn't enjoy the sex with she's still fucked! ​ If you meet a woman and you don't enjoy the sex she's offering or have the right chemistry, are you going to go back for more? No? That's because you're not fucked! You're not desperate enough to settle for something less than what you really want sexually. Single mothers (who aren't MILF material) will…
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 09:26 PM
5

Oh ho ho, now we have an interesting debate going! :-D ​ Marriage, monogamy and monotheism all come from scarcity of resources and space. Naturally men do not seek to form a family, but to have sex as much as they can. As you have abundance, you will naturally start focusing in achieving and developing yourself further, instead of forming a family as a coping mechanism or a desperate attempt in life to finding meaning and illusions of safety. This is true, however, when women commit to their fai…
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 09:02 PM
3

They don't have problems going starfish, they just have problems finding pleasurable sex instead. They end up getting all the desperate simps who can't get them tingly, so they chase after material possessions hoping that it can somehow bring them to "live the dream" instead.
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 08:08 PM
2

Start with a bank account, some savings and some predictable returns based on interest. Then factor in inflation as most stable investments don't give the returns you think they do. Learn the basics of economics before you even start. Also, read below and you'll never need to ask anyone else for investment advice - trust me! Everything I'm about to discuss is quantifiable and will help you long before you start playing with your spare money. ---- ​ Buy non-consumable products that last you a lon…
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 08:02 PM
3

Same. That's gonna be fun to have in my feed
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 06:38 PM
3

I was handed a plain text copy of this when I was 8. I'm sure I still have it somewhere, along with the batch files I used to write as a kid.
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 06:33 PM
-2

He didn't kill that zygote/embryo/fetus... no there's definitely no blood on his hands, no matter what he believes. He can and should walk away with a clean conscience. If she terminated the pregnancy prior to 9 weeks, scientists might be able to calm his soul on this one, I dunno.
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 06:27 PM
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Dwayne isn't a simp, he's a Chad and a terrible example for us to use: He cheated on his previous wife (Dany) with Lauren in 2006 At that point, he was already a father and fully locked in Dany divorced him in 2007 without screwing him over in court He kept more than what he was entitled to amicably He agreed to pay child support if she paid a portion into a trust fund The whole thing to this day has been amicable and they both help each other out His role in Baywatch was an arrangement for them…
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 05:52 PM
4

If you’re talking about apps like Tinder and Bumble then yes they do because: The Tinder model requires a mutual match to be able to proceed (matching criteria on both ends) The Bumble model requires women to select you and their criteria count too (similar to Tinder) However, faking your age to be younger would lock you out of trying for older women who don’t want younger men, which is a very important consideration to keep in mind. (There is, however, the ethical implications of lying. Don’t l…
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 05:08 PM
14

The age ranges impact the results the most. To put it simply, it works when you're younger (16-25) and it all gets very poor around the 28-40 mark. Services like POF still work for younger people, believe it or not. You just have to be willing to hook up rather than go for proper relationships. ​ The reason why the 28-40 mark tends to suck is because the encounter rate increases for the following: Single mothers with one or more children Usually unemployed if the children are young Have no hobbi…
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 04:54 PM
9

Because it's women, they have a whole different definition for each term in that subreddit: red pill = atypical values (whether "christian" or egalitarian) alpha = breadwinner/provider (the beta is the one who earns less) ​ It may not be a troll. Loads of women in there consider their tradcon relationships to be "red pilled" ones.
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 04:45 PM
2

If she'd have drawn on it, it might have been a bit funny... but that was unnecessary and overkill...
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 04:11 PM
5

There is a post of her from yesterday, where she literally looks to be still 5'2, but 220 pounds EASY at her BRIDAL SHOWER. The same guy has dated her for the last 9 years, and has seen her gain at least 100 pounds over that time, but is still going to marry her? What the fuck is wrong with some people? So happy I'm single. There's only one thing wrong with him, the fact he's willing to marry someone. Nothing wrong with loving someone who's overweight/underweight/obese/anorexic. There's plenty w…
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 04:02 PM
2

It all varies from state to state - the US is a completely unregulated shitshow and the Feds should get involved. As of 2017, any state which adopts the updated Uniform Parentage Act protects men and women provided that a registered doctor is used at a purpose-built licensed clinic using a recognised artificial insemination process. There has be the donor him/herself and two people present (intended parents) signing to become the legal parents following conception. Any medical center which screw…
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 03:52 PM
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MGTOW is winning because the penny has just dropped that someone has to be responsible for all these fantastic rights to actually serve a functional purpose in practice. But there's no reason to want to. The MSM can't subjugate us as long as they're left-leaning, it really is that simple. To try and subjugate us in their current state, they'd have to claim two mutually-exclusive stances: That we are very right wing and traditionalist and simply upset that times have changed That we are bad becau…
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 03:09 PM
3

The official clinical sperm donation system in the UK prevents this by law. To cite a relevant source, if you donate sperm through a Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority (HFEA) licensed clinic, you will not: be the legal parent of any child born have any legal obligation to any child born have any rights over how the child will be brought up be asked to support the child financially be named on the birth certificate If you use an unlicensed clinic to donate sperm, you will be the legal f…
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 02:32 PM
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Don't forget the female equivalents: 40+ single and infertile = fucked 18+ and single mother = fucked 34-39 with baby rabies = fucked 32+ a known town bike = fucked Appeared on talk show = fucked ​ No amount of validation can fix this, as is evident by most of Tinder consisting of the above. Men start to get all the advantages in their 30s while the women start to lose them all. The laws of nature trump the tenets of feminism ;-)
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 02:14 PM
3

....and this is why people shouldn't bother! One can't even make a joke anymore. ​ Insta-thoughts for thots: "So is it true then? That men are from Mars and women are from Venus?" "I swear I saw a film where you were the teacher... I think it's called Iron Sky" "Maybe it's just the lighting... but is that what they call a Space Tan?" " Justin has me hostage.... my freedom Hinges upon making you cringe! HELP MEEEE!"
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 01:30 PM
24

Minimise your expenses in the first instance with smart planning full stop. Then you can reduce the hours you work and live a longer life - when you're working, you're not really living. Also here's a list of things you can do if you're British that require minimal effort as a starting point: Salary Sacrifice - employer writes off purchases for things you want against salary, you both pay less tax Keep to lower tax rates by pumping petrol mileage, maintenance costs etc. through your employer Cla…
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 12:37 PM
1

For ultimate privacy: Don’t use Windows, at all Force all Internet traffic through a VPN Use uMatrix and block every third party content type by default Per-application endpoint firewall even using Linux Turn off all safety features like Safe Browsing Lists and such (they query google servers) Change to using DNS-over-HTTPS using a non-logging DNS server that blocks advertisers Implement a caching DNS server too so that queries only occur once in a blue moon Keep your web browser window maximise…
/r/MGTOW19/08/19 08:12 AM
5

Customs at any country can and do, not every time but seemingly at random; they can deny entry for any reason, so if they ask for access it’s not worth refusing. The US is no exception. You’re always better off having a clean set of devices where you can when travelling, not just because of border searches but also if your luggage goes missing there’s less risk to you and your data.
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 09:27 PM
7

Generic advice I give to business people working with sensitive data: Wipe your phone and then restore it from a remote server over WiFi after. For your laptop, I’d just take a replacement HDD/SSD and have the original in a box in hand luggage (after removing the partition table, which can be restored with testdisk).
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 09:19 PM
2

If the community has any sense they’ll make her less employable than a previously convicted rapist.
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 08:53 PM
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Nah. Let her rationalise it any way she wants, those words were for his benefit, not hers.
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 08:45 PM
2

Never heard of any of those. Good question!
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 08:27 PM
4

I literally just recommended she go MGTOW ;-) I wonder how she’ll respond
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 08:25 PM
2

You should indeed go your own way, work hard, pay your own bills and enjoy your own life. You absolutely shouldn’t marry a man or live with one. I genuinely mean this, you’re better off just doing what you want with men on your own terms while living your own independent life. Its the best way.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy18/08/19 08:23 PM
1

Why does r/DIY discuss projects if people are meant to be doing it all themselves hurr durr!
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 08:17 PM
3

Feminism means equality for women so that means they’d have to fight for themselves. After all, recent times have shown that veterans just get shat on and discarded, so there’s no reason for men to want to bother any more. Men with guns can easily defend their own chunk of land without caring about the rest,
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 08:14 PM
1

It’s fine, just don’t get married, live with her or have kids with her. You’re still a MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 07:58 PM
2

He’s talking about the UK porn ban. See my other comment for more info.
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 07:28 PM
3

For reference, the UK plans to block porn on the Internet by default and make people obtain access via age checks and/or porn passes. However, one can simply use a VPS service to run a proxy or VPN in order to circumvent this as there’s no actual filter in place, it’s enforced at the porn company end who will do the bare minimum to comply. It’s a porn company called MindGeek that created and will run the AgeID system used to police it. The same company offers VPNhub which will allow you to circu…
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 07:28 PM
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They're right. It's now a shell of its former self, a thoroughly corrupt political movement that serves the needs of free-market capitalism NOT the needs of women. ​ Fourth-wave feminism has occupied itself with making men’s and women’s experiences—both the personal and the professional—the same. It actually serves my needs as a man far more than it serves the needs of most women. In fact, it penalises men who believe the innocent fairy tales of their youth, while rewarding men over the age of 2…
/r/MensRights18/08/19 06:46 PM
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Women do not buy higher quality products. They buy crap quality, harmful products and promote other pointless garbage among themselves, examples include: Make-up products Primer Foundation Blusher Mascara Eye shadows False eyelashes False eyebrows Mustache removal cremes ​ Haircare Oils Dyes Highlights False extensions ​ Skincare Moisturisers Skin bleaching products Whole body depilatories More oils.... ​ Dentistry Teeth whitening Invisalign braces Veneers Unnecessary fillings ​ Supplements Too …
/r/MensRights18/08/19 05:59 PM
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Only a little to go towards cheap PS2 games and savings at the time >_>
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 04:59 PM
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These aren't MGTOW-specific but would fix the problem as it stands without harming the taxpayer. All of these will save money over other policies, while improving health and lowering taxes, due to statistical gaming. This approach will also do away with alimony while encouraging responsible behaviour. It's a mix between traditionally non-libertarian Conservative and very hard-left Liberal policy making. I hope you'll enjoy! Advantages: Makes life fairer on betabux, punishes irresponsible Chads b…
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 02:51 PM
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I'm a WGTOW. You know Strong, Independent, don't need no man, like a fish doesn't need a bicycle. More women should genuinely maintain independence and not rely upon men for anything. After all, 85% of consumer purchases come from women. It's about time 100% of those purchases came from money that women earn through work! To me, a woman who earns her keep and pays her own way without state intervention or loans is very attractive!
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 01:36 PM
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I've been interested in the MGTOW movement for some time especially from 2011 when I first encountered the term and also the pick-up artists movements. It's not a movement. ​ Going my own way, would imply just hooking up with hookers in the end, because I am trying to quit men . No, it means don't get married, have kids or enter legally binding cohabitation. Shag as many men or women as you want, just do it safely! ​ I see around me couples which actually save and plan a future togheter, support…
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 01:29 PM
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If I were in his shoes I'd probably start dealing in cannabis and hiding the illicit income from her as bitcoin or something. Given she's basically cheating on him daily with other men, he might as well position himself with FWBs to move on with.
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 01:04 PM
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Yes. Wasn't harmed prior to hearing of MGTOW as the descriptive term for the stance and am still unharmed today. Have always been anti-marriage and always intended to remain childfree from a very young age.
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 12:57 PM
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Confession time: I'm definitely part of the problem. When I was a young teenager, I used to use The GIMP to manually retouch the photos of all the less attractive girls to give them better chances at online dating, within a good 35-45 minutes I'd have a complete set of profile pics ready and a very carefully worded profile designed to create LTR opportunities. By the time I left my teenage years I was already going my own way anyway, so karma isn't really going to catch up with me on that one! F…
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 12:54 PM
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I believe the upper 49% of successful men are already MGTOW and that at least the upper 20% of (successful) women take an equivalent approach. It's just that most people don't associate simple common sense with "going their own way" and do not believe the term correlates with the approach they're already taking due to misinformation spread by those with vested interests. Besides, believe it or not, we MGTOW benefit from the simp farming. They make our lives easier, economies of scale from their …
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 12:38 PM
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Sounds like you got yourself a keeper, just remember to GYOW: Don't get married - it's bad for both of you (just promise to be monogamous without it) Don't enter any legally binding cohabitation (stay together, don't be legally registered as such) You should both do your equal hours of both housework and employed work Do that and you can't go wrong, even if you do find her true egalitarianism repulsive to your trad sensibilities ;-)
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 12:15 PM
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....and that's why I'm a big fan of automation. Most electronic systems don't require AI to be more efficient than human-driven ones. One day I'm going to make a website/app to allow people to rate services/products based upon how little human interaction is necessary to use them. Unless I'm establishing a permanent business relationship with someone, it's all redundant nonsense and simply acts as a barrier which gets in the way of what I want to purchase, obtain, use, consume or resell. That ap…
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 12:08 PM
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You're already taking the right kinds of steps by the sounds of things. Helping others is one of the best ways to connect with people who will help you find your new purpose in life. Ultimately, you still get to decide what that is but it's not a journey you have to travel alone. What are your passions, hobbies and other things you like to do? There are going to be some things you used to do that life responsibilities previously got in the way of. You're now free to do a lot of those things agai…
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 11:43 AM
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That’d actually make MGTOW a unisex concept, if one believes in internalised misogyny... It’s quite funny how it’s empowering for women to refuse marriage but bad for men to want to do the same...
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 10:14 AM
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OP, consider yourself lucky. Go forth and be fruitful with other women instead. Just don’t make any unwanted children and don’t get married! Simples.
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 10:11 AM
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They’re scared it could happen to them, so it’s understandable. Miss Piggy was heralded for being a fat feminist pig for many years and now she’s been dumped for someone a little more normal.
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 10:04 AM
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How is it more so a compromised defeat? Compared to what? Hookers are usually economically cheaper than traditional relationships, unless your time isn’t worth much to you. The only thing cheaper than a hooker is a hook-up, which only works out reliably when you target women below the age of 30. After that, female nature mixed with biology makes them want to go after an LTR. As you get older, there’s often more risks and barriers involved in targeting younger women for random hookups compared to…
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 10:01 AM
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All you will find on Tinder and POF right now are single mothers, women with mental issues and thots who use it for ego-tripping - to put it simply, you’re looking at the mostly cursed female age range when you use those services at your current age. Instead. this is definitely the point in your life where you should be focusing on you at all times, aiming to maximise your wealth, health and happiness. If you focus on yourself rather than chasing after women, you’ll automatically win out over ev…
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 09:34 AM
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Your statement makes no sense. If you’re talking about liars and cheats then why wouldn’t you want them to date douchebags? The only way that would make sense is if you’re a douchebag! If you’re not a douchebag then you should be somewhat grateful that they’re falsely accusing them and not you! My stance is simple: The #MeToo women can date anyone they freaking want as long as they stay away from me!
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 09:01 AM
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Make this a post too
/r/MGTOW18/08/19 05:48 AM
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Amen brother! Mary Jane is the one true NAWALT!
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 11:07 PM
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Don’t. Just starve them of attention.
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 10:30 PM
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Mystery Men - it has some women in it but their roles are minor
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 10:29 PM
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Three basic rules: Don’t marry her, don’t have kids with her and don’t enter into any legally binding living arrangements with her. Simples. The rest is all up to you and you can reciprocate the attention she’s giving you. You don’t have to be like a monk. It’s called going your own way for a reason. It’s probably a good idea to avoid personal relations with female work colleagues but other than that, you’re not at a very high risk of wallet-rape by having friendly relationships if you stick to …
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 10:24 PM
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That is indeed very commendable and very rare. That’s what people often refer to as the NAWALT, an exception to the AWALT rule. The fact that you’ve noticed this indicates just how bad things have generally become.
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 10:18 PM
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Imagine the survival of all that business if most men were MGTOW and didn't drink the love kool-aid. Women are responsible for ~85% of all consumer purchases. So as long as women drink the kool-aid, they'll be fine. Also, love is only one of many universal emotions which are used to sell products to you. There's also fear, anger, sadness, joy, disgust, surprise... and many others which are equally as useful in the hands of a skilled marketer/manipulator/propagandist.
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 08:17 PM
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You know what makes even more sense? How you realise that you spend the entire video game adaptation (Dune 2000) under the control of a woman who betrayed her empire to escape a relationship she didn't want. If you didn't realise that the first time, play the freeware Dune 2000 GruntMods Edition that's a patched version of the original commercial release updated for modern PCs - you'll see the hidden agenda in some of the playable campaign routes.
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 07:59 PM
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If the majority of women were real trash, this sub wouldn't exist - but they're not real trash. One man's trash is another man's treasure, as they say. Not everyone is compatible and the odds of finding a compatible partner aren't that great. That's not the issue. Enough women are fake trash these days to ruin things for everyone, we don't want to marry, cohabitate or have kids with fakers. However, how does one tell fake trash apart from real trash? It's all trash! This subreddit is not misogyn…
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 07:48 PM
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I ignore/disregard random, small compliments from people I don't know :-| Do other random strangers actually appreciate this?
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 07:14 PM
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Most wouldn’t. The laws aren’t the issue here. The issues are: Rampant consumerism (greed) Unequal/unfair expectations Rampant infidelity (and trust issues) Terrible traditions in the first place Impatience and a lack of appreciation MGTOW protects you by giving you independence and safer options for maintaining relationships with women beyond the legal risks. Nobody should give that up. Besides, traditional dating should have died the moment “friend zone” became a popularly accepted term. The f…
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 05:37 PM
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Agreed we should have solid support resources for men easily accessible, both emotional and practical.
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 05:19 PM
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A soon-to-launch offshoot of Bumble, Bumble Bizz, which is going live in September, is another tool aiming to give women a more equal proportion of control – this time in their careers. The entire article exists to promote a new business networking service which deliberately discriminates against men. But that isn't the most glaring problem with it. It uses photo verification to ensure someone looks like they claim to be but does not perform any web-of-trust or formal verification of actual skil…
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 05:06 PM
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Absolutely. This is what everyone should be doing. If you're good at what you do and it's a job that not everyone can be 'good enough' at - you will always be in demand.
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 04:22 PM
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You clearly have the capacity to love people deeply. Have you thought of volunteering or charity work? The joy you'd bring to others might make you feel differently about your own sense of purpose in life.
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 03:58 PM
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So now they don't have a legally binding relationship, he's off the hook for marriage/common-law and he can now shag anyone he wants? He successfully obtained a GFE/LTR without screwing himself over. As long as he keeps all his finances, assets and property to himself and doesn't spend any more money on her - he's doing what a MGTOW would do. Your friend isn't actually getting cucked if he's playing the game right; what's actually happening is she's putting in a high-stakes investment where your…
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 03:55 PM
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Title is inaccurate, should be: Lucky man simped sentimentally and is now off the hook for life
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 03:37 PM
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We dated for a few years and then got married. After getting married, we moved to his home town in a different country. Translation: He's wise to what his own countrywomen are like and dated foreign to avoid a mess... ​ I was just not feeling satisfied or fulfilled in the relationship. I just craved some independence and felt that my ex was holding me back. So she had no reason to leave him other than that she didn't want him anymore, he did nothing wrong whatsoever but wanted to hop back on the…
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 03:35 PM
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Later that evening, after the Times reporter has left the event, Solomon texts her an update. It’s a picture of a young man with a shiny brown beard and thick black-framed glasses. “Look who showed up,” she writes. “28-year-old Brandon A. Then he invited another friend and we had drinks at Sausal.” She’s referring to a restaurant down the street that left coupons next to the cheese plate that night. The rest ended up with bugger all judging by the wording. That's hilarious.
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 02:45 PM
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This is a real thing too not just a cultural expression. There are peer reviewed studies on ikigai.
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 02:32 PM
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When sex dolls become cheap enough and interactive enough to replace the real thing, the very final sector of work that many "empowered" women found a safe haven in (the service sector) will also be killed off - because an AI that can handle the cocktail of emotions found within sexual relations could also handle first-line customer service incidents. They'd all better learn to code and start DIYing like the small percentage of women in STEM are already doing. This is what feminists asked for: m…
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 02:28 PM
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Not sure but I will say this.. He worked from home an awful lot, so nothing stopped her from working or having her own career, at all. She didn't actually sacrifice anything in that regard because she never had anything to sacrifice in the first place.
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 02:07 PM
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Feminists didn't invent the word 'gentleman' and they didn't rubber stamp it. Don't be silly. The word predates them. Gentleman (or lady) is the highest title/name you can refer to people by generically that isn't a reserved title among the gentry. For someone who's not of noble origins it is somewhat complimentary and for peers of the nobility or those with a formal title among the gentry it's the lowest common denominator that's acceptable to use. It's straight up not an insult, unless you're …
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 01:56 PM
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Here's an update: As OP had deleted her post on LegalAdviceUK, I found her updated divorce post before she asked for help. If you want the two months prior story instead, go here. This one has some differences, including age gap. ​ I had quit working in Software design 18 years ago as he was constantly moving for work. Fine I will raise the kids, keep the houses, plan the moves, every day life etc... He must have had a much better job or that would NOT have happened, this job was when she was in…
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 01:00 PM
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Sucks, doesn't it? However, the story is still up in a different form. This time with the age gap being a bit different and some odd alternative details... If you want the two months prior story instead: https://www.reddit.com/r/Divorce/comments/bzyp6w/update_for_those_interested_my_f55_husband_m52/
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 12:27 PM
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WARNING: I am not a lawyer. These techniques are proven to work in many but not all cases. At your own risk, speak to a decent lawyer, not a typical one. She's got her private life, now it's time to build up yours. Don't accept the informal divorce offer - make her initiate and deny all knowledge of anything she's saying until things are put in writing by her. You want to stall her for as long as possible - once papers are filed, you're screwed. During this time there are a whole load of things …
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 12:05 PM
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My analysis as an English citizen: ​ I still rarely hear from him. Usually through texts from my daughter They raised a family together, he's still in regular contact with the (presumably all grown up by now) kids. He wants nothing to do with his soon to be ex-wife. ​ I had to leave because of UK immigration law and the fact he put a 30 day vacate notice on our house. I was six months away from having my FLR visa. If she was working the whole time she could have applied for right to remain at th…
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 09:37 AM
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..and I took my time to make a non-spoiler response... LOL!
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 08:23 AM
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Or maybe they built a baby nines together from spare bodies inspired by the remains of "the king" after #spoileryspoilers with final credits.... ;-)
/r/MGTOW17/08/19 08:22 AM
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Is that 2B? :O
/r/MGTOW16/08/19 08:02 PM
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What type of socialism? Social democracy is capitalism plus a crap ton more social safety benefits (universal healthcare, free higher education etc.) designed to offer a “nobody gets left behind” approach while allowing true entrepreneurship and less regulation. This isn’t necessarily harmful. Bernie Sanders claimed to espouse these ideals (he’s a huckster though really) even though he accidentally said he believes in democratic socialism! Loads of European countries use this model and still pro…
/r/MGTOW16/08/19 07:49 AM
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Women know the truth but they’re better at hiding it...
/r/MGTOW15/08/19 09:31 PM
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Life is what you make it my friend, you give it your own meaning and you’ll find your own answers. Some guys here have loved and lost everything but their pets - but found solace. Others have never bothered and are living the dream anyway, If you’re looking for answers, stick around and see what makes you feel more inspired. A lot of folks here post a lot of interesting ideas about things to do or try out, you never know you might find the answers you’re looking for that way,,, or they might fin…
/r/MGTOW15/08/19 09:25 PM
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I'm hoping she thinks that's a funny bio and doesn't realise other women seriously make those demands all the time. Beggars can't be choosers.
/r/MGTOW15/08/19 09:09 PM
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That's fine and is extremely prudent. If she didn't make the comment to her friend and simply refused the drink, there would have been no problem at all. She also had every opportunity to say that she's being cautious because that's her approach in general and that she doesn't distrust him personally but is like this with everyone when they're serving alcoholic beverages. What she did instead was openly invite others to scrutinise his innocent actions, then she proceeded to openly suggest (with …
/r/MGTOW15/08/19 09:02 PM
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He's definitely NTA. I wouldn't entertain a guest in my own house seriously implying that I'm a rapist/killer either. ​ When I put her drink in front of her, she looked at it, then to her friend beside her and asked "did you watch him make it?" Her friend goes "no, I was talking" or something. She had the option to openly say "No thanks" directly to him without even giving a reason. As she never asked for it, the reason for refusal would be an implicit "I don't want it". She's a designated drive…
/r/MGTOW15/08/19 08:31 PM
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....probably because we know that marketing is just another form of emotional manipulation. If a sexy woman trying to "work your imagination" can't appeal to your innate sense of "manliness", how is some blonde-haired dude selling a bar of soap?
/r/MGTOW15/08/19 07:01 PM
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No spoofs here. Findom (financial domination) is where, in practice, men essentially receive personalised videos where a woman will often tease/humiliate in exchange for pledging constant monetary donations. It's basically highly interactive porn that's personalised by someone who "rewards" you for paying tribute - through giving up hard earned money. Sometimes this is done by the man paying money and sometimes it's through remote access to bank accounts (scary). To those who are into it, my ini…
/r/MGTOW15/08/19 06:53 PM
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Failing an A-Level is fine. Just pick a subject that’s close to what you planned to study and BTEC National it while you’re under 19. It’s going to cost you <£600 for year 2 on that arrangement and you’ll walk away with more UCAS points than everyone else - putting you at an advantage over many other A-Level students unless you’re after the posh wanker places! However, I can confirm that Uni is only the icing on the cake for someone who already has experience when applied to a lot of fields of w…
/r/MGTOW15/08/19 07:51 AM
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As someone who’s perfectly fine with gay pride events and even the fetish scene, I still side with neither. Corporations should refrain from taking political stances just as much as an employee should keep their personal views to themselves - the same goes for sponsoring charities which espouse political views. A company supporting gay pride one moment could just as easily be supporting discrimination against gay people in the very next instance by donating to The Salvation Army around Christmas…
/r/MGTOW14/08/19 11:40 PM
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She rapes you. That’s why she’s called the rapist
/r/MGTOW14/08/19 10:31 PM
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Get paid to jack off to porn and also never have to work again? No brainer.
/r/MGTOW14/08/19 09:06 PM
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They’re terms that help describe levels of awareness for people discussing social situations involving interpersonal relations. It’s no different to saying someone’s a noob or a pro when discussing social situations involving video games really. Remember what going your own way actually means and it makes sense.
/r/MGTOW14/08/19 08:58 PM
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They’re strong and independent, just like us MGTOW...... heheheheheheheheheheheheh!
/r/MGTOW14/08/19 08:48 PM
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What happens when women become what men hate? If the overwhelming majority of women were already what men liked, this subreddit would probably be empty.
/r/MGTOW14/08/19 08:23 PM
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You had me in the first half! O_o
/r/MGTOW14/08/19 07:37 PM
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Men should referee men-only events. Simple as that. If you’re going to mix the sexes, then let’s make the sport itself unisex and have players be chosen based on their merit not their genitalia! Any guesses as to what the outcome would be if we did that?
/r/MGTOW14/08/19 07:53 AM
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Yes for real! I have the degree to show for it! Also, if you live in Scotland the tuition is actually free (if you go to a Scottish university) so one could simply live with parents, use the local uni rather than moving and pay nothing in that scenario. Students have it easy.
/r/MGTOW14/08/19 07:45 AM
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Much love brother! It’s almost like we’ve found the cheat code to life, who’d have thought it’d be this simple? Where’s the catch? There isn’t one! (ba dum tss!) Want power/responsibility? Go for it! Want a simple, easy, carefree life? You got it! You are your own idol, your own master of the realm and your own standard of existence. You have only one life, so make it a decent, fun, interesting, exciting but trouble-free one where you can!
/r/MGTOW14/08/19 07:32 AM
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Ask a woman personal questions at work = sexual harassment Refuse to ask a woman personal questions = exclusionary behaviour (Sourced from the United Nations: https://www.un.org/womenwatch/osagi/pdf/whatissh.pdf)
/r/MGTOW14/08/19 12:21 AM
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My advice A decent boss you can trust can “fire you” while you live off savings if papers have not yet been served and she’s only just saving up now. Simply don’t tell her your income is now dead, then use equity release if the house is in your name only to try and get some cash to play with, then pay her the $1000/mo anyway and stall the heck out of her for as long as possible (try for at least one whole tax year). By the time shes set up to leave you, she should actually have plenty saved and …
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 11:41 PM
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That pretty much sums up your typical modern day feminism. Men enjoying sex with women = rape Men refusing sex with women = misogyny Men looking at women = sexual harassment Men not looking at women = sexual discrimination Men holding a door open for women = patriarchy Men not holding a door open for women = misogyny Men buying women gifts = buying her affection Men not buying women gifts = unappreciative Men having sex on the first date = pressuring her Men refusing sex on the first date = judg…
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 10:59 PM
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Hahaha.. at best you’re only getting leasehold... but then you’re still responsible for the repairs and the insurance!
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 10:48 PM
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I’m reading between the lines and analysing what’s in the post. At what point did I say we should believe women? Let alone all the time? What I’m saying is there’s nothing suggesting she’s extorting anyone and nothing to indicate she’s doing anything that could be construed as morally wrong (short of borrowing money if you don’t believe in credit), yet she’s describing a situation that many men could easily find themselves in. There are enough women out there who are truly awful that we should b…
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 10:41 PM
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..but if she makes false accusations to get you fired from your job, at least your jobseekers paper is 75% recycled and slightly softer!
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 10:03 PM
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I agree, the best prenup is to vow to never go nuptial in the first place! IANAL but I've done a fair bit of research. In England, you're pretty safe if she doesn't have a proper set of 'master' keys to your house (only a non-cloneable spare), has no bills in her name, no permanent car parking permit, no contracts signed with your address on them, no benefits claimed there and is never ever registered through electoral roll or census. She's a visitor not a lodger and definitely not a tenant. You…
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 09:59 PM
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I like Putin's indirect honesty there "as an honest man" when he knows he's anything but. He's my favourite world leader.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 09:08 PM
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What I would put: ​ She told me she is not ready to live together and wanted me to rent a separate place, she said she would stay often at my place but wanted to keep her own too. Given this reaction, I didn't want to move there anymore, instead she insisted that she wanted me to move, but in a separate house. So she wants to go her own way and keep control of her own living situation. She's a wise lady. That's exactly what you should be doing too. Why even consider getting an inferior job just …
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 09:01 PM
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The second world war also featured erotic dancers who acted as spies against the Nazis both in France and in Germany (via Berlin after Hitler's associate had it "cleaned up" of debauchery). Women have a consistent history of deception and trickery but not necessarily always disloyalty. But there's no way to tell the good ones from the bad ones so you just have to stay safe and GYOW.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 08:32 PM
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Indeed, advice we should all live by
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 08:23 PM
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I would say the satanists have a good rule set for helping with 1 and 2 because honestly, you just have to reduce the number.situations under which you need to use said strength as a good starting point, to quote: Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 08:03 PM
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James for the win!
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 07:37 PM
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Nothing has to change in a childfree arrangement as far as I am concerned. A woman simply needs to be happy with: No marriage whatsoever, including common law No legally binding cohabitation Both of us working at least 24 hours per week In practice, that means we both have to be registered as living at different addresses (one of us legally "living with parents") but in practice sharing the same household. The householder (who legally lives there alone) would officially pay the entirety of the m…
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 07:31 PM
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If she was advertising all over Tinder or POF trying to get a man, I'd be all over her case, but this post isn't THOTing. She clearly either dated Chad and got shafted or lost the tingles for someone and they parted ways. There's an indication of child support payments, so it's probably not Chad and she didn't mention any "abuse" so not a hostile breakup. Therefore, this is someone who's genuinely trying to work hard and is having tough times. This individual has my sympathy because the post ind…
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 07:20 PM
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If the headline was accurate, this would be hilarious because then women could legally be defined as able to rape men. But it's not accurate, it's a recommendation to change standards for sexual assault and rape but it does now mean more men can claim that women have sexually assaulted them without having to "defend themselves" by pushing/hitting or shouting at them. As I've described on other similar threads, a man could use this standard to claim that she's the perp instead in a false accusati…
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 06:58 PM
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No, it isn't. It's a descriptive term to simplify: No marriage, no cohabitation and [generally] no children.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 06:51 PM
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MGTOW isn't swearing off women. That's a misconception, it's 3 simple things: No marriage or civil partnerships (incl. Common Law) No cohabitation (if it is legally binding in any way) No having biological children that you can't have full custody of ​ This doesn't stop you doing any (or none) of the following: Maintaining long-term relationships (as a decent stable provider until it ends) Pump and dump / one-night stands (no commitment, sex only, short term) Having entirely platonic relationshi…
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 06:49 PM
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They have to drink ours.... we only have to sniff theirs to see the truth ;-) It's a compliment, not an insult!
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 06:35 PM
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An excellent question u/jimcrackedthecorn95. No-one here claims that every single woman on the planet does not care about guys. This can easily be disproved with individual examples. No challenge there really and I'm surprised you didn't do that yourself! You might be referring to the use of the AWALT Rule (aka. all women are like that) which describes the trend of women openly expressing their need for material possessions rather than what personality traits they value the most in a man. I need…
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 06:24 PM
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Who is she and what happened to her? Those facial features don't seem to match at all...
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 06:06 PM
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They should go their own way too and have fun with each other without putting their own futures at risk. If people in homosexual relationships have any common sense they will not: Jointly adopt children, or use surrogacy methods involving joint custody Get married or sign up to a civil partnership (even by common law) Live together in any manner that's legally binding in any way (no cohabitation) ​ I also recommend that heterosexual/bisexual women who wish to remain childfree live a MGTOW-esque …
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 06:04 PM
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It won't happen, at least not in the UK - and it's all thanks to feminism! They have to double-down because a tradcon approach means virginity becomes valuable again. That eliminates all of Tinder, every woman who's a single mother and every single feminist who believes in patriarchy theory. Meanwhile, there's a whole generation of herbivore men who believe that tradcon views are oppressive, who believe women expressing those views suffer from internalised misogyny and should therefore be avoide…
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 05:49 PM
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The point of my post is why we shouldn't have our own children, not why we shouldn't make children! If you're interested in purely making children without legal responsibility, just go to a sperm bank and donate non-anonymously. The mother gets no legal rights to know who you are but the child does at the age of majority, under strict confidentiality rules. This means your biological offspring can choose to make contact and get to know you as adults but you've got no legal obligations at all. Yo…
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 04:40 PM
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Where is this from? It's awesome! :D
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 01:19 PM
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\For reference. In this context, a grant is non-repayable money, while a loan is repayable money.]) She can sod right off. UK Universities have partnerships which all offer subsidised accommodation that's directly based upon the amount of loan/grant that you're entitled to, which is based upon fixed values. Maintenance grant acts as a write-off against maintenance loan by default, meaning the calculations used to make it all possible assume for worst-case scenarios (rich family that doesn't supp…
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 01:18 PM
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I actually posted a reply to two others just now who asked a similar question. In a nutshell, it's because women are good at pretending and if you take the gamble and lose, you're shafted for life. Put it this way, normally, if you lose all your assets and can't pay off your debts, you can still go bankrupt and clear everything. With marriage ending in a divorce, bankruptcy does not change anything, the moment you get back on your feet, you keep on paying. With child support, you often still hav…
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 12:59 PM
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My reply to this became a post - thanks for the inspiration. It details why I think LTRs are a bad idea right now and it's not to do with sex or looks or any of that.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 12:46 PM
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She isn't totally wrong though. Feminism is encouraging us men to go our own way while also kinda, sorta making a bunch of women go their own way too - saving a lot of men from a lot of trouble!
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 11:22 AM
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Welcome to the real 1%
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 11:16 AM
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MGTOW really only boils down to three things: No marriage (including common law) or civil partnerships No legally binding cohabitation (or just don't live with a partner) No making children that you can't guarantee you have full custody over ​ If any of these three things are hateful, then I guess childfree feminists who fight for women's rights are by definition hateful too! ​
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 11:14 AM
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This is GREAT! It makes it easier for us men to instantly reject the women we're not attracted to in an honest way. Why wouldn't we want to encourage this? This is great compared to older fashion trends like corsets or wearing specially-modified jeans without pockets to effectively hide one's flaws. Women used to artificially enhance their shape through very carefully designed garments, now they're not - that's an honest result. This makes our lives easier and theirs too. MGTOW and men in genera…
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 11:02 AM
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Her pic to the executive was low-res greyscale, wearing just underwear. She proved his point. A little bit of wrapping would have made her present much more appealing. That and she could have normalised her flesh tones and simulated better lighting using The GIMP in all of about 2 minutes, making for a much sexier look. Even Fox was wise enough to use a different photo for the headline to cast her in a slightly more flattering light.
/r/MGTOW13/08/19 10:06 AM
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That’s because standards haven’t previously been at the stage for a rape case where it’s a better way to go. But in assault cases, people are always accusing the accuser and it forces the police to mess around to get to the truth.
/r/MensRights12/08/19 08:11 PM
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If the case is already open from a woman claiming to have been raped they can’t refuse to investigate your claims, doing so would jeopardise the case similar to if a prosecutor fails to provide exculpatory evidence. You can both claim to be the victim and the law forces them to accept both sets of claims. It’s as simple as that.
/r/MensRights12/08/19 07:50 PM
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The best indicator for a mans SMV is his age, The older he gets, the more he is worth if he looks good and has money. But that’s mostly irrelevant to MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 07:19 PM
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What worked for me: Walk 1,000 steps per hour of living time (24,000 steps per day) Minimum of 2 litres of water per day, no more than 800ml in one go Fibre and protein are usually what you're missing - increase as needed McDonalds is actually healthy if you do it right 3 beefburgers without buns, no sauce with garden side salad 1 fillet o fish without buns and medium fries is fine too Keep sugar to a minimum, use diet Dr Pepper Go to bed early.. we're talking 8pm early and deliberately go for 9…
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 01:28 PM
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What did you use as your reference for tracking the purchase value of your retirement budget? Is the investment income a requirement to survive, or do you have additional savings too? How in the heck are you catering for market issues that early on? ​ ------------------------ Logic Below ------------------------ Every £1 of buying power theoretically requires £1.80 in 30 years time assuming 2% inflation but we know full well spikes happen every few decades. Factoring that in, one needs an income…
/r/MGTOW12/08/19 12:54 PM
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10 hours in and it’s still there... let’s see if they let this one pass. You never know, they might try and win me over with their reasonableness and charm! ;-)
/r/MensRights11/08/19 08:28 PM
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When Diane Abbott sounds more intelligent than what you’re proposing, it’s probably the ideal time to give up.
/r/MensRights11/08/19 08:22 PM
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Not anymore. They fired off a lot of the woke to stop themselves going broke, That’s how journos ended up being told to learn to code
/r/MensRights11/08/19 08:17 PM
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Women sharing men with other women are going against their instinctive nature, unless they're upcycling for social status. Upcycling a man is basically "giving him away" to her friends to elicit social benefits with lower status women in order to attain higher status from doing so, while she is monkey-branching to a man of higher social status. Most women will do this to weaker males, setting them up with their friends, to guarantee her friends access to resources.Upcycling allows her to sire ch…
/r/MGTOW11/08/19 07:41 PM
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Many reasons... here's a small list: ​ Innocent/Ignorant People Most men are brought up with the idea they should settle down and have a family, we shatter the dream Some poorer men live with women where both become co-dependent, therefore we must be lying to them! Some men genuinely believe they've found their NAWALT unicorn, therefore AWALT can't be a general rule Many men can't believe they can't possibly be more successful if they choose to ignore the booty call ​ People Protecting Their Own…
/r/MGTOW11/08/19 07:25 PM
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I don't care for red-pilling the world, but if I did, I would infiltrate the feminist groups, convince them that marriage is an overwhelmingly bad deal for women that cannot be rectified and have them spread such a message to the masses. No websites needed, no graffiti needed, no hypothetical needed. Who knows, maybe people are already doing that?
/r/MGTOW11/08/19 04:37 PM
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You'd be wise to adopt a MGTOW approach from the day you're legally able to have sex and/or get married. Focusing on you does not hurt. In the extreme, even if you changed your mind many years down the line you'd still benefit from being more successful as a result of focusing on yourself and thus you'd end up being more attractive to the opposite sex as a result. Therefore, it's a win-win proposition, even if you did end up seriously shafting yourself later down the line by getting married (bec…
/r/MGTOW11/08/19 04:14 PM
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You're forgetting a Level 6 Education For those not from the UK, that means a University degree.
/r/MGTOW11/08/19 03:31 PM
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That's like 75lbs if you factor in bar weight on a bench. That's lifting 35kg minimum. That's evil!
/r/MGTOW11/08/19 03:20 PM
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Or the result of a little too much sun and... https://youtu.be/r3vyFIf2jSE?t=67
/r/MGTOW11/08/19 03:12 PM
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Seriously, you will only provide for your children if they spend time with you?!?! They are not possessions and only providing for them if you get to spend time with them, well there is a name for purchase time spent with people: prostitution. Your argument makes no sense. If I'm being denied fair 50:50 access to my children by their mother then by extension I'm also being denied the ability to provide for them. She can't demand money from me in exchange for the time she's denying me access, tha…
/r/MensRights11/08/19 02:38 PM
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Thanks for the PSA. Remember, according to the radical feminists controlling the media: if you're voluntarily celibate you're a misogynist, yet if you sleep with women you're a rapist because all sex is rape. If you repeatedly try to sleep with women but fail, resulting in involuntary celibacy, you must be murder-killing them or something. So it doesn't matter if you try to play by their rules because you're a man, therefore, you're the embodiment of everything evil. Just follow the Japanese exa…
/r/MGTOW11/08/19 01:26 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean about relapse there. MGTOW isn't 'Monks Going Their Own Way' although many guys here probably have some good arguments in favour of that idea. You can shag if that's what you wanna do, just don't spend any more than what you would on a cheap hooker and don't invite give vampires a free invitation! A 'relapse' would only really mean doing one of three things: Marrying someone Legally cohabiting Barely dodging a baby bullet
/r/MGTOW11/08/19 01:05 PM
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Who needs the cow when you can get the milk for free? If you don't go MGTOW, you're getting milked! I'm 29 and earning boatloads of money, am debt free and have enough saved to quit working for 2-3 years and still be more than happy! I'm also about to finish my masters degree in about 8 weeks time, that I also pre-paid outright. GMOW at a young age resulted in me knowing my self worth and it allowed me to take full control of my life. I can't really think of any major down sides. All I lost is t…
/r/MGTOW11/08/19 12:53 PM
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> DO ANY OF YOU HAVE GOOD FEMALE FRIENDSHIPS WHETHER YOU’RE BANGING THEM OR NOT? Yes. A woman who's a masculine-dominant lesbian. She's basically a man with a vagina. You can talk to her about anything and she's completely non-judgmental and will give almost anything a go when we're out exploring. She once had to borrow a spare pair of my boxers because she had a very heavy flow. We were out on a long walk and her jeans had fully changed colour around the crotch by the time we got back - that's …
/r/MGTOW11/08/19 12:23 PM
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OP is going after the bank and taking the issue to the police. Once he's pressed charges, he will get his money back as the bank would be responsible for covering it due to the crime committed and their culpability due to a lack of due diligence. OP mother is an idiot. $1400 is nothing for someone with a career but it's everything to someone who's at Uni and wants to live more comfortably.
/r/MGTOW11/08/19 11:31 AM
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That's fine because this recommendation is in relation to sexual assault, not only rape. Otherwise, it'd be a valid legal defense in some states to say "but I only dry-humped her and she never said no! I never penetrated!" as the old standard would apply to non-rape sexual assault situations!
/r/MensRights11/08/19 11:25 AM
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This bill is awful but the reality that you describe is that the nuclear bomb still exists if you're in a common law relationship in Canada anyway! No woman must have legal rights through living with you for a year or more, else this can still potentially happen even without this bill. All this bill does is apply the same protections to conjugal relationships. Proving that a relationship is conjugal means one has to prove that one would have otherwise been in a common law relationship but that i…
/r/MensRights11/08/19 11:19 AM
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Unless you have a straight 50:50 split of access, then no-one should pay, this is the default custody arrangement. All child support should be contingent upon time spent with the child and if the split is equal, no income weighting should apply at all (it does today) as both parents have a legal right to 50% access. If one parent has a lesser income that impacts their ability to look after the child, it shouldn't by default be up to the other parent to fix that. In that situation, the failing pa…
/r/MensRights11/08/19 10:52 AM
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The headline indicates she can no longer abort the male fetus and is using alcohol/drugs to actively harm the baby, rather than simply getting on with life. Many NHS hospitals don't tell women the sex of the child during the early term of the pregnancy where easy abortions for almost any reason would normally be allowed without questioning; this is specifically done to make sex-selecting a much harder process. For reference, in the UK, there's no human right to obtain an abortion. What happens i…
/r/MensRights11/08/19 10:39 AM
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The post I left on original thread: The Borgen Project use the UN figures when trying to make their case. To quote the UN Sustainable Development Goal 4 progress for 2019: "Refocused efforts are needed to improve learning outcomes for the full life cycle, especially for women, girls and marginalized people in vulnerable settings " and "Some 750 million adults – two thirds of them women – remained illiterate in 2016. Half of the global illiterate population lives in South Asia, and a quarter live…
/r/MensRights11/08/19 10:08 AM
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I’m pretty sure she’s a satirical model
/r/MGTOW11/08/19 12:55 AM
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In response, one could say: “She opened her mouth widely as she went down on me, then said ‘ahhhhh’ like you would at a dentist. How else could that possibly be interpreted?” (I am not a lawyer but the standards for proof beyond a reasonable doubt are quite clear.) She then has to either disprove what he’s saying or justify why her actions don’t qualify as overtly demonstrating consent. The proposed change says overt words or actions need to be made to indicate consent but does not state consent…
/r/MensRights11/08/19 12:48 AM
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I'd like him to show where in the Bible it says that. He could have had what he wanted simply by having her fight a man in close-quarters combat and using that as evidence to prove whether or not she's objectively more or less effective than other people in the force. If she proves to be effective, she's in and he has to suck it up, if not, she's out. Simple as that. Why? He could legitimately argue that her inability to take down men, who make up the bulk of convicted criminals makes her a liab…
/r/MensRights10/08/19 10:32 PM
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Unlike with Title IX which uses a very weak civil standard, the "motivated by revenge" theory has to be positively proven for criminal cases, evidence has to show that it fits. Also unlike with Title IX, any evidence she has given under penalty of perjury becomes your evidence to use against her, therefore her own testimony needs to account for proving you had affirmed your consent but she didn't. Just as she is assumed to be telling the truth due to the penalty of perjury, it is also legally as…
/r/MensRights10/08/19 09:53 PM
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Easy, there's no contract between the man and the woman at all! It's a declaration that applies to all sex you choose to have that's independent of the other person's intent. Everyone registers their intent publicly at a registry office from the age of 12, complete with official paperwork that simply answers one question: Do you currently want to have children now or in the future? One does this with legal witnesses present. Most importantly, the declaration is made long before the age of consen…
/r/MensRights10/08/19 08:55 PM
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Firstly: Don't bother with social media, leave it for idiots to use. Instead, only use communication services that require conversation to be useful (social mediums). Secondly: Don't use statistics/facts on emotional people. Influence their emotional state instead! Ask some simple questions and listen intently, then follow up with some nice emotional logic bombs that invalidate all the invested emotion in one fell swoop. Dark humour works best for this. Ask: Can someone be a rapist if they haven…
/r/MensRights10/08/19 06:32 PM
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It's not as frightening as you think because it also means that any woman who accuses a man of sexual assault can herself be accused of sexual assault. There's no law that says an accuser can't also be simultaneously accused, the burden of proof has to be identical across scenarios and it's up to the police to disprove in that situation. This means that when she says you raped her, your defense can always be that of claiming she raped you - you're not required to prove it if she's not. Likewise,…
/r/MensRights10/08/19 06:04 PM
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If you're predominantly masculine: Play by your own rules and doing your own thing (within the boundaries of the law). You can stick it to society and do only that which you need to in order to survive and thrive. The beauty of this approach is that it doesn't matter if only you do it or if everyone who's a masculine man does it; as long as you enjoy living a masculine lifestyle, this approach is cheaper and simpler than for those who wish to live a more feminine one. There is only one golden ru…
/r/MensRights10/08/19 05:41 PM
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Equality of outcome should never be considered as a goal outside of scientific experiments in controlled environments. This is because it is actively harmful to potential equality of opportunity by using discrimination to control results (the antithesis of allowing everyone an equal chance). Equality of opportunity should be only applied in a fair and proportionate way and should never be absolute. Two everyday examples: A single-sex school should not be made into a place that accommodates both …
/r/MensRights10/08/19 05:03 PM
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What I would respond with if OP thread wasn't locked: > Lately I’ve been feeling like I really want another child, but I’m holding back because I don’t know what I’d do if I had a boy. What would you have done if your daughter popped out with a pair of testes rather than ovaries? Are you saying you don't unconditionally love your daughter? ​ > I have a daughter who is brilliant and fierce and the best thing in my world. We try hard to keep her free her from all the gendered BS of childhood and l…
/r/MensRights10/08/19 04:17 PM
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There's nothing wrong with this result. This is a positive result for all involved and also confirms that men can now wear skimpy semi-transparent bikini briefs that show off almost everything too if they want, as they're considered equivalent to full swimming trunks.. So women can show their breasts and men can more definitively reveal the outlines of their cocks! Gives us men more to look at and gives the women something to look at potentially too :-P
/r/MensRights10/08/19 03:52 PM
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People should be forced to provide proof of intent (on whether they want kids) before being able to have sex, period. No proof of intent means no consent. That way a woman who chooses to have a child without authorisation from the father has committed a crime and a man who reneges on his promise of looking after a child has also committed a crime. All sex would be also be fully informed this way.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 01:18 PM
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Apparently to be voluntarily celibate is misogyny. Them nuns must really hate themselves as much as the priests do!
/r/MensRights10/08/19 12:48 PM
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“I didn’t rape her, she raped me, prove me wrong” should work, as if she can’t prove she obtained affirmative consent from you, then she raped you too.
/r/MensRights10/08/19 12:45 PM
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It was conceived by a woman to describe primarily women who couldn’t get laid in the early days of the World Wide Web. She found out that the issue was also prevalent among men and created a unisex support group. This was back when Hotmail offered 2MB inboxes and Internet Explorer 4 was still technically usable, albeit crashy. Incel wasn’t even a label, it was a term used to describe a situation,
/r/MensRights09/08/19 11:01 PM
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Eventually, we will all communicate and act in such a detached way that our unchecked emotions will cause temporary bouts of primal rage, resulting in harm to one self and others... good thing we’re not quite there yet. Right guys?
/r/MensRights09/08/19 10:57 PM
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He gets to sue the workplace. Offering him his job back now would basically be tantamount to admitting wrongdoing on their part. It would also mean more negative PR. They have no incentive to want to do so. The ex-wife should be permanently named and shamed so that no man goes near her ever again.
/r/MensRights09/08/19 10:48 PM
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We totally like personalised ego stroking as much as women do
/r/MensRights09/08/19 10:43 PM
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Not getting married and having DNA tests performed to prove paternity wins you better protection against the mother leaving you, since she’s not entitled to any divorce money from you, only potential child support. This means that she’s going to have to work her fair share to be able to set up elsewhere, as she can’t spend your money to do that, If you’re married, she can openly spend your money when hiring a team to help her to leave you, all at your cost. Getting married empowers women to leav…
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 09:48 PM
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Why do you want to get married? What’s in it for you? Think about that first,
/r/MGTOW09/08/19 09:24 PM
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That should help kill off social media quickly. Just wait until that sort of data is collected on all of us as a service - everyone will go silent. Once the age of personal privacy makes a return, women will be restricted in their avenues for hypergamy again but many men will still not get married knowing the truth....
/r/MGTOW08/08/19 10:12 AM
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I stand by dolphins!
/r/MGTOW07/08/19 05:43 PM
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property rights do exist in nature and did exist in nature which is why they were formalized into law Without a legal system to make the fictitious philosophical concept a reality, there’d be nothing to stop anyone from killing you and taking what you claim to be your property.. then the next person can come along and rinse.. lather... repeat. It’s like saying people have a right to live - they don’t. We created a legal fiction to support the concept that everyone should have a right to live and…
/r/MGTOW07/08/19 05:01 PM
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I can’t tell if you’re trolling now. Xerox had nothing to do with inventing the Internet. Xerox had everything to do with inventing Ethernet which is a convenient LAN technology that doesn’t provide any routing logic to connect separate networks together. You cannot simultaneously complain that the US government delayed access when it was a privately developed technology while allowing private business to routinely do the same. Many alternatives were also developed independently in other countri…
/r/MGTOW07/08/19 04:38 PM
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“Oh, you mean like how governments worldwide finance the welfare state? By printing and stealing money?” Governments don’t print money. Private banks do. “Oh? Just don't use money and somehow find a way to not pay taxes. Is that all I have to do to not be robbed? LOL” Even if you don’t pay any taxes, you’re still being robbed when you use money. I’ve already proven this point by describing the mechanisms at play which create that effect. It’s not all you have to do to not be robbed. You’d also n…
/r/MGTOW07/08/19 10:17 AM
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I’m from Britain. The irony is that over here, we use the US as an example of a western state that lacks a welfare system. We have a fixed price system for universities that forces them to compete on quality. So your bachelor degree can only ever cost at most £9,000/year and you can get bursaries for good performance (to attract talent) and grants to reduce the loan amount for those from poorer families. Loans with a PAYE style system are provided where payments halt if you don’t earn over a cer…
/r/MGTOW07/08/19 01:12 AM
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Here’s a challenge for you: If you believe in the biblical concept of free will, then you’ll know that you still have free will even under coercion by God. It’s God’s coercion that gives meaning to the concept of free will. On that basis, can you truly have freedom without either anarchy or coercion to make it possible? Think about it. (Hint: I’m an atheist but our philosophical concept of freedom stems from the fundamental building block of free will)
/r/MGTOW07/08/19 12:50 AM
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Exploitation is a generally positive capitalist concept, it literally means “to make use of resources”. There are some forms of voluntary trade that would be detrimental to society in the long term if generally allowed to occur unchecked, like if the Scientology billion year contract was binding and literal - for example. It’s in good capitalist interests to ensure that good ideas and good trades are promoted and made easily possible to perform. A good capitalist economy requires that both the s…
/r/MGTOW07/08/19 12:36 AM
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Not supporting the welfare state means more people will borrow money, which steals money from everyone via inflation. Read my above comments for why it all makes no difference in practice. If you have central banking and money (tender) as an abstraction layer, you’re getting robbed anyway. Funny enough, we are living right now in the period with the most explosive innovation and industrial automation. Most of which is coming from welfare states. People don’t make innovations their life’s work li…
/r/MGTOW07/08/19 12:06 AM
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On banking: The banking system as it exists currently relies upon an infinite growth paradigm where a mathematical balance is kept between the total quantity of currency in use and the total (potential) value of it. The process of creating interest through loaning additional money into the system creates the need for ever increasing taxation. This is because there is not enough money in the system to pay off every debt in the system (if there was, there wouldn’t be enough ‘interest’ to keep on u…
/r/MGTOW06/08/19 11:54 PM
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On exploitation: All trading is built upon the concept. If me and you trade with each other and we both mutually gain from it, we have both exploited one another for what we have to offer - voluntary trading is exploitation! Using base materials to produce things of higher value is also exploitation. Likewise if I worked for you, you’d be exploiting my labour for profit, while I would also mutually gain from the money you pay me, thus I’d be exploiting you too, for your financial resources. When…
/r/MGTOW06/08/19 11:19 PM
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You just contradicted yourself by your own definitions: You don’t need to pay taxes or into the welfare system at all if you don’t want to. Simply don’t trade or exchange goods using money, you’re not coerced into doing so. Likewise you don’t have to pay a wage to someone to have them perform labour for you, that’s a voluntary agreement between you and them. Money isn’t your legal property, it’s legal tender for debt which comes with a private set of terms and conditions, codified in a huge set …
/r/MGTOW06/08/19 11:09 PM
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Did you go to school? If you did, you got educated at taxpayers expense. I was home schooled, therefore I’ve already spent less taxpayer money than in a state without a welfare system already. No teacher educated me, I educated myself to a high standard with the support of my parents. But, even with a superior education at no cost to anyone else, I needed to be able to claim prior work experience to pass initial corporate shit tests. By doing what I did, as a result, I’ve paid in more than what …
/r/MGTOW06/08/19 10:37 PM
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She can’t complain, she chose to sign the same stupid contract that we tell men not to sign. This is why MGTOW and a limited subset of feminists overlap quite a bit, our stance on relationships doesn’t just protect men from the plantation, it protects women who actually want to pay their own way and live an honest life too.
/r/MGTOW06/08/19 10:03 PM
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OK so I used the welfare system while in further education to allow myself to do what was almost essentially unpaid volunteering in my field of expertise for charities with large IT infrastructure. I saved up to the limit of what I was allowed to and had the charity pay me enough to cover expenses as a couple of hours pay per week, while working the rest unpaid. This allowed me to have rent/council tax mostly paid for by the government without claiming unemployment - out of £450/month rent I onl…
/r/MGTOW06/08/19 09:53 PM
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The word utopia as originally coined meant “no place” in a literal sense not “good place”, it’s the figurative meaning based upon its similarities to another similar Greek word which shaped its usage. Some consider it a pun. Which is why whenever someone makes utopian claims you know the reality will end up dystopian - because there’s no such thing as a “good place”. So perhaps she’s not studying opposites after all! Edit: Clarity/grammar
/r/MGTOW06/08/19 09:36 PM
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Why should a man have to be the primary breadwinner? That’s pure tradcuckery and is exactly the kind of harmful rhetoric that’s poisoned society for generations. I’m saying this as a man who earns above average pay compared to other locals (both men and women). Besides, most guys earn less than top-tier women (e.g. Sheryl Sandberg), does that mean we’re all pathetic to you? There’s absolutely zero reason that two intelligent, like-minded people who truly care about each other couldn’t both work …
/r/MGTOW06/08/19 09:23 PM
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Going your own way means exactly that. It’s all up to you. You can be as skinny or as obese as you want and still be going your own way. However, the healthier your lifestyle the greater the freedom and longevity you will gain, which will serve you well whatever way you go.
/r/MGTOW06/08/19 09:04 PM
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The welfare system is very much needed 1) As a means to prevent exploitation. It sets a low bar threshold that employers can’t cross when offering work to the lowest classes 2) To allow people to take risks for the good of everyone. Without the welfare system, I wouldn’t have the decent job I have now
/r/MGTOW06/08/19 08:59 PM
2

This is beginning to be done in principle. There’s a standardised parameter you can use on hyperlinks in HTML to stop search indexers from following them as an attempt to remove the incentive for bots to comment spam (as in no more black-hat SEO via that method). To stop referer tracking, loads of sites use anonymity services to strip said info. The use of archive links and such would also prevent direct embedded adverts from being useful because hits on the archive would no longer count has hit…
/r/MensRights06/08/19 08:29 PM
1

You’re saying this like most people here hate feminism in general, that’s actually not true. A lot of people hate specific feminist doctrines that simply happen to be popular among a great many self-proclaimed feminists, like: intersectionality, patriarchy theory, inherited privilege, positive discrimination, intrinsic privilege and denial of inherent sexual dimorphism. When you have people praising these hateful doctrines fro, the rooftops without realising why they’re hateful, it’s no wonder w…
/r/MensRights06/08/19 08:05 PM
1

I think OP is failing to understand what the term ‘Latinx’ is for. Latinx is not a change in language, it’s a catch-all for existing language. In IT, we don’t say that Windows 98 is Windows 9x, we say 9x when we are referring to something that applies to both Windows 95 AND 98. Likewise, Latino refers to men and Latina refers to women, while Latinx refers to both. No white feminists are lecturing people on this. People who don’t understand the use of language are mistakenly using a catch-all in …
/r/MensRights06/08/19 07:44 PM
3

We should always use archive links and starve all “news” websites. Journalism as it is today needs to die and be replaced with information supplied through subject matter experts who can reference and collate information like a librarian or professional academic researcher would. It’s almost like all “news” is sensational tabloid guff now - at least the Daily Star still has a purpose, I don’t see what the others have left.
/r/MensRights06/08/19 07:30 PM
9

Is that it? I’d be asking for criminal charges. That’s a minimum of Actual Bodily Harm (ABH) where someone should end up with a prison sentence...
/r/MensRights06/08/19 07:25 PM
1

....and if we don’t want an inspiring sex robot, we could just seed it with the diary of Karl Pilkington and quotes from Forrest Gump to make random conversations happen
/r/MGTOW06/08/19 07:21 PM
1

It’s usually about validation. She will feel less nervous if her male friends don’t respond negatively to what she’s talking about. You can probably get her to stop by telling her she’s a bad bad girl in a teasing way, rather than taking her seriously.
/r/MGTOW06/08/19 07:18 AM
1

It’s not that important to me but it keeps things fresh when the option is there, so it’s an upside that I factor in. Try getting various *-jobs while high and you’ll enjoy the difference in feeling; let’s just say you feel a different kind of sensitivity. Likewise, if she’s high, just try going down on her.... you’ll notice a big difference! I wouldn’t call it a sedated feeling at all, it feels like more of a “less is more” sensory overload to me! Edit: Keep in mind, I probably get high like tw…
/r/MGTOW06/08/19 07:10 AM
14

Man, if I owned hookers, I’d feel really, really boss. Not gonna deny that. However, your point is very true and noted!
/r/MGTOW05/08/19 09:54 PM
3

She could just adjust her hours for flexitime so that she covers those 3 days per month with extra hours on other days. Simples. It’s not much worse that catering to fathers who have children with learning difficulties who act up a few times per month and need to skip days for those reasons. Edit: Employer definitely a woman too.
/r/MGTOW05/08/19 05:53 PM
2

Dude, you can have as much fun as you like with that girl and still GYOW. Just make sure to use protection and avoid marriage, if it’s a place where you aren’t subject to Common Law Marriage or a terrible equivalent, you are even free to go about a shared living arrangement of some kind. The rest is all up to you.
/r/MGTOW05/08/19 05:48 PM
3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrvMzk1ozE4 Cartman knows the future.
/r/MGTOW05/08/19 03:46 PM
7

Hypothetically, if one man dies to protect one woman, no lives have been saved. Instead, one life was exchanged for another. In a society where all life is equal, that's worth no more or less than if that doesn't occur. Since most people can't act as an effective human shield for multiple people, that means those who do that consider their own lives to be less valuable than that of the people they are protecting - ergo, they consider their own life disposable compared to those they are protectin…
/r/MensRights05/08/19 12:33 PM
3

" Wow. Just, wow. According to this metric, more than half (about 52% of the global population) isn't worth protecting based on... what? Your irrational hatred of women? " Most of the global population isn't worth protecting when it puts your own life in grave danger, men or women. This is common sense. The people I consider worth protecting probably make up around 0.001% of the global population at best, irrespective of sex. "Life is worthless and I should watch innocent people die. Got it." In…
/r/MensRights05/08/19 12:09 PM
7

Prostitution: Cheap escort services don’t really cater for my specific sexual needs as I’m not stereotypical of most men. That and unlike other options, you can’t get high together. I’ve never really had an overly great time when I’ve tried it, plus the screening process is a collection of shit tests - exactly what I don’t want when my goal is an easy time. PUA. I was using the “mystery method” before shit tests could identify it - it works in the correct scenarios, I used to practice new openin…
/r/MGTOW05/08/19 09:54 AM
5

Tradcucks cant tell fiction from reality. That’s why many of them believe in the bible.
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 09:15 PM
5

It’s already a near worldwide phenomenon for developed nations... Portugal: https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/portugal-reflects-global-decline-in-fertility-rates-with-one-of-lowest-birth-rates-in-world/47517 Italy. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/italy-s-birth-rate-drops-to-its-lowest-in-more-than-150-years1/ Germany: https://www.ft.com/content/05baa6ae-86dd-11e9-a028-86cea8523dc2 Cyprus: https://in-cyprus.com/cyprus-the-lowest-fertility-rate-in-the-world/ Spain: https://www.ncbi.n…
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 09:07 PM
3

You could make up an interesting conditional will that's targeted at a John Doe who meets specific criteria. Hypothetically, you could probably have a will that requires the executor to find a homeless man who's under the age of 35 who can inherit your house and your entire savings if he agrees: To live in it for the next 20 years, at which point he owns it To use the savings only for repairs/maintenance of the property until he owns it To maintain the garden featuring a gravestone as it's the s…
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 04:53 PM
6

Having the general public pay for student loans wouldn't help, as women would need to work anyway to survive, except now they're competing in an age where "simple" jobs are disappearing. Having a cap on payments based upon income would also not work, as in a society where men aren't pursuing women, men can afford to earn a lot less... I predict a population decline that's below replacement rate where taxpayers will foot the bill to provide grants and regular payments to encourage people to start…
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 04:38 PM
9

Markus Persson wisely had a pre-nup in place with his wife and dumped her before Minecraft went big: He's also openly anti-feminist in almost every public statement he makes. Known for being "extremely generous" to his ex and daughter (despite not having to make payouts) Openly says that trying to be nice/saving the world is what caused him to sell Minecraft ​ He's a guy who went from blue pill to red pill to going his own way. He now does whatever he wants and has no commitments.
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 04:24 PM
2

Reading between the lines, she's not a filthy casual where it matters! (Seriously though that profile... that's very erm... scammy looking... probably a catfish looking to shame "nice guys")
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 03:53 PM
5

Hell yeah! Same here. High-five bro!
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 03:36 PM
8

My response to the original thread: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I feel like I’m having to give up my life because my husband is depressed and anxious. 3 hours commuting every single day plus full time work is way beyond the norm - depression is an expected result. Of a total 168 possible hours, he will lose 56 on sleep. That leaves 112 hours. Then he loses at least another 55 hours due to work+comm…
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 03:30 PM
15

I still take advantage of low-risk opportunities when they occasionally crop up. Full monk is probably the better option though.
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 10:46 AM
1

Not a lawyer but I'm from the England where the rules are extremely simple and men are all well aware of them. It all adds up to: Don't get married, don't be the biological father, don't sign the birth certificate, always refer to yourself explicitly as a stepfather and don't assume any legal guardianship In general: 1) There's no assumed parentage outside of marriage if you refuse to sign the birth certificate or any paperwork to make you explicitly a legal guardian 2) You have to be an adoptiv…
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 10:29 AM
1

That only counts where it can be proven that he knows the child isn’t his but claims it to be his anyway. “When a party has, by his own statement or conduct, intentionally and deliberately led another to believe a particular thing true and to act upon such belief, he is not, in any litigation arising out of such statement or conduct, permitted to contradict it.” He has to deliberately and intentionally mislead the child and be proven to have done so. Where’s the proof that he knows? No one else …
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 09:23 AM
1

You could just love in a non-romantic way that takes female nature into account, Romance is a means to an end (control). We’re not hardwired towards romance, we’re conditioned towards it by society. Non-romantic, loving sexual relationships are probably more what you’re after,
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 09:02 AM
5

As the feminists like to say: “women don’t owe you anything”. The upshot is that men don’t owe women anything either. RP thinking would have been to leave things as they were, since it would have been the same result anyway,
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 08:54 AM
0

Technically he holds all the cards in this scenario, so it’s actually not an entirely bad situation if he thinks red pill. You see, when a simp gets screwed over badly, people know they go on a rampage, that’s why “nice guys” aren’t actually nice. Jasmine would be very well aware of this at an emotional level (pure fear), more than a logical one: She’s too young to support herself and will remain that way for a good 3-4 years at a minimum He doesn’t have to pay alimony or child support and is ca…
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 08:42 AM
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I’m pretty sure he paid off his wife to the tune of $1.5bn in cash in 2012. She’s a CFR member so it is probably in his best interests to avoid getting Hillaried...
/r/MGTOW04/08/19 08:13 AM
0

This is one thing I’ll let the feminists push hard for because more competition can only be a good thing ;)
/r/MGTOW03/08/19 09:02 PM
6

In the UK, one can request access under the Equality Act because anything provided to the general public has to be made available to all genders with only minimal exceptions for lawful justifications. If the establishment refuses, they can be sued very easily. The law doesn’t require baby change facilities in toilets anyway, so establishments that want to avoid trouble could just get rid of them entirely or move them to a separate room.
/r/MensRights03/08/19 08:28 PM
2

Is that as a total or compared individually? Because we’re not a very hateful place :-D
/r/MGTOW03/08/19 05:12 PM
5

u/idontnowduh how do you end up disliked by both r/GenderCritical and r/MGTOW? You must hate women and men equally! Perhaps you belong in r/misanthropy
/r/MGTOW03/08/19 05:04 PM
1

A bit like how they banned themselves from all student campuses. No-one has forgotten that tuition fees rose to £9,000p/a because of their policies (after promising free tuition if elected).
/r/MensRights03/08/19 04:38 PM
4

I'd love to see the media spin on white, female jurors finding a black man not guilty. I agree, it will happen. I just don't know how it will happen.
/r/MensRights03/08/19 04:27 PM
3

Believe it or not, there's actually a logical, non-sexist reason for this. Most countries have requirements for medical waste related to women-specific and accessible toilets that don't apply to men's or general unisex toilets. Rather than increasing standards for the existing men's toilets, which would require paying more money and possible increased cleaning costs, it makes sense to split womens/disabled and unisex toilet types instead. With the universal sign of accessibility on there, that m…
/r/MensRights03/08/19 04:17 PM
1

Spin plates. Keep things open and very sexual. You can have an LTR, just not a monogamous one. Done.
/r/MGTOW03/08/19 03:59 PM
1

Let me quote myself: "You're right, I really want to meet my equal, but not someone who's only equal to who I am now. I want someone who's also equal to my future self 10 years from now. Do you know anyone like that?" -- Martyn Hare
/r/MGTOW03/08/19 03:56 PM
3

We get useful PR every day through "universal condemnation" and those who encourage us, like our feminist allies... People are already learning not to trust what they see/hear, I wouldn't worry about trying to raise awareness as we're already being sought out.
/r/MGTOW03/08/19 03:50 PM
1

They contributed cheaper goods and services by wasting simps money. As a result, they contributed MGTOW, which is a superior overall lifestyle choice.
/r/MGTOW03/08/19 01:58 PM
2

Yet more proof that romance is dead. Thankfully this dude was essentially going his own way already as he has his own unique thing which doesn't depend upon her and isn't served by having her around anyway. Sad he lost access to his son though. Since she took him to Japan, he should be able to claim kidnap if he really wants his son back (going to Japan was a big mistake, married fathers have more rights out there and she hasn't divorced).
/r/MGTOW03/08/19 01:55 PM
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Surprised she didn't mention 'spinning plates' in the whole scheme of things, after all, there's nothing better than knowing you can easily someone who you fall out of love with. This is why not getting married in the first place is the better solution. You can do what this guy did without being a dishonest cheat. Women should just be honest with the fact that they don't want monogamy and men should be honest too. All this corny romance stuff needs to be put to rest once and for all.
/r/MGTOW03/08/19 01:18 PM
1

I only have to find an instance of a single woman claiming “all men are rapists” without irony to prove there are more falsely accused men than there are rapists. How long do you think it will take me to find such evidence given Google exists?
/r/MensRights03/08/19 12:01 PM
2

Are you joking? In most of Europe it’s legal for children to drink with their parents from the age of 16 under varying circumstances and to not do so is considered bad parenting!
/r/MensRights03/08/19 11:31 AM
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That’s a hard one because I pretty much have everything I want already and that’s no joke. All the basics are there and work allows me to self-actualise fairly frequently. I suppose improving my overall physical fitness (I currently look like the inverse of someone who skips leg days) and possibly overcoming a natural fear of water that stopped me swimming since childhood.
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 10:00 PM
2

Simple Answer: That's basically every subreddit that's not about women before it becomes popular u/sharkinator1198 almost every new thing starts off with MGTOW and ends up with posers invading the space. Think about it.
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 04:56 PM
1

That moment when you almost shitpost a "Who cares?" on to an MRA subreddit >_> I've almost been there on many occasions... I've probably done it and just not realised it!
/r/MGTOW02/08/19 04:27 PM
10

The whole thing failed badly despite the hype because they invited more men than women. They claimed it to be a ‘slut stream’ but failed to get any willing sluts to entertain. https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/07/31/twitch-streamers-raise-3175-during-slutstream-to-combat-online-harassment/ The media showed they had 9 streamers in total involved, They made around $350 each for a special event that they spent ages marketing. Meanwhile, streamers like Amouranth pull around $300 per day standalone…
/r/MensRights02/08/19 07:39 AM
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This shows how little you know. The most common form of “female circumcision” isn’t about removing the clitoris, it’s about removing or reducing the clitoral hood: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clitoral_hood_reduction ....and guess what? It has claimed medical benefits too. Go read then tell us that it’s not equivalent to removing penile foreskin.
/r/MensRights01/08/19 09:16 PM
8

We know from the Ashley Madison hack that 30% of users were women. Post hack the number jumped to 50%. https://www.globaldatinginsights.com/news/half-ashley-madison-users-women/ So there’s at a minimum a trend towards an increase in female adulterers
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 09:06 PM
2

Why would anyone listen to “the rapists” is beyond me. If you have poor mental health, go see a proper psychologist or psychiatrist who can actually help. Edit: Therapists are not the same thing as psychologists/psychiatrists.
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 08:56 PM
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I agree. MGTOW is meant to be practical and apolitical because it’s the only feasible solution right now. Men’s rights has consistently failed to produce useful results for 30+ years...
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 08:51 PM
5

You wouldn’t need to, you’d represent yourself at that point. I personally think that child support should be supplied as vouchers that can only be spent on VAT-free items. That would solve a lot of the problems instantly, as almost all childcare related items would qualify, along with essential food and basic children’s clothing.
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 08:48 PM
2

To which one can legally reply that children don’t drive and parents don’t need to drive their kids unless they’re going to school somewhere beyond the statutory distance, to which a school bus is usually provided anyway. “For children aged over 5 but under the age of 8 the statutory walking distance is 2 miles. For children aged over the age of 8 and under 16 the statutory walking distance is 3 miles. “
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 08:32 PM
2

There’s another way to look at this, which is that men who aren’t doing things on their own terms (like us MGTOW) are simply behind the times. After all, feminists are advising against women going down the traditional romance route, why shouldn’t men take their advice and do the same? There’s nothing stopping us from doing the exact same things that feminist women are doing but in an open and honest way. We’re built to be polygamous after all.
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 08:24 PM
8

It’s not GYOW-lite to still have fun times with women. Just don’t marry, [legally] live with or have kids with them >_>
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 08:10 PM
1

I agree with the notion that focusing on material possessions is short sighted, I don’t think that reflects MGTOW though. In fact, since going my own way, I’ve had less need for material possessions than ever before. A small list of things that really matter more to me: I’d rather have two showers a day and roam around naked while I’m indoors - my choice I also enjoy growing a nice whabbi neckbeard only to shave it completely off at random! I take my time to make a decent, balanced meal of my ow…
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 08:01 PM
3

I suspect he's not talking about going into a traditional romantic relationship. There's no reason a man can't spin plates (the same way women do) and create a situation where everyone involved ends up better off. There's more than one way to GYOW, after all.
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 06:14 PM
1

....or ask not to remain anonymous with the child being informed by the state, with or without parental consent, upon reaching age of majority. Then you get the best of both worlds, as the child isn't yours but it's your genetic lineage and; when (s)he grows up you get a new friend!
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 05:41 PM
8

It came in like a wrecking wall..... pulling never felt so hard before! Heeeelp me! Heeeelp me!
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 05:31 PM
3

Sucks to be American. The UK government has backpedaled on new child support claims by discouraging people from making claims and instead having people work it out among themselves. It actually costs the person paying and the person claiming an overhead that the government collects as a type of tax if they want the government to handle all the payments.
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 05:27 PM
7

The marriage wasn’t real so no risk to Jake there at all
/r/MGTOW01/08/19 07:41 AM
15

All we can really surmise from this is that she’s a single mother who needs a breadwinner she can take advantage of. She’s just lacking a natural home remedy for her past mistakes is all...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/07/19 10:04 PM
4

That’s the effect of heavy smoking and too much wine on a daily basis. They’re your typical British troglodytes. (If you want good looking women, go for the Polish migrants instead!)
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 09:24 PM
1

Past experience.. POF - it’s where I got most of my action from. Used to use a script to auto-logoff/logon to keep myself close to the top without paying. OKCupid - loads of matches but conversations would die out fast. Unlike on POF, people are less willing to get straight to business Tinder - next to no matches, those who do match turn out to be single mothers who talk about abusive exes (as in the fathers of their kids) those that aren’t are usually depressed or bipolar or have some other kin…
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 08:42 PM
9

Make it rain brother! I wouldn't consider it a war on masculinity as much as it is an attempt to keep the infinite growth paradigm going as administrative debts are spiraling out of control. Think about it. Men aren't known for wasting money on themselves to quite the degree women are and even if they were, to keep up economic growth, the number of potential consumers has to be as large as possible - which means men and women need to both be buying things all the time! That means the only way to…
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 08:23 PM
3

...and once again, I feel validated in my choice to go my own way. Traditional relationships are a stupid idea. Just avoid them. Are these people braindead? 29M and absolutely fugly, yet, besides my own travel expenses and my own costs for food/entertainment, I have never been outright asked to pay a penny, ever. I've seen that look of "expectation" but that's easily handled by giving off the right vibe. The most I've ever paid for is the cost of a taxi the morning after and/or McDonalds as a co…
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 08:05 PM
5

I can imagine it now "Waaah! His words fucked with my head... he raped me!" We now know under the current system that it's not safe to have sex with classmates, not safe to have sex with workmates and not safe to have sex after a night out. It's almost like the system is trying to encourage all men to become tradcucks again. It's almost like feminists are being manipulated....
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 05:47 PM
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I’d rather not have a ‘free lawsuit’ off the back of a false accusation. That’s a good way to go about getting one, especially if you unintentionally defraud the girl by not giving her the artwork she wants in the style she wants (extremely subjective). That and the higher moral ground is worth more than 5 minutes worth of static fap material. Past experience shows that even with a clear ‘sexchange of services’ that things never go well this way.
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 04:59 PM
2

221 dates. Let that sink in. She’s essentially a female incel who failed 4 different LTRs in the past, I can guarantee it’s not down to the wall or her looks, either. Absolute land whales who fall off the bottom of the spectrum when it comes to aesthetics both past and present manage to outperform this model with fewer dates, often achieving stable (5 year+) marriages. It must be her personality.
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 04:35 PM
22

The French approach to life can be summed up as ‘surrender first, protest later’
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 04:21 PM
1

I will have a deeper look into other ONS stats and your full analysis before responding in detail, as you’ve already done quite some extensive research yourself and it appears to be extremely well thought out. (That and ‘I agree’ is much quicker to write if your conclusions end up matching my own afterwards) However, what I will say is that a lot has changed in how people communicate since 1981. If someone does something they regret, chances are the whole world finds out about it due to the Inte…
/r/MensRights31/07/19 04:18 PM
1

That’s because most men are economically better off single in terms of actual net worth anyway.. Men bounce back by devoting more time to their career, while women are stuck with whatever they had to begin with. Even the guardian admits that even women without kids in a divorce scenario end up still 25% worse off - why would that be?
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 12:51 PM
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The 4% stat is believable. Story time: A friend of mine who anyone would have considered a betabux cuck had a (camp AF) fashionista give him a unique style and a photoshoot just for Tinder purposes. He'd simply approve of all women presented by the app and then the matches rolled in. All said friend did was toss his phone around and let people say anything they wanted to each match - none of the matches cared what was said, they only wanted one thing.. At one point he had three different women o…
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 12:35 PM
10

I think we can trust Judge Cristina Perez though. Justice was served. Good thing that bitch cheated before the wedding, he was luckier than most of the others here have been.
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 12:28 PM
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Look at the most common cause of death by suicide for women in those stats (poisoning, 31.4%). If you use that data as a yardstick to measure against methods used in failed attempts (which are not recorded), one can surmise that many women's lives have been saved by healthcare professionals and poison control interventions. Compare that to men, where 56% of the deaths come from firearms and only 9% from poisoning. I don't think a bullet to the head is quite as fixable, medically speaking, as poi…
/r/MensRights31/07/19 12:09 PM
3

The Video #awkwardconfession - I found myself staring at his chest. That's such a good low-cut top illusion to go with that wig. Also, such a good stereotyping of pretentious hipster chicks.
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 11:39 AM
1

The writer of this article is laughably lacking in self awareness. However, I agree with the premise that neither men nor women should have dedicated sex-segregated spaces in their house. Instead, (s)he who owns the house should decorate it as (s)he sees fit in its entirety - no ifs, no buts. If women want feminine decor, they should earn it, if men want masculine decor... they too should earn it! If the person you're living with doesn't like it, they can go get their own house to decorate! Simp…
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 11:35 AM
1

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Equality of opportunity harms equality of outcome over the long term. You can have one or the other but never both and an admission that this competitor doesn't qualify as a woman is essentially saying she isn't a woman. Feminists in general are going to have a hard time reconciling this because: If men and women are actually equal, why do they compete separately? If men can actually become women (and vice-versa) then why bother competing separately? Wh…
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 11:23 AM
9

As a British person, I'd consider it a wholly accurate title: Queen Elizabeth II has not achieved anything meaningful (besides just living a long time) People accept that her role is purely ceremonial and exists purely for entertainment purposes Loads of people come to England simply because of the queen and don't know why No matter what crimes she commits, she cannot be found guilty as she is above the law -- I'd say that translates pretty damn well to what happens in practice. Wouldn't you agr…
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 11:07 AM
2

I'm gonna go enjoy a Yamazaki before I go for a long walk later. To GYOW!
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 10:54 AM
4

Your brother is correct. Always drink it neat, it must never be diluted. I don't use ice either due to the melting risk.
/r/MGTOW31/07/19 10:51 AM
7

I left the following comment on that thread: I disagree with this stance vehemently, on the grounds that not all consent is equally informed consent. Otherwise, drugging someone up on aphrodisiacs to make them consent when they otherwise wouldn’t would be fair game too. Besides, if you agree with this viewpoint then by extension, consensual sex between a minor girl and an adult male would also not rape because it’s consensual. That logic leads to countries like Yemen allowing sex based on ‘if yo…
/r/MensRights31/07/19 10:30 AM
7

I’m not sure it’s true that men are encouraged to get with women who wouldn’t be their equal, that’s more desperation caused by misconceptions about how valuable men with standards really are. In my world, if a woman isn’t the sort who can pull her own weight, she’s not even friendship material, let alone anything else.
/r/MensRights31/07/19 09:23 AM
5

Put him in touch with the falsely accused. Let him hear the truth.
/r/MensRights31/07/19 09:03 AM
2

From the ONS: “Since 1981, the male suicide rate in England has generally been on a downward trend. In 2017, the rate was 14.0 deaths per 100,000 males, the second lowest rate observed since the time series began, when the rate was 19.3 deaths per 100,000.”. So, if people are less suicidal than before, both men and women. Why did Esquire claim a sharp rise? Well also from the ONS: “Figures are for deaths registered, rather than deaths occurring in each calendar year. Due to the length of time it…
/r/MensRights31/07/19 08:54 AM
2

Switch to IT consulting instead.. potentially as a contractor, Use a mixture of generic filler sentences bound to shortcuts and pure audio dictation to write the proposals and reports that go alongside your telephone/in-person presence. Where there’s a will, there’s a way.
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 10:12 PM
2

...and this is why normal people need to be kept away from the Internet. This is the tip of the iceberg. The same type of software used to produce stuff like [ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pU3iGpwKxKc ] can also be used to produce photorealistic videos (using dummy webcam video sinks) where someone looks completely different to who they really are. The only limitation in the real world is the need to have a single static angle (usually zoomed in/cropped) to properly maintain the illusion and av…
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 10:01 PM
0

I say that because she didn’t run into the wall, the wall ran into her. People pitying her and using her for political validation probably puts her situation not too far off what guys have to deal with - even with female privileges, the pussy pass will mostly end up denied for her.
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 09:10 PM
0

Torrenting games is morally right. Sharing is caring, Not entirely sure what that has to do with GYOW but still... >_>
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 08:26 PM
3

So far so good, in my own experience. However, I have seen a lot of people here end up being banned from other places simply for having a history of commenting on here. Just do whatever you think is right.
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 08:09 PM
1

Here’s my plan for handling it as I never want kids of my own: One person owns the house and must be solely responsible to pay any monthly mortgage/insurance payments and council tax for it entirely In exchange for this, said person gets to keep all household non-consumable items in the event of a break-up (pretty much all contents) However: Household bills must be split equally regardless of income and must be signed up in the name of the homeowner only Costs of purchase for furniture, applianc…
/r/MGTOW30/07/19 07:03 PM
1

There's enough disposable white knights to ensure that doesn't happen. Therefore, there's nothing to worry about. Just enjoy your freedom, independence and cheap shit! :-D
/r/MensRights30/07/19 03:05 PM
1

If that happened, the world economy would collapse almost overnight. Women make the majority of non-essential consumer purchases that keep everything cheap. Why do you think women are always the first to be appeased even in scenarios where there’s stronger demonstrable evidence of misandry?
/r/MensRights30/07/19 12:58 PM
1

I do believe I know who you’re actually referring to. I still think those people should be allowed to comment... and we should all openly challenge their beliefs while still offering support. To force people underground is to create subcultures that will threaten the mainstream in disastrous ways. But...neckbeards...haha that would have been a worse word choice, as that term was first adopted as a term of endearment amongst computer science enthusiasts long before your average person stopped app…
/r/MensRights30/07/19 12:54 PM
4

We don’t have to side with anyone. We can objectively determine a verdict from evidence, where her own testimony (as given in evidence) and the recording of the consensual acts in question, currently shows that she’s a liar and a hypocrite who (by law) committed rape herself. Her motivation for the false accusations would require her testimony to confirm, as we don’t know what her motivation is yet, we can only speculate. It is possible that new evidence could exonerate her but that seems unlike…
/r/MensRights30/07/19 10:48 AM
3

Forced transsexualism is a problem that’s both a men’s and women’s rights issue simultaneously because it robs both sexes of their right to be their natural birth sex, it literally robs men of the right to be men and women of the right to be women - with differing results. It’s like the genital mutilation debate. There’s no need for men or women to be circumcised in 2019, yet it’s both a men’s and a women’s rights issue because it uniquely affects each sex differently - are we going to say femal…
/r/MensRights30/07/19 10:24 AM
1

You mention that this place is “gathering more incels” as if someone’s sex life has any bearing on the validity of what they say. Besides, look at how feminists give support to their incels (with support for single mothers, fat acceptance etc.), surely we should be doing similar for men?
/r/MensRights30/07/19 08:28 AM
1

I had to work out a bit before I could lift 2U servers with HDDs in them with any comfort (I’m your typical weak, nerdy guy). We are talking 25-40kg depending on what’s inside.
/r/MensRights30/07/19 08:07 AM
5

They’re trying to talk about arranged marriages in backwards third world countries, where forced husbandry results in acid being used to disfigure disobedient women. OP on that thread screwed up because they failed to take into account the United Kingdom where acid attacks are just an equivalent to gun violence, probably because they didn’t know or think about it at the time of posting. To be honest, this is exactly the type of stuff feminists should be highlighting in their women-come-first wor…
/r/MensRights30/07/19 08:00 AM
1

Are you required to work with her directly? If so, you must let your manager know that there’s a problem. If not, you can always end your conversations with other coworkers fairly abruptly (but politely) the moment she tries to join in on them, while taking an approach of only speaking when spoken to with her in particular. She will very quickly pick up on the pattern socially and so will others. To which she will either apologise (if what she is doing is not fully intentional) or act up a lot l…
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 09:03 PM
13

Nice to hear GYOW has served you well. Hopefully the upward trajectory will continue!
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 08:49 PM
9

More like those parents revealed their propensity for child abuse. Children are meant to experiment with their sexual identity before they reach puberty, it's normal for kids to express and mimic traits that oppose norms; it's called natural learning. It sounds like these parents took those normal behavioural cues and interpreted them as symptoms of disphoria - this is why most parents are too stupid to be let loose near the DSM or the Internet. They've potentially screwed their kids up for life…
/r/MensRights29/07/19 08:47 PM
17

In the UK, women have free medical assistance to have an abortion for almost any reason within the first 24 weeks, as a doctor can use a liberal interpretation for the reasoning and then get the forms countersigned - that's without any actual "abortion rights". Yet, despite the best possible medical assistance being available on the grounds of preserving women's mental health, some feminists still go on about 'my body. my rights' in this country. That's completely ignoring the fact that opening …
/r/MensRights29/07/19 08:40 PM
5

HERmaphrodite
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 04:57 PM
7

Firstly I'd just like to say, if you're not excluding advertising from your life, you're polluting your mind. On that basis, the less I have in common with manipulative media meant to advertise, the better. However, I'd like to confirm that advertising trends for who they portray is based on regional bias and analytics and isn't common to a company portfolio worldwide. With Apple for instance, the British, Japanese, Polish and German variants all have men more prominently featured in them. Regio…
/r/MensRights29/07/19 04:54 PM
80

Mistake #1: If she's setting fire to "boyfriend's clothes" then he isn't "boyfriend"
/r/MensRights29/07/19 04:21 PM
1

The Game by Neil Strauss.
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 04:19 PM
3

I bet if she'd have asked if the same applied to female friends he'd either: say yes, say he hasn't got any or say that there's no such thing. She asked the wrong question to begin with.
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 04:19 PM
1

I bet if she'd have asked if the same applied to female friends he'd either: say yes, say he hasn't got any or say that there's no such thing. She asked the wrong question to begin with.
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 04:19 PM
1

Fact-checking time She's referring to a paper from 2010 that suggested people with greater social sensitivity work in groups more successfully than those who are less socially sensitive. To quote the researchers: Only when analyzing the data did the co-authors suspect that the number of women in a group had significant predictive power. "We didn't design this study to focus on the gender effect," Malone says. "That was a surprise to us." However, further analysis revealed that the effect seemed …
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 11:19 AM
5

CalligrapHER
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 08:56 AM
9

Or, all men should play life like it’s an RPG. By end game, most players have way more coin, items and skills than they really need, but keep on winning anyway.
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 08:54 AM
7

No MGTOW as a rule basically means they don’t want people to take practical steps towards responsibility, only metaphorical ones.
/r/MGTOW29/07/19 08:50 AM
3

The problem for men is reconciling the fable of romance with actual female nature. That’s why avoiding marriage is essential.
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 10:02 PM
3

Feminists killed nightclub hookups. #metoo killed workplace romance, Online dating killed in person singles meet-ups.... It’s only a matter of time until incentives have to be handed out to men in order to cajole them into “taking responsibility” for mostly feckless women. Stay cool, keep GYOW!
/r/MensRights28/07/19 08:48 PM
27

In an ideal world she will get locked up in Cyprus for years with no way to make direct contact with the UK.
/r/MensRights28/07/19 08:41 PM
3

What you have to remember is that it’s natural for her to do what shes doing, don’t judge her for it but don’t give in to it either. It represents the vestiges of hardwired instincts that survived our evolution. If you’re emotionally attached in any way, you need to ghost her, immediately. That should be a given. She will emotionally manipulate you. If not, you can use her more annoying habits as practice for holding frame in awkward situations. How? Always say no. When she inevitably asks “why …
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 08:35 PM
-1

A man can be sexually submissive without being stupid, however. Just look at the gay divorce rates (lower than heterosexual rates) compared with lesbian divorce rates (higher than heterosexual rates). In every relationship there’s a power dynamic where one person is submissive and the other dominant, even if people like to play switch sometimes. That shows it isn’t how men are expressing their sexuality that’s the problem.
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 08:10 PM
40

Real bros before hoes
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 08:02 PM
3

.......and this is why the three pillars of MGTOW work really really well. A guy who gets caught out in this situation who isn’t married, remains childless and isn’t legally cohabiting can only be caught in one of three situations: Moving to where he’s legally living in prep to move out independently (e.g. ‘legally living’ with relatives) Kicking her out of where she’s not legally living (the inverse of 1, where she goes back instead) You both carry on living where you stay as usual (e.g. you’re…
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 07:56 PM
47

I say remove the hostesses. Let all women experience ‘male privilege’ and true equality, just like they want... by making them all work real jobs like real men,
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 07:46 PM
7

He purchased a get out of jail free card for the price of a cheap hotel room. Now he gets to write her off as being friends-with-benefits and get on with his life. After all, that’s what an “open relationship” actually is and it’s what guys should be doing (with adequate protection) while they’re young. Ultimately, he got the GFE without the long term simp tax.
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 05:03 PM
5

....or go full on Charlie Sheen... :p Good post.
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 04:55 PM
6

Divorce statistics favour using AWALT as a general rule for dealing with natural female hypergamy, however, there’s always exceptions to the rule. Said exceptions are the women who are worth your time. It’s on a par with women who claim “all men are like that” with regards to the masculine instinct to spread ones seed far and wide (polygamy), which is a very good rule for intelligent, discerning women to filter out bad men. Are either of these two ideas sexist? No! They’re good old fashioned com…
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 04:48 PM
1

If you’re not happy being single you’ll be even less happy with someone else. Like attracts like when it comes to people, contrary to popular belief. So, in order to be happy being single, you’ll just have to realise the type of person you’ll attract if you don’t stop being so negative about yourself! If you’re looking for commitments to make your life more meaningful, start by committing to one day per week of pure solitude, doing things that you want to do as a free, independent person. That c…
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 04:41 PM
2

It’s all quite simple to practice: No legally-binding cohabitation, no marriage, no children. None of that prevents you from enjoying a good time with women, if that’s what you want. You’re just doing it all on your terms, rather than society’s terms. Many here will say that going monk is a good option (which it most certainly can be) but it’s not the only option.
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 04:16 PM
2

Don’t tell anyone anything you’re not cool with the rest of the world knowing. Maintaining transparency in everything you do also is the key to having an easier life, as it essentially kills people’s ability to lie about you.
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 04:07 PM
6

I gave it an up vote. You're entitled to your opinion but as No_Speed_Limit187 pointed out, you're going through a breakup right now. Now, let me present a case for AWALT as a rule, to which there are exceptions. Rather than using ONS statistics (I'm British), I will take some primarily US statistics instead (Source). Almost 50% of all marriages end in divorce: 41% of first time marriages failing, 60% of second marriages failing, 73% of further marriages failing. The average first marriage that …
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 12:15 PM
10

NTA - He did her husband a favour while sticking up for his own brother, also shouldn't insult someone for being a virgin if you're a girl who's trying to pretend to be a virgin.
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 10:40 AM
2

Simps do us the biggest favour going. They make our lifestyle cheap. By wasting all their money on pointless conveniences and women, cheaper means of production are invested in to create a greater supply of goods and services. Think about how easy it is to live independently these days. That's all thanks to the simps and the epidemic of single mothers lowering the bar to make it all possible again; otherwise us working class folks would still be in tradcuck times having to pool resources to surv…
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 10:28 AM
6

The man talks the talk about what women can be like but really he's a PUA with some serious misconceptions, like at 6:40 he says that men could end women's rights at any point. The truth: Women spend the most money and are also simultaneously responsible for some of men's most expensive non-essential expenditures, they make up 85% of all consumer purchasing decisions (direct+indirect). Ending women's rights would set men back 50+ years in terms of ease of access to common resources, as it's wome…
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 10:21 AM
72

Blocked to a lot of UK folks. If you find you can't get in, use http://archive.is/7MWE5 instead. "Research released earlier this year by LeanIn.Org shows that 60 per cent of male managers admit they are now uncomfortable mentoring women. That’s a 32 per cent jump from the previous year and it’s terrible news for professional women wanting to fast-track their careers." Correct. Also knowing that men are more likely to serve as mentors than women are and the fact that men seem to benefit more from…
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 09:43 AM
2

In the sense of not wanting children, some MGTOW could be considered antinatalist I suppose. However, the motivation for many MGTOW not having children mostly comes from the fact that men are by default denied equal access to their children and then extorted for child support that doesn't actually go to the child regardless. It's a practical solution to a bad deal when the Earth is overpopulated anyway. It's hoped that in the future, artificial wombs will be able to remove the need to engage in …
/r/MGTOW28/07/19 09:24 AM
3

Politicians didn’t take feminism under their wing, they used feminist rhetoric to promote demand-side economic policies, while simultaneously ensuring that funding gets diverted to demographics who in studies have been shown to be more likely to spend their spare money on luxury consumer purchases. It’s interesting that you’re willing to generalise the MRM and MGTOW while simultaneously criticising them for doing the same. Here’s a funny fact: Not all MGTOW are anti-feminists, and neither are al…
/r/MensRights27/07/19 08:32 PM
2

MGTOW have nothing to do with men’s rights activism though, which is something you ought to know if you’ve spent any time around the community. Some might happen to be MRAs but most aren’t. Most don’t care one little bit about political activism because they believe the entire social system is unfixable. People here keep mentioning MGTOW as though it’s a movement but it isn’t, it’s a lifestyle choice based on not cohabiting, not marrying and (generally) not having children - that is all. With th…
/r/MensRights27/07/19 07:46 PM
1

I work from home and write my uni thesis for my masters at home ... but I do everything else alone too!
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 03:45 PM
7

We are getting closer and closer to a world with abundant resources. That’s messing with people in unforeseen ways,
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 03:36 PM
2

“In hindsight, I should’ve talk to them,” she said in a text message. “Although I personally don’t think the outcome would’ve been different.” ​ No, talking to them would have made the whole thing work in their favour. Fuck them. She knew there was sod all to say. The only honest one of the bunch.
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 03:16 PM
1

It's technically 'extradomestic violence' if it occurs outside the house but then people would differentiate it and the statistics would show a decrease in overall 'domestic violence'
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 03:05 PM
18

Not a single mention of the child's father in the story. Seems to me like it's a crazy single mother with rage problems.
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 02:47 PM
4

I totally agree with this. They're also not afraid of Game Over because they know they can just insert another one (if you catch my drift).
/r/TheRedPill27/07/19 02:05 PM
1

There are two main benefits that I see to being in a relationship: Legal financial/benefits/tax loopholes and pooled resources. Of course, none of this works if the partner screws you over. You actually have to trust the person. It also doesn't have to be a sexual relationship - it could be two friends who simply want to rule the world! ​ Some examples of perks for British people, some legitimately endorsed, others are questionable in terms of ethics: People can "first time buy" two houses indep…
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 01:45 PM
4

Definitely a troll
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 12:54 PM
7

My seat is my seat and I'd expect the train company to provide an appropriate equivalent if someone unfairly sitting in my seat is disabled in some way. Pregnancy is not a disability, however. The people who stared should have probably offered their seats if they're happy to be that judgmental.
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 12:52 PM
1

More like r/MGTOW brings hemp... because we're self-sufficient!
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 12:38 PM
7

Not divorced, not married, no commitments. I'm going my own way because I have the time, the money and the know-how to live a better life than what I feel I'd get by sharing everything with someone else. I hang around here because other like-minded folks tend to have cool ideas for things I can do with all the spare time I have.
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 12:36 PM
4

People who use the service in general constitute a red flag.
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 12:28 PM
6

If a vampire comes knocking at your door and you invite her in, that's one thing; seeking out a vampire to invite in is just looking for trouble. I'm normally not in favour of blaming men for the actions of women but seriously.. what a grade F moron. He paid money to import a bride from a third world country and funded her entire first world lifestyle. That's practically begging for a false allegation of some kind. But what makes it worse is that he married her. Now she can hold him to ransom wh…
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 12:25 PM
1

The MGTOW concept should remain apolitical. There should be a political party that's based around MRA, however, one could be both an MRA and going his own way as a personal choice. The reason why MGTOW shouldn't become a political choice is because politics is just another trap designed to keep everyone working on the plantation. Think about it. Organised religion (the church) was one of the oldest methods of controlling the populace, which has been replaced with a senate/parliament made up of o…
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 12:05 PM
12

It sounds like she was just using him for citizenship. Hopefully his lawyer can get her green card revoked, as it sounds like she may have committed a crime of moral turpitude (https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-s-crime-moral-turpitude-according-us-immigration-law.html). That would mean he doesn't need to divorce her and risk losing half his stuff to get rid of her. Of course, it's highly recommended to divorce anyway, to avoid assumed parentage issues if she goes feral and tries to ge…
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 11:30 AM
74

It’s to stop them femspreading. They like to cross legs at the knee. She’s actually hating on her own sisterhood too but journalists are all full of shit and hate men, so they don’t mention that part
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 10:21 AM
8

For those in doubt: https://www.quora.com/Do-any-moms-out-there-sit-on-their-son-s-lap-when-they-are-teens-or-adults-like-when-they-re-in-a-car-rickshaw-or-for-a-hug-Have-any-sons-ever-had-their-mom-on-their-laps I always check screenshots reflect what’s on a real page.
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 09:11 AM
1

No special skills here. Essentially, it was women who openly showed me how dishonest traditional relationships are, putting me on the path to GMOW very early on. I used to watch female friends openly manipulate their male partners by switching the bitch rage off/on at a moments notice. When I say openly, I mean with her giving me a sly grin as he folds to her drama-inducing mini tantrums, sometimes with her even going as far as to whisper in my ear about how easy it is to control men. When all y…
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 09:04 AM
2

That sarcasm could be because her man had the balls to make her use a registry office to get married without a flashy ceremony. Not that it’s any better short term mind you.
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 08:21 AM
42

Good man. It’s now so easy to find anything you want online that even pornstars are having to go to new lengths to sell their wares.
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 08:11 AM
5

Have you tried ordering our nachos instead? They come with Salsa, Monterey Jack Cheese and Jalapeños.
/r/MGTOW27/07/19 07:57 AM
3

Working on my masters thesis because having an ordinary bachelor degree with honours isn't interesting enough for me.
/r/MGTOW26/07/19 04:03 PM
1

A C&D letter from a law firm will likely set you back about £350 with consultation time. It’s a first port of call to warn someone that if they continue their offending behaviour that you intend to pursue civil legal action. (Source: An old quote from Hegarty Solicitors)
/r/MensRights25/07/19 11:15 PM
10

Yes a lot of women like to be choked while being dominated. I know two women who had full blown affairs where the side-business was choking while receiving anal
/r/MensRights25/07/19 11:00 PM
1

There’s nothing wrong with helping the opposite sex at all. However, women have a myriad of reusable sanitary products available to them but deliberately choose expensive disposable options. I am all for the government offering free reusable sanitary products to everyone in a bid to reduce poverty. However, I don’t believe that the government should be mandating that every private institution offer disposable sanitary products and that’s the line they are slowly pushing toward. So it wouldn’t ju…
/r/MensRights25/07/19 10:47 PM
1

It’s nice to see a clearly non-materialistic man walk away happy and content
/r/MensRights25/07/19 10:16 PM
2

If it’s “her body, her choice” then women also have to remember “choices have consequences” and those two concepts cannot be reconciled. Men cannot directly choose when they have children, only women can. The very demands made by women to ensure they’re paid and their job is secured, while they disappear for up to 52 weeks (basically a year) to have a kid, is what has resulted in a pay gap. Often, an employer has to source other people at their own cost to cover, while ditching said cover at the…
/r/MensRights25/07/19 07:03 PM
1

If all men wanted was sex, professional paid prostitution would be the norm as opposed to “free” sluts
/r/MGTOW25/07/19 06:44 PM
2

Used to listen to him before he retired.
/r/MGTOW25/07/19 06:40 PM
3

As a MGTOW I agree with this. End all podium girls, end all modelling that doesn’t serve a practical goal. Why? They’ll then have to go work real jobs!
/r/MGTOW25/07/19 06:35 PM
6

Wait... the girl who parodied a mental health disorder has... a mental... health... disorder? Bitches be crazy!
/r/MGTOW25/07/19 03:01 PM
4

We don’t. We just let them believe they have won... after we’ve made them shift the goalposts a few times.
/r/MGTOW24/07/19 09:15 PM
10

Win! Another victory for men long-term as that now means cohabitation is less risky.
/r/MGTOW24/07/19 07:21 PM
1

Tom Cruise doesn't age because he's a high-level operating thetan with complete low-level control over his body. If you want to be more like Tom, you should read Dianetics!
/r/MGTOW24/07/19 05:22 PM
5

She was cheating on him with younger men but it wasn't published until now: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7188227/Nagging-wife-charged-controlling-behaviour-telling-husband-tidy-house-finds-love.html ​ In terms of 'coercive control' legislation, this is precisely why cohabitation is a big no-no for MGTOW. Refuse to buy her all the stuff she wants and you've exerted illegal 'financial control'. See: https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/controlling-or-coercive-behaviour-intimate-or-fam…
/r/MensRights24/07/19 03:34 PM
2

Agreed. That's why MGTOW will win out in the end, simply because it's apolitical and men of all political persuasions are waking up to the truth.
/r/MGTOW24/07/19 03:21 PM
5

You're not alone, you're independent and self-sufficient. There's a difference. Friendships are optional and you'll likely encounter at most 5-6 people in your lifetime who have any semblance of loyalty, if you're lucky.
/r/MGTOW24/07/19 03:19 PM
14

That these women need men to have money so they can mooch regardless of time period? Absolutely.
/r/MGTOW24/07/19 02:58 PM
4

So she wants to leave STEM because an ignorant tool didn't support the rational points of information she was discussing? This is something men have to just deal with all the time, with the results often demonstrated in r/MaliciousCompliance ​ This is why STEM jobs are so well paid because it's not as cut and dry as people think since there are many ways to approach a problem and often many valid solutions with varying degrees of complexity that people don't have a complete handle on. ​ She simp…
/r/MGTOW24/07/19 02:54 PM
2

The closest to a good FU is letting an unfaithful woman trap herself into single motherhood through her own actions: https://www.mgtow.com/video/vasectomy-baby-trap-4/ ​ Wasting 2 years out of a good 15+ years of the time she has available is at best a neutral result.
/r/MGTOW24/07/19 02:47 PM
1

She's a caricature portraying satire, nothing more. People need to stop giving her attention unless they genuinely find her entertaining. She's not a good example compared to others who did similar in the past. ​ She's just like Krista ('The Femitheist') from 8 years ago. For those who are unenlightened, she was a satirical portrayal of a radical feminist who promoted "International Castration Day" 8 years ago by detailing how men of age should get milked "one last time" and then forcibly castra…
/r/MGTOW24/07/19 11:57 AM
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With the advent of birth control, she's not wrong. I'm most certainly not interested in making babies as much as simply achieving masturbation++ when I feel like it. That and sex isn't even the best option anyway *-jobs are better.
/r/MGTOW24/07/19 11:41 AM
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I made the assumption that the comment was made by a different woman, since the screenshot doesn’t make it clear but the writing style differs. I’m only talking about the original poster in the screenshot not the comment below it. My apologies for talking cross-purposes for so long. With regards to the comment below the post in the screenshot, I agree with you, since an acquittal would usually (but not always) mean an accusation has been refuted through a thorough investigation and a trial invol…
/r/MensRights24/07/19 12:42 AM
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All her statement is saying is that: “just because someone hasn’t been caught, doesn’t mean they didn’t do it” Her statement doesn’t preclude the idea of “that also doesn’t mean they did do it”, which is just as true She’s not saying that someone who hasn’t been caught doing something has definitely still done it. Do you see why there isn’t actually a problem? She’s just making a pointless statement, it’s true but still pointless.
/r/MensRights23/07/19 11:53 PM
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Correct. She made a pointless statement saying that if a man isn’t charged it doesn’t mean he isn’t a rapist. But she didn’t straight up say all men are rapists, although it’s possible she feels that way.
/r/MensRights23/07/19 11:27 PM
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No because it only takes one woman not to cheat in her lifetime to disprove it.
/r/MensRights23/07/19 11:15 PM
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Well, in terms of general interaction, it’s fine to befriend single mothers but not fine to have any kind of sexual relationship with them if their child is very young. This is because it would be unfair on the child to see “potential fathers” come and go constantly. Unless you’re willing to play the role of being a stable provider for her and her child, you’d likely be wasting her time as well as your own. A MGTOW would not want to do that as that would put him at a massive financial risk anywa…
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 11:12 PM
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They can claim discrimination all they want, as a patient, you’re openly allowed to discriminate provided they have staff available to accommodate your requirements and there is sod all they can do about it in many countries. For example: “If the gender, age or cultural background of your GP matters to you, ask if the surgery can accommodate this before you register.” (https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/nhs-services-and-treatments/can-i-choose-to-see-a-male-or-female-gp/) In the UK, we c…
/r/MensRights23/07/19 10:25 PM
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That question needs more clarification before it can really be answered accurately. Do you mean our thoughts on single motherhood vs. a nuclear family? Or Do you mean our thoughts on interactions/relations with single mothers generally? Or Do you mean our perspective on single mothers where you’re the father?
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 10:10 PM
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I think you’re confusing MGTOW with MRA, the former is an apolitical choice, while the latter is inherently political, like feminism. MGTOW could technically be feminist allies who simply don’t believe in cohabitation, marriage or children because predominantly male judges keep screwing men in child support and divorce cases. The odds of that being the case for any MGTOW at an individual level is infinitesimally small but it’s not impossible, as we are not talking about mutually exclusive positi…
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 10:04 PM
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What about requesting a male staff member on the grounds of not wanting to be alone with a woman in general? It’s currently an allowed form of discrimination, much like how you can demand a member of the same sex performs a strip search in police situations. Doing this would create a demand for male workers as well as effectively demonstrate that feminist policies are causing sexism, rather than curing it.
/r/MensRights23/07/19 09:50 PM
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This is true, much like how if a woman hasn’t been caught cheating it doesn’t mean she isn’t a cheater. But it’s a pointless statement, what’s relevant is whether you have or haven’t been cheated on (or, in her case, whether she has or hasn’t been raped)..
/r/MensRights23/07/19 09:42 PM
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What sir_manalot said except you can do it all for free. Cultivate a persona that demonstrates wealth through material signifiers (e.g. posing with an expensive car, posts of you in exotic locations, always wear expensive looking clothes, expensive looking watch etc.) and the young women will come to you. You don’t have to spend any real money to get what you want, just look like you have the money/resources to spend. Then you can have all the benefits of being a sugar daddy without the drawback…
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 07:42 PM
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My prediction: Simps will adapt by being double/triple/quadruple cucked over their lifetimes in trying to chase the dream, meaning there won’t be enough money to satisfy the thots. This will result in the whole house of cards crashing down as thots begin to get more and more desperate. We can already see the early result of this with the single motherhood epidemic, where multiple babies each have different fathers because one source of income isn’t enough anymore.
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 07:12 PM
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The woman’s chair stops women crossing legs at the knee, the female equivalent. It’s a submission that was aimed at both sexes that the media deliberately portrayed as a one-sided anti-manspreading message.
/r/MensRights23/07/19 06:58 PM
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The evidence cannot be used in relation to any other case, unless there’s existing sufficient legal ground (unrelated to the discovery of the evidence itself in the original case) to use it in another case. To try and do so without a required warrant or the use of discovery could jeopardise the other case. The police have made these kinds of mistakes before and paid the price. Even parallel construction techniques aren’t foolproof.
/r/MensRights23/07/19 06:51 PM
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That very likely could be true. The perp could have admitted something lesser while the accuser claimed something more serious happened. The CPS can only present a set of facts which align with the accusation made when making a case for prosecution. People seem to also forget that a defendant’s legal team can also use discovery to build a solid case too, and a lack of access to required evidence, even if a confession has been made, is enough to throw out a trial. A good legal team can force the …
/r/MensRights23/07/19 06:28 PM
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Yes. It didn’t work because I stopped everything at the first sign of non-consent, hugged her, told her everything’s OK, escorted her out the building, went for a long walk with her and then proceeded to friend-zone her. In a nutshell, she popped over to my house for some quick casual sex the same day I’d first met her, we were on the bed making out, she was touching me all over. At the very last minute, as I started kissing her breasts, she said no and acted extremely flustered. Figuring there’…
/r/MensRights23/07/19 06:12 PM
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Lauren Southern changed it easily on government issued ID, filming the process from beginning to end. He’s from Canada: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gGpZSefYvwM In the UK, we have a similar process on passports: https://www.gov.uk/changing-passport-information/gender Once you have changed your passport via doctor note, just apply your changed gender based on title to bills and everything else you use. After two years have passed, you can then apply for a Gender Recognition Certificate and then …
/r/MensRights23/07/19 05:43 PM
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If a man can choose to become a woman without changing their genitalia, taking hormones or conforming to any feminine gender norms, then female privilege dies. A lot of radfems appear to be anti-transgender but not anti-transsexual for this very reason (as in it’s fine if they take hormones and cut their cocks off). The intersectional feminists have screwed things up so badly that men can essentially obtain access to many female privileges by simply asking for a word to be changed on some legal …
/r/MensRights23/07/19 05:33 PM
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Ironically, that forum is the free route without any chargeable materials associated with it, it's probably one of the very few not-rip-off options available to desperate simps. It also features some fun-to-read free ebooks like "The Book of Pook" which end up teaching you why going MGTOW is ultimately a superior option. As if you bother to learn the true meaning of the 'lessons', you'll discover that "inner game" (the process of working on yourself for your own self benefit) is more important t…
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 05:16 PM
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214 is the number of convicted false accusers convicted over a 10 year period. So of the 214 people that got convicted for falsely accusing men of rape, only 2 of those accusers managed to get men charged with rape. It's a deliberately misleading argument. ​ Also, what this doesn't take into account is the number of false accusations where the police did not go ahead with a prosecution based upon CPS advice. Not understanding what "consent" means, being drugged/drunk or being "vulnerable" are bu…
/r/MensRights23/07/19 03:30 PM
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To be fair, the airline had a member of staff escort them to give a witness statement with a separate person informing the aggressor that she was going to be charged with assault. They did what they could within the constraints of the law. They just couldn't physically intervene without legal liability.
/r/MensRights23/07/19 03:11 PM
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Buy a very cheap plot of land out in Wales, forge your own coat of arms and you can have your title changed to Lord. That's without having to "identify" as anything.
/r/MensRights23/07/19 03:04 PM
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Thanks BBC for failing to understand how those kinds of investigations work. Guess what the best way for a man to defend himself in a rape case is? "No comment" if you lack an alibi showing you weren't at the scene... or reams of evidence suggesting clear consent during pre-trial discovery (if there's evidence to suggest sexual intercourse has occurred). ​ Guess what this means? The Police absolutely must have access to the contents of every possible communication from both the victim and the ac…
/r/MensRights23/07/19 03:01 PM
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They're sorry only because they realised the genie is now out of the bottle. People on both sides of the precipice know they're not safe from attack. Everyday people, conservatives and liberals alike, are now more in agreement than ever before on practical issues, forcing political groups to make their views ever more extreme in order to create a false sense of competition. ​ This is where apolitical choices like MGTOW win out long term.
/r/MensRights23/07/19 02:27 PM
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Keep in mind: If you're married and in-line for wallet-rape, it might sometimes be better to keep her around, while you prepare by siphoning off resources long-term.
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 02:14 PM
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It's very symbolic of russian roulette, right?
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 02:12 PM
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Solid Snake Duke Nukem Jesus Christ
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 02:09 PM
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Haha true. Unless you've got a broken hip though it's not really a red flag for a woman to be fat.
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 02:00 PM
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The burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. Feminism is a symptom, it's not the actual disease. Occam's razor suggests that if everything would otherwise be perfectly fine, feminists wouldn't exist. Likewise, Hanlon's razor suggests that feminists generally don't intend to harm men. ​ Do you believe MGTOW is simply a response to feminism? I'm genuinely curious.
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 01:54 PM
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This post is chock full of red flags. ​ "Please be open to the idea of having a relationship. Not seeking a sperm donor only." Translation: If I change my mind later down the line then I want your money, not just your sperm. ​ "Please be educated, between the ages of 34-45" Translation: I want a man who has a good job and plenty of money. ​ "Please be laid back and passive. No anger issues or overly dominant" Translation: I want to be in charge, you better not get mad when I try to make you do t…
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 01:37 PM
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A bit like woMAN right? Let them change all the words used in formal environments, it's fine. The end result will be a bigger separation between formal and informal language, with words specifically designated for formal use only, much like how things currently work in Japan. ​ Older people know that both extremes ("Left" and "Right") want the same terrible things. The end result will channel people towards apolitical choices to resolve problems they're experiencing, like MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 01:26 PM
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That's like saying if you refuse to sign a contract, you can't give advice about the service you refused. It's nonsense. Marriage is a lifetime contract and nothing more. It's almost like saying that you can't speak ill of Scientology without first being a Scientologist (after all, they have a billion year contract on offer if you want to join their Sea Organisation).
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 01:14 PM
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It's no more harmful than growing up with shows like Charmed, Buffy The Vampire Slayer and Xena: Warrior Princess, where women take the lead and men are generally used as punchbags or sissy supports. Fantasy is just that, fantasy. Without such shows to contrast with Hercules and the like, things would have been far less interesting. ​ Hollywood is not screwing up by trying to show women in an empowering way, it's screwing up because they're portraying women in a manner relative to masculine valu…
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 01:03 PM
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There was a reason for that originally. It was to provide comedy relief to successful men who had to endure many mistakes to get to the top, while simultaneously reassuring less successful men that life shouldn't be taken so seriously (as mistakes happen). ​ For example, there's a reason Matt Groening's depiction of a typical working class family (The Simpsons) fell out of popularity. In their case, the irony being portrayed has been lost on people to the point where the show had to become a par…
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 12:15 PM
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Why is her best friend not an orbiter? Did she go through her quota of spare wheels that quickly?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/07/19 11:54 AM
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You're right. Romance describes the processes of doing things in a "Roman way", as in your traditional methods of courtship with sex/marriage merely being a tool to achieve the goal of having children, as that was the norm and later became essentially mandatory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lex_Papia_Poppaea) for the general public under the Roman Empire. It has to this day been the dominant model because it helps a population survive disease and natural disasters, while ensuring minimal change…
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 11:30 AM
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Now ProJared needs to do the same thing. The more of these truths we uncover, the more we can demonstrate the correlation between going to the press and blatant lying. It should be criminal for journalists to run the stories without a police crime number to prove a report has been made. Likewise, the bar should be lowered for suing people who claim they were sexually assaulted by a named person without first having filed a police report.
/r/MensRights23/07/19 10:19 AM
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Deal. Men will take the curfew and women can take all the night shift work (including construction, highway maintenance, border patrolling, firefighting, medical work, police work, vehicle recovery, railway operations, taxi driving, fast food, shelf stacking, haulage, delivery work etc.) that men can no longer do. As those night shift jobs are now exclusively available to women, day time jobs in those types of fields would all end up going to men because equality quotas (which women wanted) work…
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 09:52 AM
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If it is a concerted social engineering attempt, it’s likely because it’s a safer option than alcohol in terms of the rates of violence and a much lesser likelihood of physical dependence. Think about it, if the next generation uses cannabis and not alcohol, almost 50% of most violent crime vanishes (based on reported crimes recorded as part of UK ONS), while people are still able to access a gentle sedative suitable for social situations. Of course, there’s another side benefit. The change in p…
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 12:01 AM
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I’m a classical liberal. I believe in licensing legal prostitution, offering alternatives to marriage and letting everyone have free speech. Also, all currently illegal/controlled drugs should be legally licensed for end-user consumption. I also have no issues with women sleeping around, painting themselves in tattoos or getting abortions of their own.. as long as they’re not trying to make out they’re the Virgin Mary, shaming Chad for his epic pump and dump skills or expecting me to be attracte…
/r/MGTOW22/07/19 08:10 PM
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Be glad you didn’t marry or have kids with her. You’ve been doing the right thing up until now. She cheated on you. Now, you’ve gotta keep doing the right thing by leaving her and not turning back. It’s going to take a long time before you’re completely over her, but you will get over her. You’re better off starting the healing process now as a single man than risking any more time with her. You must know both in your head and your heart that staying will only make you feel more and more bitter.…
/r/MGTOW22/07/19 07:50 PM
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Politics like that do not really belong in the workplace but once someone is indoctrinated, you can’t help but feel sorry for them. It’s all about behaviour. Don’t even bother trying to change her mind with words. She feels she is right, therefore to her, she is right. I’d ignore the Karen. Keep all conversations with her extremely polite but also terse, as you’re purely focused on your work and nothing else. The rule is not to be curt but to be courteous without really being social. Unless she’…
/r/MensRights22/07/19 07:28 PM
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1 - The media’s views are becoming less and less relevant year on year as subject experts debunk even the “best researched” stories on a daily basis. People are slowly starting to realise that all journalistic articles are fake news and that journalism itself is essentially old fashioned quackery. We currently don’t rely on the media, so why throw someone under the bus and start now? 2 - it demonstrated that his ex-wife lied using actual undisputed facts (court documents), yet there’s no actual …
/r/MensRights22/07/19 06:31 PM
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As the video and associated evidence shows, he did all the correct things that society encourages to end the relationship. He got shat on for it. He’s evidence of why MGTOW is a good thing
/r/MensRights22/07/19 05:59 PM
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Or, make the standard so high that it has to be a deliberate/malicious lie to receive a prosecution. Feminists and women in general have nothing to worry about here and we have good solid proof of why. In the UK, we’ve had around 200 false allegation prosecutions for rape over a 10 year period, it’s rarer than the number of instances of men being falsely accused (where there wasn’t any malicious or deliberate intent). Likewise, for false claims of domestic violence, it’s a very small percentage …
/r/MensRights22/07/19 05:29 PM
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Or we could stop women crossing their legs at the knee, which is the female equivalent of manspreading,
/r/MensRights22/07/19 05:02 PM
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Isn’t that basically what a hen night is for? (One last chance to shag a different person, that is...)
/r/MGTOW22/07/19 04:14 PM
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I think it’s a form of peacocking so they can give the appearance of willingness (to do dirty things in the bedroom) Who’s more likely to be a dirty little sinner? Well, the girl who’s been branded, of course!
/r/MGTOW22/07/19 04:07 PM
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Hypothetically speaking. Julius Caesar being played by a woman would be very a appropriate historical allegory for future generations to see following the collapse of our society. Besides, it’s not all bad if it does very well happen. Hypothetically speaking, he could be played by a black male woman, right?
/r/MGTOW22/07/19 03:00 PM
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iPhone SE because it’s cheaper to buy it outright (as little as £220 for 32GB new or £65-£150 used) when you factor in the 5 year support lifecycle, relative to Android devices with similar general capabilities. This is because even a good Android phone manufacturer still only offers 3 years of consistent security support and usually only 18 months of feature updates, while cheaper manufacturers don’t seem to patch their phones at all.
/r/MGTOW22/07/19 02:56 PM
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I’m all for people choosing their own path on this one. Both secrecy and openness will work, as the truth speaks volumes and can never be truly silenced. The bachelor tax wouldn’t work because gay marriage is a thing, besides does anyone remember what happened to the Roman Empire? Even if homosexual marriage didn’t count, transgenderism allows men to legally identify as women without the requirement to take any hormones or have genital reassignment. That’s assuming we’re talking purely marriage.…
/r/MGTOW22/07/19 02:32 PM
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I’d say our enemies have let us win due to a sudden lack of secrecy on their part. Think about it. We now know all the red flags which help us identify who and what to avoid, We also know our enemies will betray each other and weaken their own standing long-term because it’s already happening. Just look at how intersectional feminists are getting on. There’s no end to the havoc in their ever-dividing camps, there’s more dividing lines than there are denominations of Christianity. Likewise, most …
/r/MGTOW22/07/19 02:12 PM
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Decoding this can be quite confusing, allow me: A woman can technically be a husband in a lesbian marriage, that could be her current partner. Also, if she’s not had sexual intercourse before, she’s still technically a virgin too. Most people don’t count mutual masturbation or dry humping as ‘losing it’. Likewise, her partner may have been artificially inseminated or they could have adopted to get those two kids. Pretty cool eh?
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 06:01 PM
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1 don’t sign anything. Your name does not go on the birth certificate or any other birthing documents 2 don’t say anything to anyone except your own legal team, if anyone asks, she’s just a friend 3 demand to both be at the birth and to get a legal paternity test as soon as possible 4 keep her sweet to prevent any false rape allegations, be supportive, even after you’re proven not to be daddy
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 05:54 PM
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This happened because people learned that Netflix isn’t to videos like Spotify is to music. Due to companies screwing the pooch in trying to compete on exclusivity, the streaming market is falling apart in general. Piracy has once again become the better option even for people willing to pay, as they can simply VPN and pay a donation to the sites they use for an ad-free experience. For example, 123movies beats Netflix hands down for both TV and film streaming. Likewise, people can automate BitTo…
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 05:47 PM
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We know that all the female paedophiles publicised in the news had money/resources but were lacking in looks... basically female incels...
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 05:34 PM
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I’m British. Signed.
/r/MensRights21/07/19 05:28 PM
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Haha. I got a story. So me and a former boss went to a strip club that was near to our office at the time. A mutual friend who’s a former actor (in his 50s, donning a leather jacket, but still looking young) decided to join us. The former boss spends a bunch on an older stripper that he has previously taken a liking to. Said boss also paid for me to have a private dance with a nice young lady (I wasn’t really into it). After all the dances were over, the older one joined us at the bar. Our mutua…
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 05:21 PM
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It means they’d try and reason with a non existent patriarchy by spouting a bunch of nonsense, kinda like the feminists do now.
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 12:26 AM
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Simps going chameleon would be awesome. They believe in a patriarchy, so they’d form a MGTOW union (a living contradiction) and begin bargaining with it. Kinda like how the pope bargains with god on behalf of all catholics....
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 12:24 AM
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Plus it potentially gives away your location over time if you’re trying to hide it.
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 12:17 AM
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Bunnies also have to out-fuck myxomatosis, as they don’t have vaccines for their deadly viruses. Whoring around doesn’t benefit us humans, it does benefit rabbits.
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 12:16 AM
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Yes. That and a private dance is just as robotic/artificial as what you get in the PS2 GTA games. Just not attractive.
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 12:10 AM
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+1 to everyone who left a reply. Also, add some less pretentious bullshit to the thread for me! You must have some ideas too, right? Has anyone here tried being a global citizen, working a job where you go from hotel to hotel, meeting people around the world? That’s seems more 21st century MGTOW!
/r/MGTOW21/07/19 12:05 AM
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I live like Marvin The Martian. He’s a Spartan, right? MGTOW benefit from freedom and flexibility that no cohabitation, no children and no marriage brings. I’m only giving examples of how to take advantage of that to better customise your own way of living. I don’t follow all of the examples (that should be obvious, as many are mutually exclusive) but many are indeed my own choices where I speak from experience. Everyone should come up with their own ideas to experiment with in their own lives a…
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 11:36 PM
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If my “ultimate reason” for being on Earth was to “please a woman” I’d denounce my atheism and ask my creator who I must have raped/murderkilled/tortured in a previous life to earn this “job” in my current one.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 05:25 PM
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Dick Masterson as in the guy who cucked Maddox? He put hoes before bros.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 05:20 PM
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Just wait for the #metoo accusation that loses him his job, as even though she consented, I suspect that a blowie on the job is still a sackable offence
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 05:18 PM
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You’d know it hasn’t been stolen, since it can’t be mail ordered and is a ‘same day’ affair. He is also willingly selling his sperm, which means he knowingly owns the risk in order to receive the money on a regular basis.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 05:01 PM
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It means to put other priorities before being social (literal: ‘before social’). I deliberately chose that to draw a contrast, one could sub it out for asocial (literal: ‘not social’) without altering the intent that much.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 04:44 PM
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It is a #metoo backlash now that it turns out the woman who started it all did so to detract from her own crime of sexually abusing a boy
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 04:00 PM
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I’m glad that we MGTOW don’t have to worry about credibility, that’s a problem for MRAs. After all, we’re not a group but instead a potential demographic.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 03:36 PM
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A man called Joshua Gray to be exact. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/mp_ZpxI3GD_qqKP1qfaZ3OyKf70/appointments Look at his historical appointment to Innovative Artists Ltd, which is Belle Delphine’s company. He helped her do the photography and the bath water stunt as her “Marketing Consultant”. I don’t feel bad about revealing this part because the business address is a virtual office, not her actual “work” location.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 03:31 PM
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Or follow the rules to the letter, keeping what you do a closely guarded secret. Men who are independent, talented and ante-social (rather than anti-social), won’t be reprimanded for their natural personality (it’s an asset) or asked to mentor anyone else. It also lets you duck out of these crap events.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 03:19 PM
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Nudes would likely be sent sometimes. Findom girls have to advertise to compete with the far more honest hardcore pornstars.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 03:07 PM
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No more than one pint of beer or small glass of wine accompanied by a meal, on any one given day for me now. No more than 3 days per week do I have any alcohol on any given week, and never two days in a row. ​ You shouldn't abstain entirely. Alcoholic drinks are a gastronomic delight as part of a good meal.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 02:44 PM
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Prostitutes do work out cheaper. I did the maths with some work colleagues once. Some people like the chase. It's like hunting wild game vs. going to a butcher.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 02:13 PM
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Nice. Shame we can't all do that quite as well as he did: https://www.theguardian.com/money/shortcuts/2012/may/15/what-can-you-buy-just-with-1p-and-2p ​ One can still deliberately choose to pay in person, using cash, using a mixture of coins but you're limited in how many can be 1p, 2p, 5p, 10p, 20p, 50p (unlimited £1 coins tho). They'd have to count each and every time but there's far less counting to do than with this situation.
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 02:09 PM
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Interesting angle. I agree that it's difficult to be an incel but not impossible. Celibacy doesn't imply virginity unfortunately, nor does it have to be a permanent situation. One can still be "involuntarily celibate" (that's all the word "incel" implies) without being a virgin. ​ #1 means someone is a typical virgin, not an incel #2 can mean someone is an incel, if they're actually being denied by everyone #3 means one is engaging in either deliberate chastity or a vow of celibacy ​ The irony i…
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 12:46 PM
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It's like the tradcon of managed programming languages
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 12:21 PM
1

If you're feeling hungry. there's the 10 Piece Chicken McNuggets Meal (Medium) in the US... (https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/meal/chicken-mcnuggets-10-piece-meal.html) ​ Of course we get 20 McNuggets in the UK as a share box for very cheap (£5)
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 12:18 PM
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Yes, WWALT (Women Were Always Like That) but natural circumstances and a subset of laws helped to keep things under control. ​ Historically (in the 1700s-1800s), the difference was they had to keep it secret because in many countries adultery was a criminal offence, punishable by a prison sentence of anywhere from 1 to 5 years. Some societies would even punish the person they cheated with too, even if (s)he is not married or otherwise unable to freely mingle with others. Additionally, many count…
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 12:00 PM
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This is 100% true. The basics just exist as a starting point to avoid the most common pitfall that changes ones life. Other cool things a MGTOW can do with a similar level of effort helps avoid other life problems: Only keep the material possessions necessary to live a happy, healthy life (minimalism) Prepare fresh, healthy food yourself each day, rather than eating heavily processed junk food Walk/cycle to places, rather than driving, if it takes less than 1 hour to get there (you’ll live longe…
/r/MGTOW20/07/19 09:43 AM
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It might not be. There's two ways to look at it: ​ 1) Some guys want to bang pregnant women. She's like a guilt-free option for those who don't want kids 2) It's a trap. Women can't get double-pregnant, so you might not use protection and then you're really screwed!
/r/MGTOW19/07/19 05:21 PM
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If you want to be cheeky, you can add a little extra on the end... "I prefer to keep my personal and professional life separate but I'm sure HR will tell you everything if you ask them nicely enough..."
/r/MGTOW19/07/19 05:08 PM
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"If you truly believe all the convoluted shit on this subreddit then you are destined to never get with a woman" ​ MGTOW at its most basic usually consists of: ​ Not getting married Not cohabiting Not having children ​ Some people add their own rules to that mixture because they are going their own way. Not very convoluted at all. ​ "You are all just mad because woman don’t want you when you feel entitled to a woman" ​ Many of the men here already had (or have) women in their lives and want to b…
/r/MGTOW19/07/19 04:50 PM
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If they're in violation of the rules, definitely report them. We should test to see if these companies actually will follow their own rules.
/r/MGTOW19/07/19 02:06 PM
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I decided to do a quick check to see if what you claim is true. She appears to pay taxes under the company name of Innovative Artists Ltd in the UK: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/11633830 ​ I hope that helps.
/r/MGTOW19/07/19 01:22 PM
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Nothing wrong with the trainload of dicks. It’s when a woman claims to want monogamy following a trainload of dicks and then engages in hypergamy as an alternative, thinking it’s still “less slutty”. A trainload in the past is a very good way to tell if she will cheat in the future because by that point she won’t experience sex as being connected with love any more. A man pumping and dumping is fine if he’s GHOW as he doesn’t want a relationship anyway, only sex. Personally. I think going monk i…
/r/MGTOW19/07/19 06:13 AM
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He posted the same thing on this thread without any logical reason or context too: https://www.reddit.com/r/comedyheaven/comments/ceqj1t/that_was_the_only_tweet_on_the_entire_account/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app It’s a troll post
/r/MGTOW19/07/19 06:00 AM
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This post is rightfully labelled important. The ideal scenario is two confirmed bachelors who are both healthy and working. Otherwise the whole situation is a risk not worth taking. Rule #1 is always look after yourself, that means get the means to love your own life independently from a financial perspective first! Let me tell you about a guy I knew called Peter. He lived with his girlfriend and didn’t ask for much as he just wanted a simple life. Due to the job he works not paying much, he liv…
/r/MGTOW19/07/19 05:44 AM
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Yep. She also attempted repeatedly to pull out of the “games journalism” scene not that long after because she clearly knew who was implicated from gamejournopros. While she was stuck in the midst, she helped run articles like this: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/australia-culture-blog/2014/nov/28/alanah-pearce-tells-on-her-internet-trolls-to-their-mothers
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 11:55 PM
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Alanah predates Twitch, proving the concept of the oldest profession ;-) On a more serious note, she’s not a gamer girl. She used to be an editor for IGN before they did proper video-format reviews. In fact they kinda used her.....assets... to popularise the video review format over simple text articles.
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 11:45 PM
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The main difference is the end result. A MGTOW Chad wins long term, while Cock Carousel Stacy only wins in the very short term. She has 15-20 years to do her thing and settle down. MGTOW Chad gets 30-40 years to do his thing if he makes a success of himself in his personal and business endeavours, rather than settling for what he can get early. Why? Cock Carousel Stacy will “hit the wall” in her 30s (she will age rapidly, her looks will fade) and have no choice but to find a provider male (a man…
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 10:31 PM
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In the club: Imagine knowing a girl who will dance without asking you for a drink afterwards? When you eat: Imagine knowing a girl who will serve the food without expecting you to tip afterwards? On the street: Imagine knowing a girl you can compliment without expecting a dirty look afterwards? When you marry: Imagine knowing a girl you can give your heart to without getting cucked?
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 09:31 PM
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Let’s look at some figures: “Drawing on ONS data, Carl Benedikt Frey and Michael Osborne of the University of Oxford found that 33,000 secretarial roles had disappeared between 2001 and 2013, a drop of 44 per cent. That was just in London. In the UK as a whole it was a 47 per cent decline, or 163,000 job losses.” (See: https://www.ft.com/content/9420a7b0-d159-11e4-98a4-00144feab7de) 47% of all jobs in that area of work decimated in just over a decade. That’s a service-oriented area that’s female…
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 09:18 PM
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I believe it's because we ban showing nipples in public in any other scenario. A feeling of "Why should she be allowed to show her tits while I'm forced to cover up?" in disguise. ​ I think of family guy when I see it (Stewie got hooked on the boob!)
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 06:28 PM
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Women are actually at more risk as this generation consists of what the industry call "digital natives". This means that customer services jobs are less necessary than ever before even without proper AI systems or robots in place. It's non-AI electronic systems that are killing jobs currently. ​ Simple examples of automation which is gradually killing jobs that doesn't use AI: Need to buy food at the supermarket? Self-checkouts Banking? Most people do it electronically, even in-branch Booking a …
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 06:01 PM
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I'm all for pointing out AWALT but they both got what they deserved here. He was clearly cheating during her "business trips" and I suspect her "business trips" were simply her riding the CC (doing business) just like all the others. I'm a big believer in the old fashioned approach of (s)he who cheats, deserves nothing. If you're unfaithful and there's clear evidence of infidelity, you should lose everything you have if you were silly enough to marry and behave in that way. Both of them deserve …
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 05:49 PM
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This +1 The nurse was trying to give her proactive preventative mental health advice to go with reactive healthcare related to a physical ailment.
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 05:34 PM
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My mother is in a happy marriage with my father and they're both very liberal in their viewpoints. She basically preaches MGTOW and believes that marriage is unnecessary and harmful, that women and men can each live in their own houses with their own lives and still be monogamous to each other (with porn available as a legit alternative). She openly states that even if people want kids, both should still have their own houses available to them to escape to at any point for a bit of alone time - …
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 05:28 PM
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Seek legal advice to confirm this works in your country. However, I see no reason why you couldn't simply not get married and then ensure the following: ​ That she's legally living at a different property, either through renting or her paying a mortgage for it as a sole tenant That she's not got a set of master keys to your house (clearly marked spares may be OK) That her post for critical things (e.g. bills, contracts etc) for all of her stuff goes to her address That all of your bills and such…
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 05:16 PM
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Chad and Tyrone can be MGTOW if they're not cohabiting, getting married or having kids. But mistakes can and will be made given enough time, especially in the case of Tyrone.
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 04:16 PM
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Best route for him is to let her "change his mind" and enthusiastically accept with four fair conditions: ​ That no-one of the opposite sex is brought back to the family home, even people claimed to be friends That the agreement works both ways. He can also have relationships with other women That one can only spend money they've earned themselves on their "dates" but can otherwise spend as much of their own money as they would like doing so. In the event of any pregnancies caused by either of o…
/r/MGTOW18/07/19 08:02 AM
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I don’t think anyone here claims that women as a whole are oppressing us, quite the opposite. We actually make the claim women aren’t oppressing us because MGTOW actively make choices based around their own needs, rather than placating others based on some stupid, outdated traditions. We are also very well aware, or at least I am, that it’s mostly (often desperate) men responsible for men’s problems. When it isn’t, it’s usually still our own fault. Why? Because we take responsibility for our own…
/r/MGTOW17/07/19 09:10 PM
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If abrahamic religion is to go by, Eve created original sin through manipulation, albeit it was necessary for Lucifer to set us free. I say screw religion, as religion created the mess that is marriage. If Adam and Eve couldn’t get along when there was no scarcity in the world (and we know our world is full of scarcity), I say there’s not a lot of hope for the rest of us. Time is the only factor that saves some from the otherwise inevitable.
/r/MGTOW17/07/19 07:45 PM
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I say let these people go for it, let them even go as far as to push their view into the mainstream. The dam will burst and the system will begin to fail as babies stop being made. Of course, someone needs to work and jobs need to be done... that can fall on those very same women too. End result: Pump and dump open season for us with even less responsibility than before
/r/MGTOW17/07/19 06:28 PM
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Leeches disappear when you burn them.
/r/MGTOW17/07/19 02:24 PM
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Women who think that they are losing out on a career as a result of #metoo should maybe take a moment to reflect on how a cost-benefit analysis works. If competing women turn out truly better than male competitors, an employer will chose female every time. All that’s happening now is that when a woman and a man compare equally on paper, the man is slightly more likely to be chosen due to lower perception of risk. Pregnancy was one risk but now we have #metoo and false sexual harassment allegatio…
/r/MGTOW17/07/19 02:19 PM
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+1 for using Linux and LibreOffice to avoid vendor lock-in +1 to all of us for avoiding a different type of lock-in
/r/MGTOW17/07/19 01:48 PM
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The women’s chair is just as bad at least. It prevents crossed legs over the knee, although it may simultaneously block upskirting too...
/r/MGTOW17/07/19 12:57 PM
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Trump isn’t a MGTOW, he’s a serial cheat who uses prenuptial agreements that restrict disclosures to hide his affairs. The irony is his exes have been known to show more loyalty to him than they do their current husbands - proving that a lot of these women simply do what they do for power.
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 06:22 PM
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It’s simply an example of how even women aren’t safe from false accusations and slander by women. Nancy did nothing to ruin her husband’s business, she was simply another #metoo false accusation.
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 05:57 PM
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They're just another side of the same coin in a wider agenda built upon 'divide and conquer' strategies made to keep everyone under control. It just so happens that GYOW is way more beneficial to men in the here and now compared to letting the system get our way unchallenged. It's just like how "the left" and "the right" are made out to be enemies in politics, when no-one should realistically care in the grand scheme of things. It's just one of many distractions in the bigger fight against a mov…
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 05:25 PM
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Ugh. I was hoping that a DNA test would be done and child support payments would come from the biological father.. but.. nope! All on Mr. Provider! Terrible.
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 04:50 PM
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Firstly, let me make one thing clear. Life is a complex set of trade-offs where you only get one chance overall either way. No-one here will judge you as any more or less of a man regardless of which decision you end up making. If you choose to start a family with her and it goes bad, you'd get just as much support here as if you decided not to and felt some kind of regret. Likewise, if things go well, either way, we'd celebrate your success in the path that you've carefully chosen for yourself.…
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 04:38 PM
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If you've been wondering 'Why not just bang hot chicks who are attracted to money, and not give them any?'.... #metoo
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 04:05 PM
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Yes, that would definitely count, provided you're not dating. Pump and dump is a valid form of GYOW provided you're not expending too much time/energy on it, obsessing over trying to get laid is exclusively PUA territory at that point. Most importantly though, there's no one true way to GYOW. This article might give you a better idea of how MGTOW can differ in their approaches: https://happyhumblehermit.com/2018/11/09/the-different-types-of-mgtow/ Also there exists plenty of PUA commentary on MG…
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 03:28 PM
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He's married. That argument he's having with her over money is pure idiocy 101. That money isn't his now, he effectively signed it all away like a complete and utter moron. Did he not read the small print of the contract that is marriage? More young men need to go MGTOW and listen to folks like Tom Leykis
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 01:50 PM
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I think you're confusing us with the PUA scene, where these kinds of techniques make sense. Allow me to explain... MGTOW is about going your own way as a man. For most of us, that means not having any kind of traditional long-term relationship with a woman and not seeking acceptance/validation from women in the first place. No woman can "reject" you in a MGTOW lifestyle because her opinion of you is no more relevant than that of a homeless bum who "rejects" you for refusing to give him spare cha…
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 01:41 PM
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Epic get out clause on the mass NTA flagging of this post: "This post violates part of Rule 8: Don't submit stories where you are obviously NOT the asshole. If you were genuinely confused and you receive this message, you are NOT the asshole." ​ It's ironic because some people would consider him to be the asshole for not "supporting his sister" because family loyalty above all else amirite?
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 01:08 PM
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He will likely be proven right here. Irresponsibly rushing into one of the most one sided legal contracts ever so quickly is a bad move, that is assuming she doesn't outright reject his offer for being a complete simp (assuming he's not loaded).
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 01:04 PM
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He's 35 and knows his value because now he has the resources and respect while not being tied up in a relationshit. If she wanted to successfully get her car fixed for free, she should have approached a 19 year old mechanic when she was 5 years younger and offered a better "trade".
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 12:56 PM
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Should have known you'd troll them first. I guess they were the lower hanging fruit ;)
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 12:49 PM
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I was merely referring to alternative subs, nothing more. Something tells you have a very specific taste, so maybe this is more up your street: https://www.subway.com/en-GB/MenuNutrition/Menu/Product?ProductId=7148&MenuCategoryId=713
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 12:46 PM
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100% agreed. ​ To go one step further though.. In the UK, the police allow people to check if their partner has been violent/abusive in the past. We should have a similar system to allow one to check if their partner has ever accused someone of being violent/abusive in the past, where insufficient evidence was found. ​ (For those who don't know how that works: https://www.gloucestershire.police.uk/do-it-online/disclosure-schemes/clares-law-right-to-ask-right-to-know/)
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 12:36 PM
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@philmajohnson: If you're not a fan of pulled pork, why not try the meatball marinara instead? When you're done here, move on to r/Feminism, as it's the same type of sub (encouraging people to value themselves) but with a different taste (women rather than men)
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 12:31 PM
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It's almost like default (joint) custody is being enforced the way it should be... and it's almost like people actually feel pain when they're not able to see their children! Have any of these mothers perhaps considered the option to spend time with the children as parents together and NOT hold it against the fathers? ​ It's no surprise that men are responding to legal threats by making the concession of an equal 50/50 split and refusing to budge when it's often the very best situation they can …
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 12:19 PM
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Listen to Gibits. I'd add that a high frequency of sexual activity with the same partner actually ties in quite nicely with the psychological behaviourist theory behind Pavlovian conditioning, actually helping to reinforce a loving relationship if the result is positive every single time. This is also why traditionalists tell wives who are having a hard time (as stay at home mothers) to always greet their husbands in a very loving way when they arrive home even if they're not feeling like it. Th…
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 12:05 PM
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I would advise not to marry unless you're planning to have children and instead go down the route of learning to value time with people you actually love above all else. You can enjoy fucking all you want but if you keep going down this road, you'll end up rejecting decent men who actually love you and embracing many many guys who don't love you. The end result of that will be either a broken marriage, single motherhood or simply being single and feeling alone by the time you're in your late 30s…
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 11:53 AM
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That comment has fallout from a nuclear grade truth-bomb written all over it. I probably wouldn't have bothered with my slightly more sympathetic response if I'd have seen this thread first. Hoo-boy! Go grab a pint, you deserve it!
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 11:17 AM
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I hope what I'm saying makes sense and clarifies any misconceptions you may have. As this is r/MGTOW and not r/relationship_advice, I'm going to straight out say that you will (rightfully) find a lot of men pointing out what you're doing now as being THOTish behaviour - my explanation will cover why that is. @guccigrandma420: Women who sleep with many different men are labelled as sluts because they're trading the offer of sex in exchange for male attention as a general resource, akin to how a p…
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 11:06 AM
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Do not initiate a divorce yet! Do you have any friends who you’d pretty much trust with your life? If so, it’s time to call upon them for much needed help, now. Having a friend to shelter you enables you to do quite a few things to save you a lot of heartache down the line: 1) Temporarily store essentials under their name that you’re going to want to buy with plain cash outright (e.g. food, car, laptop, TV, phone) 2) Obtain clean access to a separate Internet connection and clean computer system…
/r/MGTOW16/07/19 08:51 AM
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Most notably, TRP still has not had any official reason provided by Reddit admins. The truth is likely because the documentary penetrated the mainstream and doesn’t suit Reddit’s own agenda - a bit like why The Donald is quarantined despite appearing (to a Brit like me) to just be commentary and/or fan service for what Trump is up to.
/r/MGTOW15/07/19 09:09 PM
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I just wanted to chime in and say that if you’re not at least pulling at least £2,000/year in interest on savings alone, you shouldn’t even consider at-risk investments yet, even if they’re said to be “low-risk”. This is because you should start off by building up a no-risk base which definitely maxes out all of your tax free allowances through both cash ISA and personal savings limits. Talk to your bank and they’ll explain the order of priorities based on risk vs. reward. I was advised to wait …
/r/MGTOW15/07/19 09:02 PM
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Yes it applies to Germany too. My mother grew up in Germany and essentially preaches a good 60% of the MGTOW lifestyle as dating advice for modern men and women. As in: “Women and men shouldn’t waste their time getting married” and “Both the man and the woman should have their own house and only see each other when they want to unless they choose to have kids” Keep in mind she’s married, produced a traditional nuclear family and stayed the course. Even she doesn’t think much of modern women, goi…
/r/MGTOW15/07/19 06:31 PM
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“Officer.. She told me she was a virgin, I only consented to sex on that basis and made this abundantly clear to her. It turns out she wasn’t as she had already gone off with someone else behind my back as her own testimony shows. Does this mean we both raped each other or does this simply mean she’s full of shit?” I shoulda been a lawyer!
/r/MGTOW15/07/19 06:11 PM
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People should add to this and try to improve it! I should have made it a post, rather than a comment! If we all collaboratively came up with an ideal situation, perhaps the MRM could push for changes in the right direction. (I will stick to just not bothering with relationships) With the existing wording, turning lesbian isn’t much of a risk. A woman cant feasibly turn lesbian once the agreement is signed as her resources are his too - it’s all in and there is no individual property once it’s in…
/r/MGTOW15/07/19 06:04 PM
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That’s true, so wouldn’t that mean your already unattractive 5s and below have nothing to lose? Surely that could account for the number of land whales with kids at a young age?
/r/MGTOW15/07/19 05:11 PM
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Easy to fix. It all revolves around reproduction and linking it to property rights in a fair and just way that benefits the children while keeping both men and women on the straight and narrow. I would abolish marriage and divorce, replacing it with joint property ownership that begins at conception (and ends when the child turns 18) only after both parties have signed a declaration that the intended pregnancy is both voluntary and desired (the signing would be witnessed like a marriage). DNA te…
/r/MGTOW15/07/19 12:04 AM
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The uglier the woman, the less likely some other man is going to compete for her and the less ego-feeding false validation she’ll get that she’s above you.. treat you better so you don’t run off... or so the flawed logic goes. Except that many men see these women as “easy” which defeats the point, as she will actually end up with more false instances of false validation than a complete 10 would, as many men would see a complete 10 as being out of his league,and not bother at all. This will only …
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 10:35 PM
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Not seeing the livestream @.@
/r/MensRights14/07/19 09:29 PM
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I think he was justified in saying what he said. There’s such a thing as righteous anger, in his case, the wording was impolite but the tone was on point, If it was me I would have said in much the same negative tone: “I’ve paid for a window seat, he has paid for an aisle seat. We don’t have to be seated together but neither of us want the middle seat. Feel free to consult others to find alternative arrangements as we would have done the same had we not been given appropriate seats on this fligh…
/r/MensRights14/07/19 09:26 PM
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So how he handled being told no isn’t the nicest way to do things but it’s not sexual assault, it’s actually the opposite. He treats no as no and stops immediately, which is technically the right thing to do. If the only thing wrong with him is a bit of moodiness and frustration at dealing with morning wood... then he’s not an abuser in any way. Sure she has every right to want to leave him if it’s a dealbreaker but she also admits she left him on a whim rather, then proceeds to make blatantly s…
/r/MensRights14/07/19 08:59 PM
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To provide a little clarity: MGTOW aren’t necessarily MRAs although MRAs can also be MGTOW. Keep in mind the term simply refers to a man who wants to deliberately avoid one or more types of relations with women. For example, I’m not big on campaigning as an MRA but I’m most certainly going my own way because the costs currently outweigh the benefits in my own personal circumstances when it comes to having a long term sexual relationship, likewise, I make it a good professional policy to not be a…
/r/MensRights14/07/19 07:27 PM
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A list I would actually like to see: 1) Austin Powers - female protagonist loses her mojo making her unable to seduce her way through her mission to stop Dr. Evil (a she-male) 2) Passion of the Christ - just to see how audiences react when the genders are reversed, may trigger a realisation 3) Demolition Man - male protagonist still but is subjected to feminisation in a world ran by “genderless women”, male antagonist same as before 4) Mystery Men - invert it to be a comedy which pokes fun at th…
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 06:15 PM
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James Bond isn’t turning into a woman. MI6 are merely satisfying their gender equality quota. Plus Bond will be there to mentor the new recruit. Props to Hollywood if she goes MIA following her first assignment.
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 05:58 PM
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But if he’s spat in your cunt, he’s a keeper. At least until all his money is spent.
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 05:37 PM
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It’s not a James Bond film. It’s a spy thriller spin-off with James Bond as a side character.
/r/MensRights14/07/19 05:18 PM
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That has not always been true, if you go by where I live. A report in 2010 found 40% of domestic violence victims in the UK were male, yet only 60 places were available to house male survivors vs 7500 places for female survivors. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violence. As of 2017, based on ONS figures, women are currently twice as likely to suffer domestic abuse than men in the UK, however, the government pours significantly more than double the budget into…
/r/MensRights14/07/19 05:00 PM
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This one is easy. Here’s a list for you of less common arguments. For all the other more common arguments, read everyone else’s comments. Men can be forced to fight in wars in a lot of western countries (conscription) while women can’t be In the UK, women are routinely entitled to free taxpayer funded vaccinations which men are denied despite there being genuine medical benefits to men by having them vaccinated. Likewise for breast cancer screenings. In France a woman can lie about the paternity…
/r/MensRights14/07/19 04:30 PM
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He needs to squirrel away money and essentials where she can’t get to them and then prepare for the worst. Marriage should be a big no-no as well.
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 03:13 PM
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There’s nothing to worry about. Remember MGTOW is a personal choice not a political movement. It still benefits you equally whether 1% of men are making that choice or 81% of men are.
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 03:09 PM
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The traditional meaning: To mate with a man who’s good looking, charismatic and treats her like shit in her much younger years so that she’s got kids with the right genetic material and then later “learn her lesson” and settle down with a stable provider who can keep the kids looked after and the money flowing. As a concession and to keep the stable provider locked in, she will often have a kid with him too. The next level: Marry a stable provider and have sex on the side with a good looking, ch…
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 02:46 PM
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Do you mean Classical Marxism as in the workers owning the means of production? Or do you mean Communist Marxism where all property is common property and rights of private ownership are waived and all resources are allocated based purely on "needs" and resources acquired based on those with the capacity to provide them? ​ The former ruins feminism and is inherently anti-feminist, as it kills centralised systems of power, removes the need for a lot of political debate and puts potentially too mu…
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 12:43 PM
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+1
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 12:26 PM
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That isn't always true. If you know the rules, you can be a nice, patient, sweet, caring person and then walk away without any problems. ​ In my country it's fairly simple: With no DNA evidence proving you're the father, if you refuse to sign the birth certificate and if you're not married, you're not responsible until a disagreement is settled, unless you fail to take action when she applies to the CSA - source: https://www.gov.uk/child-maintenance/disagreements-about-parentage ​ In the event o…
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 12:22 PM
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This would be in the extreme only. I'm borrowing from already proven extreme ideas! ​ I would simply make the incentive an offer that women can't refuse and then let them "negotiate" the result with the men. I would make maternity leave pay equal to full salary for the full term + 1 year. I'd then offer tax-payer subsidised vouchers for luxury goods and entertainment once the first 2 children have been sired with the condition of the biological mother and father being both married and living wit…
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 11:59 AM
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My swallowing the red pill wasn't caused by my own experience but by others constant whining. I didn't get red pilled by women, I got red pilled by my fellow man many, many years ago. The realisation came about that life is far healthier, happier and easier to live without the inconvenience of looking after someone who simply wants to spend all your money without paying their own way. When you hear those around you complain that they're living paycheck to paycheck despite being paid the same amo…
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 10:45 AM
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Children aren’t salvageable in these situations but almost everything else could be. This not-legal-advice applies to the UK, check if it works in your US state. You will need three trustworthy friends to pull it off. 1) Gamble money away by pumping your spare cash into a betting account. Winnings aren’t taxable and thus can be hidden as credit in said betting accounts, easy to claim one lost it all, hard to check. Friend #1 is needed because he must provide ID to extract all the money non-taxab…
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 09:25 AM
15

If he is smart he will wait patiently, remain sweet and attentive then at the birth refuse to sign the birth certificate until DNA proof is available that the child is his... then he can convert to a non-committal open relationship where she gets nothing. Assumption: Child is not his.
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 08:40 AM
2

...because if men could actually “become women” in the physical sense then natural women would instantly become more disposable than men are right now. I don’t blame the TERFs for their stance, they can see what’s round the corner!
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 08:30 AM
12

I’m 29 and I don’t believe this is a generational thing. People just have more efficient avenues to “show off their assets” than ever before which shows the whole world up for how materialist it is.
/r/MGTOW14/07/19 08:24 AM
2

In the UK as of 2005, the conceived now gets the right to know from the age of 18 and the law now prevents anonymity, the child gets the last known address and some basic identifying information to decide if he or she wants to make contact. It’s also recorded, so the parents can’t actually hide the fact from the child long term - it’s something they will find out from medical records once their right to know kicks in. This means it’s essentially a Trojan Horse because you don’t need to raise you…
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 07:26 PM
2

Fathers don’t need to tell kids to go their own way, they’ll realise it on their own eventually. In terms of the gene pool, sperm donations are a valid workaround. More and more women want kids without men involved, happy to oblige... it’s basically a MGTOW trojan horse, a gift that keeps on giving.
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 06:47 PM
3

If they’re that weak, then he could do something pretty awesome to rectify the situation. He should invite some friends with some pint glasses filled with non-alcoholic beer and deliberately stand just outside said pub during peak hours as if he’s still frequenting the place. He’s a taxpayer so if he’s not on their property, he’d essentially force them to “waste police time” as he’s legally neither drinking in the street or illegally loitering. The police could show up to try and move him on but…
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 06:31 PM
4

That. ​ If the child turns out not to be his and instead the product of cheating, he could convert his situation into an "open relationship" and that would unlock the door for him to do whatever he wants in his spare time. She'd be too undesirable as a single mother to walk away, as a divorce would be a losing situation for her at that stage, so he could take the power back that way.
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 12:31 PM
3

HTML isn't the crucial part of the WWW invention, HTTP is. Prior to HTTP, a lot of application layer protocols were either too complex for non-techie idiots, relied upon real-time communication or relied upon the client computer not being behind a NAT. HTML could be replaced with PostScript or PDF as a presentation layer and still provide the WWW concept cleanly (both support the concept of external referencing and hyperlinking technically). In fact, HTML was replaced by many webmasters for quit…
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 12:24 PM
1

Welp, I guess she's fucked then
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 12:11 PM
13

In England you're mostly safe provided you don't give your (l)others a set of keys, don't let others store things in your house and keep proof of all of your purchases. Just make sure you have a trustworthy friend to keep a spare set of keys for you in case of a false charge of domestic violence (to help secure your property in your absence) and a will that states where your possessions go when you die. ​ Keep your life simple: No marriage, no cohabitation, no children.
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 11:29 AM
15

Facebook, Twitter, Gab, Minds, Instagram and all the other social media platforms are a bad idea for a more fundamental reason - the healthy limitations of the human condition with regards to social relations. Bryan Lunduke covers this one pretty well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaIV9cnAvyc ​ Traditional phpbb/vbulletin forum systems, BBSes, IRC, Reddit, 4chan and the like are naturally better options as they don't utilize emotive design patterns to encourage platform loyalty (such as "addi…
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 11:10 AM
8

General advice that both you and her should follow for each other’s benefit. She should have no reason not to want to do these things herself too! No marriage, no cohabitation and no children pretty much covers the majority of the common pitfalls. Do not have any joint bank accounts or any joint property ownership as that can be used to incur debts in your name. Don’t be a guarantor for anything either for the same reason. Do not buy specific things known to potentially incur a legal liability i…
/r/MGTOW13/07/19 08:51 AM
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He took a very correct approach to handling that CNN interview. If it was me in his situation I would have said instead: “I’m concerned, given the many recently publicised cases of false accusations, of both impropriety and sexual misconduct, that being alone with any woman who isn’t my wife for any period of time could put me and the campaign I’ve worked so hard for at risk” There’d have been zero comeback to that. CNN wouldn’t have even let the interview air. It’s not wrong to interpret risky …
/r/MGTOW12/07/19 09:57 PM
1

Get woke, go broke: https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/twitch-streamer-slams-slut-shaming-11k-donator-epic-rant-794055 Twitch banned her channel outright and they don’t ban for minor slip ups if you’re a streamer that makes a lot of money for the platform because it messes with the subscription model. They likely checked through all past messages (they keep everything because of the way the platform works) and found something that changed the story slightly.
/r/MGTOW12/07/19 09:45 PM
1

For those who don’t know: Brittany Venti is actually the closest thing to a unicorn that you’ll find. She’s a MGTOW comedy channel at the moment. At the moment she’s playing THE caricature of a stereotypical entitled female. She plays the whole of 4chan like a fiddle on a regular basis and is regularly making subtle adjustments to her persona to reflect the changing areas of societal ignorance. No-one actually donates large sums of money to her, what happens is that a chargeback is made almost i…
/r/MGTOW12/07/19 06:29 PM
1

The way I like to look at it is that men dominate in the martial arts while women dominate in the venusian arts. Both are needed as society requires people to both survive and replicate. However, were not at war and our living conditions favour survival to the point where martial arts are far less needed and thus far less valuable. However, this doesn’t mean women are at an automatic advantage as one can see. There’s enough people to go round, even with declining birth rates, meaning women are n…
/r/MGTOW12/07/19 06:07 PM
2

FOSS in the Linux-centric world is beyond hijacked when it comes to politics. Perhaps the real future of social media should be based on cryptographic signatures to prove identity and the active sharing of all signed messages via DHT. Want to censor someone? Gonna have to censor everyone as a whole. As long as at least 1 person hasn’t blocked the sender, the message will be available for anyone who wants to read it..
/r/MGTOW12/07/19 05:36 PM
1

It’s almost as if she believes half the human race wouldn’t care about their own problems.
/r/MGTOW12/07/19 05:27 PM
6

I won’t name it for their benefit but it’s a local small business which provides outsourced IT support to small to medium sized businesses with custom contracts. I’m working from home at the moment because my boss is awesome and is helping me to be less stressed while I finish my masters thesis, After that I’d love to stay working from home but I will probably be out and about helping to expand their reach into offering more IT security/pentesting contracts (finishing my MSc in Cyber Security an…
/r/MGTOW12/07/19 12:31 AM
1

Sliced tomato and possibly a beer battered onion ring or two? (You can get the latter as a pre-made oven pack)
/r/MGTOW12/07/19 12:21 AM
8

“You atheists sure do talk about organised religion a lot. Why?” Same flawed line of questioning as OP. Atheists in an atheist forum would naturally discuss why they’re NOT religious to exactly the same degree as religious people would discuss why they ARE religious in a forum for the religious. So why do men in a forum that’s dedicated to men who wish to deliberately stay single talk about why they’re wanting to deliberately stay single? Read again.
/r/MGTOW12/07/19 12:07 AM
16

It’s way better to be older and working, trust me. It’s not much different to your Uni studies but comes with some clear advantages. If anything it’s often easier. You can have the same care-free life when you clock off, shirk off as much responsibility as you like (provided you can afford the lifestyle you choose for yourself) except no-one can boss you around during your own free time, The best part? You get to be roaming around your own place stark naked! Right now, I get to work from home...…
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 11:57 PM
5

When I put hoes before bros like a fool as a long-term beta orbiter and watched a friend suffer. When she almost did the same thing to another close friend almost 6 years later, I went full on Adam Sandler (had a massive argument very openly and loudly) while still dressed in my (at the time) work gear. She announced our “friendship” was over... which I wanted it to be at that point. I walked off to buy a pack of B&H gold to chain smoke after and was over her within an hour.
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 11:44 PM
19

No marriage, no wallet rape, no abuse.... he got lucky.
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 11:35 PM
14

Maybe he should kiss her goodbye while she sleeps? #metoo
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 11:27 PM
7

Nah man, lucifer was a good guy,
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 11:21 PM
3

UK Office of National Statistics: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/763174/2017-abortion-statistics-for-england-and-wales-revised.pdf We don’t know how many an individual woman has on average but we do know the rates of abortion are gradually increasing at ages closer to the wall and decreasing for those who are further from it - would anyone like to speculate on why they think that may be? Look at the graph on page 8 (Figure 2b) to s…
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 11:17 PM
1

I’m loving the use of unintentional irony in your comment, I will give you +1 for that. On a more serious note: Do you think his statements are at least true of all the bad women as a rule phoebaliciouss?
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 11:05 PM
7

Cross post of advice I gave.. #3 is applied by me around clients outside of meetings (and when seconded) proactively as a preventative measure to avoid the optional invite occurring in the first place, as that stops future potential invites from eventually becoming expected convention (aka. a burden). 1) Explain that it’s a case of wanting to immerse yourself in your own world for an hour to recharge, that doing so allows you to be more productive. (Wording it in a slightly different manner to y…
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 10:51 PM
1

“Sure, I’d still love you, of course I would... platonically” It’s an easy shit test to pass.
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 10:22 PM
3

I rejected it when you could only buy beef jerky with it. But back then I still had a single core PC...RIP
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 10:20 PM
9

England
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 10:19 PM
9

It really doesn’t. It should stay on there like that for posterity. It actually helps the people worst affected to find out that they’re not alone. By the time the accuracy of the definition on a site like that actually matters it will already be a mainstream choice... a well-known buzzword for deliberately rejecting cohabitation, marriage and one sided partnerships (relationships)
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 10:18 PM
6

I’m waiting for when the skin is AR-projected to allow customisation, with realistic changeable voices and when it’s all fully scriptable for adding intimately interactive erotic literature. The day will come when the fakery of last-minute courtship rituals will feel more real with a sex doll.
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 09:47 PM
1

I don’t think people here inherently dislike women as a whole (good pun, amirite?). They dislike what many women are generally choosing to do and pointing it out for what they see it as. Some people also have personal stories of how a woman screwed them over, abused them or scarred them and may indeed hate a particular woman for that reason. It isn’t inherently toxic even if it seems that way, it is justifying ones choices. Needing to justify ones own choices is a very masculine coping mechanism…
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 09:31 PM
1

Sounds good but lie detectors aren’t accurate. There’s a far simpler way than that. Simply require all sexual harassment cases to have a police report with a crime number as harassment is a criminal offence. Then the accuser has to commit to filing an official police statement under penalty of perjury, where if any of the details are found to be untrue, they can be sued or even potentially indicted on criminal charges. The best part is that the claims can be challenged by the accused either dire…
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 09:18 PM
3

It’s not women we need to worry about, it’s /pol/iticians. I don’t think concern trolling really applies to something that’s designed to not be cohesive or centralised. We don’t have a constitution, a creed or a mission statement, MGTOW isn’t even a label... and in most cases we’re just a bunch of dudes enjoying our freedom! I feel for the folks who’re raging and I hope that I will never have to truly understand their deep-seated pain (for me there will be no marriage, no cohabitation, hot sauce…
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 08:58 PM
2

Hear, hear! Good man. Utility wins over aesthetics every single time. Wear those shoes until they’re completely worn out!
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 08:43 PM
2

If you’re working a lot of hours, you’ve got it bad, real bad, I only work 37.5 hours per week at most on paper, sure I lose a few hours here and there (sometimes you do a bit extra without claiming it if you enjoy what you do) but if people can, they should try to work fewer hours more productively and aim to get as much money in from as fewer hours as needed. None of us should be a slave to the system.
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 08:40 PM
1

User error likely accounts for 99% of all issues to do with condoms
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 08:35 PM
1

Use PIA ideally as they’re not only decent but they back some awesome projects like Freenode, which is one of the last surviving good IRC networks.
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 08:24 PM
2

Then there’s folks like me who actually leave full offline contact info available, can’t be doxed if valid contact details are already public right? If anyone does want to talk openly to me IRL they’re free to do so. What they can’t do is shame me on social media that i don’t use, so they have no choice but to reveal themselves if they have something to say. (You’d be surprised what happens when people actually dare to speak person to person).
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 08:21 PM
3

I will take the Internet back when CRTs ran at 120hz, 1280x1024 was still an acceptable resolution and 640x480 was the best quality full screen video option.... basically before normies messed everything up.
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 08:00 PM
1

In the workplace, if you’re not around an awesome all-male team like mine... you should make people assume you look down upon those who use work hours to discuss politics and religion. The end result is that people end up not asking and also at the same time keeping their views guarded as they don’t know how you may perceive them.
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 07:56 PM
5

Jokes on them if they don’t think men are capable of finding true friends because a bachelor tax would simply cause an uptick in no-fault prenupped gay marriages as a tax dodge,
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 07:47 PM
1

I’ve seen women come and go who’ve obviously slept with a higher-up. They end up crying for no reason when they realise that their own irresponsible actions have necessitated a covering of the bosses arse (firing while he can still do so at-will, while promising not to give an actually honest reference to spare her embarrassment when she looks for new work).
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 07:31 PM
2

I don’t think these services care if people are conservative or liberal, I think they care more if people are happily supporting a zero borders, matriarchal, new world order superstate... because if you’re against that, you must be a misogynistic woman-hating racist, amirite?
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 07:19 PM
1

That was my one reason for avoiding Gab (centralisation). If they’re happy to federate with everyone else and stay Mastodon-compatible in terms of server-to-server API support I’d totally get behind them.
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 07:14 PM
1

I'm sure a moderator will be able to confirm if it's removed by this subreddit or if reddit admins did it....
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 06:05 PM
7

A fantasy does beat reality if you think about it... That's why it's better to keep on dreaming than trying to turn those dreams into reality. Experiencing true NAWALT is about as likely to happen as praying to turn water into wine, there might be one person out there who did it but I can say with the most sincere and sure-fire certainty that none of us will ever be that person.
/r/MGTOW11/07/19 06:02 PM
14

That the so-called “oppressed” are now having to save us “oppressive” white people from actual white oppressors... the feeling is palpable!
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 10:22 PM
4

I’m not... Everyone else gets the milk for free, while he has to pay for the cow (and her children). So even if he does get some action as part of the orgies, it’s still not no-strings-attached for him. Everyone else gets a better deal. Even if he’s Chad and banging every hot woman he can find on the side (whether part of the orgies or not), he would still be better off NOT being married to her!
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 09:33 PM
4

Loving the sarcasm! For those with broken detectors: That’s no-strings-attached sex for everyone except for him, you know, the person who has to finance her desires. He’s either OK with it and thus a complete moron, or he isn’t OK with it and knows his life will be ruined if he doesn’t go along with it. Either way... marriage bad.
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 09:04 PM
1

£15k is close to the upper limit on savings when you start out for the first few years... unless you go full on Buddhist monk. The places where a £60k salary is offered are places which are expensive to live in (higher house prices) or which require transport to get to alongside the higher rate of taxation. For example, in London on £60k you’d realistically earn around £43,000 after dedications like tax and such, then lose at least £8,500/year on travel (e.g. using the railway on a season ticket…
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 08:58 PM
7

British (English) here. I hear the same kinds of stories from German and Polish people too. So I think it’s a pretty widespread phenomenon
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 07:18 PM
3

If her only preference is height, I’d say she’s less judgemental than most people. Bet she wants more than just height though...
/r/MensRights10/07/19 06:28 PM
3

I would assume it’s actually to block what many call “femspreading” (crossed legs over knee causing blocked gangways) and that the media aren’t publicising that version.
/r/MensRights10/07/19 06:23 PM
1

I think what you’re proposing is a good idea and there’s a clear demand for more support from many men who have chosen to stay single and go their own way - in fact MGTOW is becoming more and more popular because of how broken the system is. Anything that has the potential to fix some of the underlying societal problems which lead to MGTOW in the first place can only be a good thing. You may want to look at the works of (and talk to) Karen Straughan (https://m.youtube.com/user/girlwriteswhat) as…
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 06:07 PM
1

“Yes, I’d still love you... platonically” Gotcha now bitch!
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 05:47 PM
1

When we say “all women”, we mean “as a general rule” because it generally isn’t worth taking the risk.
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 05:43 PM
14

I think you’re confusing MGTOW with something else.
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 05:39 PM
1

In terms of affording a house it depends on how much you earn and where you live. The more you earn, the more money you can save over a shorter period of time. So if you’re earning say £24,000/year (national average in the UK) you’re probably looking at over half of that money disappearing from taxes and bills alone before you even buy food and cover transport costs. In that scenario, let’s say your house costs you £200,000 and you manage to save £5,000/year on that salary, you’d be looking at 4…
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 05:34 PM
2

Experiment and start treating life more like an RPG, taking on only the side-quests that you want to take on. ​ Like me you will soon find that: ​ The up-front honesty you get from your interactions with other men is more valuable That you can openly talk about what YOU want with other men without being judged That when you do favours for other men, the goods in-kind are of greater utility value Even if you don't know a man, you can still talk to him and make random conversation ​ On the other h…
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 12:29 PM
3

Simple: Get a decent STEM job or learn a good trade and don't waste your money. ​ Save up a Freedom Fund that's at least equal to your (equivalent) annual salary. This empowers you in many ways: ​ You will be happier in the knowledge you can now tell your employer to go do one at any point The above means you will now be more confident in negotiating as at-will employment is a two-way street You will see the "time value" of your money, giving you a better basis to judge your purchasing choices I…
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 12:10 PM
1

In the game of Tinder Top Trumps, nothing beats unemployed single mother with depression where "my kids are my world" - which seemed to make up 90% of the results here in Peterborough when I last looked. ​ I'd say this find is lucky by comparison, it's at least refreshingly different.
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 11:36 AM
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Disclaimer: I'm 29 and I'm lucky, I rarely get seconded to places as an "expert" where there's an abundance of bitchy women. Normally, I work with an awesome all-male team of IT engineers and do all my work remotely! ​ Time for a half-ranty bit of advice from someone who knows where you're coming from and how to overcome it, should you choose to stay rather than finding your first ticket out of there! ​ When it comes to lunch, just skip it or go elsewhere. Deliberately be the loner. ​ When it co…
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 11:11 AM
2

IANAL but since this is the UK, he should kindly offer to take her letter and concerns to a mediator. He should ask his daughter for her honest opinion in a neutral setting and see what she says. One can let the child decide and then base some of the result on that. He doesn't need to tell the mediator or the mother that is his plan beforehand and can simply ask the question outright on the day, allowing the mediator to have a neutral party audio-record a short session with his daughter. If he i…
/r/MGTOW10/07/19 10:31 AM
7

It is worth seeing if you can (legally) sneak some hidden recording equipment and start recording the whole thing (audio-only if worst comes to worst). The Uni might say it's not allowed but as it's a type of hearing, there may be laws that overrule this. A friend of mine did this with a dictaphone in a workplace hearing where audio recording was "forbidden" and ended up with enough leverage to get himself many months of fully paid medical leave claiming their false accusations resulted in his c…
/r/MensRights10/07/19 09:50 AM
4

I’m wondering what city that photo (right) was taken in, I’m assuming the McDonalds ad is photoshopped over a Great Northern Hotel or railway sign? Right? Right? We aren’t actually in clown world here too are we? :(
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 11:31 PM
2

IT is probably the most MGTOW compatible field of work. Just you wait until you get back into the field, you can automate away the work problems with ease! That plus sleep is at least 2/3rds of your life sorted, right? =) Plus when you have the money and good timing, you can walk away.
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 11:26 PM
15

Feeling that too brother. I spent more time crying when Aeris died than I’ve ever spent crying over a broken relationship. Heck, I got more teary-eyed over the end of MGS with what Solid Snake was gonna do with his remaining time (because FOXDIE). Most of my most meaningful experiences have been conveyed through the medium of video games and I don’t regret those memories one bit. Besides that, going for a nice long walk surrounded by trees, away from all the crazies, reminds me of why solitude s…
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 11:16 PM
2

It will make more sense if I explain where I’m from (Britain). I am not an accountant but well read on money as someone who is banking 2/3rds of his salary each month while wanting a low-risk existence. Over here it’s 40% tax (40p for every £1) at everything over £50,000, excluding what we call National Insurance (NI). It’s 20% for everything between £12,500 and the 40% figure. Refusing salary raises and swapping them for other non-cash goods is a perk that wins you a lot of extra money. For exa…
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 10:51 PM
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Hear, hear! Sounds like you’re evaluating what business people call the Opportunity Cost. While some may say “nothing ventured, nothing gained”, the landscape more resembles a lottery with a lifetime supply of cigarettes as a prize... a double idiot tax that you can’t pimp away.
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 07:29 PM
2

Birth rates are at an all time low worldwide (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46118103) and as such, it is unlikely that enough humans will be born to satisfy the replacement rates needed for even strangers to be in the room to comfort us as we die, short of other dying old people or perhaps when children see their grandparents life support switched off. ​ Men simply don't care any more and women are going that same way due to their own misuse of the unintended power they were given due to a c…
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 07:17 PM
1

Even if you only let her a single room in your house, the legal liability is still more costly than the money she contributes to gas, electricity and food. So I'm not sure that works out beneficial in the long-term either.
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 06:53 PM
1

The person who coined the phrase didn't have a chance to finish it. ​ Behind every success is a woman... waiting to stab you in the back.
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 06:51 PM
1

Be a bro and help him with his emotional issues. Also, chameleon may be the right approach until he "gets it" for himself. When he sees how happy you are doing what you do for yourself, he will start to wonder. It also keeps the women he interacts with open to the idea that you might be blue pill yourself, which can be useful in some social situations if you keep your own business extremely private but need a woman around for a one-off/rare events.
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 06:43 PM
9

General hobbies: Computing, long walks, reading up on random new things and video games. My passion: Taking advantage of the freedom to tweak the levels of adventure/crazy in my life due to banking loads of spare cash and having plenty of free time.
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 06:33 PM
15

He was some other woman's cuck while she was CC'ing. He didn't need to be "on ice", it's such a perfectly lucky situation for her that no-one can even accuse her of that! It's like wanting someone dead but then someone else murderkills them instead, sparing you the dirty accusations and the prison time... ​ MGTOWrath has it spot on with this one >_>
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 06:28 PM
2

Sounds like what you're proposing is similar to the round table associations that exist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round_Table_(club)) They use professional contacts to get men in touch with other men who can help each other to succeed professionally. Women are excluded and have their own equivalents (which to my knowledge are defunct/dying). ​ Round table associations are similar in how they can help to the more charity-oriented rotary clubs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotary_Internation…
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 06:17 PM
1

They're helping the cause. Men can outlast women in these scenarios beyond easily through not supplying resources. Getting to keep one's hard-earned money and not having to buy her things? Sounds very MGTOW to me!
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 06:00 PM
2

Maybe I'm a little too skeptical here but it sounds to me like he's actually a cuckold and she's just not making that clear to him. The key phrase here is: "she used to like sex when we first got together and she had plenty of sex before we met" ​ I suspect she's probably still getting good sex from someone else on the side now she has her 3 kids, just not him.
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 05:54 PM
1

Yagami Light is made of awesome (Death Note). We all secretly wish we could be like him (but not be stupid enough to get caught).
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 05:50 PM
5

This is indeed a big problem but in the real world, men can combat it somewhat by making good decisions outside of staying single. ​ What I do where it's feasible: Save money, don't spend or borrow any money Buy less stuff, use it for longer (true happiness is based on utility value, not market value) Work fewer hours or refuse salary increases which would push me into higher tax thresholds (perks/expenses ftw!) Refuse to donate to charities which prioritize women (sorry Cancer Research UK) Refu…
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 05:47 PM
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You're right about that being savage but he clearly still carried on having sex with a cheating thot rather than confronting her about it. That's just as dishonest as the cheating, except he deliberately intended to cause harm without any real benefit to himself there. That makes him an awful person and indeed more awful than her. ​ To be fair, however, there does need to be justice/karma/whatever to keep evil people in line. There's a certain amount of poetic justice in her not being able to as…
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 05:40 PM
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Hear, hear! She can always have second place and go for the friend zone..
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 05:16 PM
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She be panicking because she's not got long left if she wants her own children. In a way we ought to feel for her because she only really has two choices if she keeps going the way she's going: ​ Have kids she'll later regret with a guy she isn't really attracted to in desperation... Go childless and single due to getting too old and thus lacking options ​ I doubt it's body weight that stops her finding a man, as I'm sure we all see fat women pulling reasonable guys all the time. I suspect she h…
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 05:13 PM
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Yeah, I might have forgot about the social housing priorities being rigged (despite mentioning it in another post on a different thread... oops) >_>
/r/MensRights09/07/19 05:03 PM
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Add UFC to the list... Ronda Rousey getting her arse handed to her was the best thing I'd seen in a long time.
/r/MensRights09/07/19 04:44 PM
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Not bad, although a potential cautionary tale.. She'd better have a decent partner who never leaves her or she'll be stuck surrounded by crazy!
/r/MensRights09/07/19 04:41 PM
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There is one exception to the rule: If you're a fugly single mother who got "first timed" at a young age without contraception (or the sense to get an abortion) then you're worth less than a homeless man with shit-stained trousers. ​ No amount of feminism can fix that bias.
/r/MensRights09/07/19 04:26 PM
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The Tom Leykis approach seems to work universally. Acquire resources for yourself that you only want for yourself and enjoy them. When a woman comes foraging for your resources, you provide the minimum required to get everything you want from her without requiring any long-term commitment. ​ At the time: You end up happy, she ends up happy. Long-term: You end up happy, she's found happiness elsewhere. ​ Beyond that: ​ If you don't have a fatherly instinct but you still feel you need a biological…
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 04:14 PM
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You can't guarantee protection from the accusation but you can guarantee the accusation results in legitimate civil action as a result. In the UK, a solicitor will charge about £300 for a quick C&D letter following a false accusation and you can always escalate to civil action once charges are dropped upon presenting proof of not being there at the time of the made-up incident if the accuser has gone fully public with an accusation. ​ The best approach is similar to the Mike Pence rule of “never…
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 03:56 PM
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What PrinceRaj53 said but also.. We're surrounded by advertising, marketing campaigns and other influences which link sexuality with romance. The reason why marketing is done this way is because men make loads of money so that the women can spend it all. Men don't make as many emotional choices regarding purchasing decisions as women do and thus it's easier to sell to women than men and at a higher price (Example: https://money.cnn.com/2016/03/07/pf/pink-tax/index.html). Women could simply opt t…
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 03:03 PM
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Disclaimer: This is the opinion of a 29 year old Brit who has had IT jobs in both big and small companies. Mostly been working with the same all-male team for 5 years but have been intermittently seconded to places for months at a time with some of the most vindictive female managers.... This advice is probably only useful if you're in a STEM field. Your mileage may vary. ​ It's an internship, therefore there are two simple choices that can both enable you to win long-term but both will require …
/r/MGTOW09/07/19 02:49 PM
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Although correlation does not equal causation: https://publichealthmatters.blog.gov.uk/2019/06/12/new-evidence-on-alcohol-related-harm-to-people-other-than-the-drinker/ ​ "Data from the Crime Survey for England and Wales show that in about half of all violent crimes the victim perceived the offender to be under the influence of alcohol. Data from the Office for National Statistics show that in 38% of cases of rape/assault by penetration (including attempts) the victims reported the offender had …
/r/MensRights09/07/19 12:27 PM
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I lack academic papers on it but there's been roughly 1-2 news articles every single year on the decline of clubbing in the UK citing ONS figures and industry lobby group concerns. ​ Some examples: ​ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11794636/Half-of-UK-nightclubs-close-in-ten-years-as-Brits-abandon-rave-culture.html - 2015, claims that lack of policing and a 'crackdown on fun' are a factor ​ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35820320 - 2016, claims UK Office of National Statistics shows…
/r/MensRights09/07/19 12:02 PM
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As long as she's single and he makes sure to use as much protection as is humanly possible! She's not the one with the marriage/commitment and as we all know, marriage is a worthless trap that costs men everything and gains men nothing. It also works both ways, if a man wants to have an affair with a married woman and he's single... all the more power to him. ​ Men shouldn't play the game until it makes favourable/logical sense to do so.
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 06:22 PM
1

"Women and children first" in emergencies, still often applied illegally to maritime situations "Never hit a woman" even if she's actively hitting you as a social norm with "white knights" illegally policing it Women get shorter prison sentences and are treated more leniently by the courts than with men in general too Women in prisons get perks which are not offered to men such as massage sessions (in addition to gym, TV.) Homeless women get priority over homeless men on social housing schemes (…
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 06:15 PM
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Probably because people up-vote what they agree with and not everyone on this sub-reddit is going to wanna talk about automation, science, DIY, bespoke repair works, construction, engineering, design and other areas that those GTOW will naturally have many more hours available for and much more strength to excel at! ​ I do agree we need to see more of that "look at me and this awesome thing I made/did" inspiring content getting posted and up-voted!
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 04:56 PM
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It is exactly this that killed a lot of the clubbing scene in the UK. Risk of violence from drunks combined with the new risk of false accusations from women (and unnecessary male-only bar/entry costs). Not saying nightclubs sticking around would be a good thing but the irony is that feminists won't have much to complain about as the venues where they claim to feel "at risk" close... and the free drinks/meals they're so used to dry up as a side-effect.
/r/MensRights08/07/19 04:48 PM
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I commented NTA on that and even went as far as to suggest matching the contribution and putting the combined sum into an evenly split trust fund for each kid just to drive the point home. She only despises him because she is having to pay for her betrayal with a constant reminder every month.
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 12:53 PM
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I think there's negative comments because GYOW isn't some kind of movement and isn't looking to misrepresent the truth. Think about it. This subreddit is a loose-knit bunch of people who happen to have all made a single choice, who aren't afraid to express their true feelings. It's naturally not going to be as cohesive as a hobby group, a religious group or a political group. There simply isn't a narrative that can be constructed for people who make the simple choice to go their own way, pay the…
/r/MGTOW08/07/19 12:33 PM
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