Question for Indian brothers here

PrinceRaj53 · 2020-01-05T11:52:24+00:00

Are you sure you can't find a woman

Why do you indians always start your questions with the most idiotic ones first?

Finding a woman is never a problem for anyone bub. LTRing her is. The thing is, I as an Indian teenager, have more knowledge and experience than your average indian adults, specially regarding women and female nature. With that knowledge and experience, I simply cant be a slave to your tradcuck culture and willful ignorance that indians force on each others, because I did not spend my childhood obsessing over kareena kapur or katrina kaif, and actually focused on the reality and gynocentrism that is cloaked in our tradcon culture.

Spending too much time online

There you go, a perfect display of willful ignorance, brought to you by another indian guy. Congrats.

I think you should take a look at this for once :

https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/aqlefb/whos_oppressed_now_an_indepth_look_at_the_current/

Oh and be sure to search on duckduckgo.com about these :

"7 out of 10 indian women cheat in relationships study"

"Indian husbands biggest victims of domestic abuse 2017 study"

I am sure you will find some interesting stuff there.

Okay, so there goes the legal aspect of "why as an Indian I should not get married."

IMO

Yup, that says it all. Mommy said marriage is good, so my opinion is marriage is good.

I simply cant blame the indians who say they hate their countrymen, because some indians are truly ignorant about reality.

it isn't that difficult to find good women here

What is "good women"? Good for what? What does "good" mean in this context? And how does that in any way stop a gynocentric society or the asymmetrical legal system against men?

And even if she's "good", that has to translate into a INR amount or reduction in expenses. Which means basically unpaid slavery.

Dowry is a no go because indians and their legal stupidity. Secondly, Most women don't cook how I can, or the way I like, if at all, and cleaning I can do better.

As for sex, I can sexually pleasure myself by going out and doing it in various ways than any woman ever has, and when I have been with women I'm doing all the work, positioning, fucking, etc etc, which is fun occasionally, but gets tiring. It's like planning a huge romantic weekend and she just has to show up on time to have things done for her. Wheeeee. Relationship!! (Excuse me, I had a feel of vomiting, I will be right back)

Ah yes I am back. So where are we? Ah yes, good. So "good women"? So, the tradcon definition which include Moral and ethical? Why the fuck would I care about that? That serves no benefit to me.

So define "good". Unless she's just giving me cash and shutting up, and staying out of the way, I guess she's a food source when the zombies take over.

Alright. Let's forget all the practical and factual points that we mgtows say and start from your tradcon culture. So, just a basic question from my side :

Can your indian culture reverse human evolution that all women have gone through as humans? Can your indian culture and tracon-ism reverse evolutionary female nature? Can they rewrite female biology and female psychology?

The answer is : no, they can't. Because that is practically impossible. All they can do is give you a false hope of an all in one package and an illusion of being in control, while opening the package lets you know that it's empty. Everyone knows here that indian married men are one of the biggest miserable ones and sufferers of their own decision of getting married. A man need to be utterly foolish to marry an indian woman lol. Indian women are one of the most manipulative and vile ones, specially in relationship. Why would I as an Indian man sign up for that nonsense lol? Because religion and mommy said so?

Speaking about traditionalism, I will add something to it, as it is not as simple as that.

Women are a byproduct of the time they exist in, therefore traditional women can only exist in a fully functional traditional society with full male authority in which the culture, norms and most importantly consequences for not being traditional need to be firmly in place with full masculine authority. But in this world, where none of that is in place, you'll only get a "wannabe tradcon" women. Except you'll get the worst, most toxic kind who on the surface appear to be all you're looking for (chameleoning) but at their core they're simply hand picking all the rules from the old and new world to so they can have it all.

This is the typical traditional girl of india. Why would a sane man sign up for this nonsense?

Old times or present, it does not matter. Women were always like this. The only difference is in old times men and women did not have the luxury to exercise their inherent nature and hence everything seemed well.

It only makes the "old women" or "women from old era" a more preferred subclass.

As a teen school student & casual fling-er, marriage to me is spending money, time, energy and effort into making a declaration to a bunch of people who are there to enjoy free drinks and food about how you are going to sign a one sided lousy contract to get a fake "all in one" package (lie spread by the religious dumbfucks, for which excuses vary from some "tax file" nonsense to whatever the excuses are) to "exclusively" see the same woman and her same fucking face over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, every single day, every morning/evening/night, that too without makeup. And you will have to endure this for the rest of your life.

Dont know about you, but this from any angle, does not look like a good deal for me.

Marriage is simply the indian version of bitch speak.

Men who spout this emotional nonsense about connection, "soul mate" and all the bs stuff should not call themselves men as well. That literally screams beta. And then the same guys wonder why their women cheated on them, while they were waiting outside the function or office like the good billy beta they are.

Eventually these "mah soul mate/mah love" guys get pushed out. Either these guys get cheated on, while kept for other reasons (financial/emotional/dishwashing/child care/domestic labour) or discarded by their woman. Sometimes fast, as in a breakup over an app. Sometimes slow, as in “we need a break,” so that she can try to lock in the other guy with the same frequent, enthusiastic blowjobs that she told her boyfriend "you are being selfish while asking for it too much".

You see, Women throughout history, always had duplicitous desires, evolutionarily :

(1) sexual satisfaction from the man the woman wanted to sleep with

(2) life comforts/LTR/Marriage from the man the woman wanted to be with

This is the essence of the AFBB dynamic. Biologically, women want one/multiple guys to have sex with and someone else to provide the commitment, relationship and life comforts. Because the man a woman wants to sleep with and the man a woman wants to be with are not the same, and this is what most men miss.

Why? Simple : because women are simply better than men in terms of lying and manipulating the lie to make it seem truth. Women are more attuned to displays of emotion than men are, and thus are able to prey on these emotions more subtly.

Women are dishonest with men about what they find attractive - and have been for so long that we now have indian generations filled with beta cucks and nerdy whiny guys who dont have any idea about masculinity or manhood, and are all about shite knigtism and their classic "women good men bad", welcome to India. These men genuinely believe that women will be (or should be) attracted to a "nice guy." Why? Because women want men to predominantly focus on the BetaBux side of the dynamic.

Women assume that if a guy is capable of giving them all the life comforts they want, then he is a great catch and she should naturally want to be with him. But in practice she only wants to be with him, not sleep with him . This is why so many women find themselves sexually uninterested in their billy beta husbands, developing a common misperception that women are generally less sexual than men. That misperception then filters into women's minds so that they believe it, which actually does affect their sexuality because then they feel free to reject sexuality, creating a negative feedback cycle.

So, women want to be in committed relationships with the "nice guy" (aka: beta) because these indian men don't know any better and women know these betas can't do any better, because if they could, they wouldn't be giving commitment just like that, and they would have left the woman at the first sign of disrespect or wrongdoing. Nice guys see how well this works at getting the "girlfriend," so they play that BB role, totally blind to the long-term ramifications of this strategy. In essence, they believe what women say about their sexuality, not realizing that women don't understand their own sexuality. Their biggest mistake : they take women's words as face value.

Women In a relationship simply try the best to maximize hypergamy in the given circumstances they are presented with.

Men mistakenly assume those women think and operate the same way as men. They assume those women are being motivated by empathy/love/whatever.

But for women, there is always a cost benefit analysis, it's always about what they can gain, either in the present, or as an insurance for the future.

So, just get rid of the idea that there's a woman out there that "knows her self worth" or "didn't just sleep around back in the day" or "just a better woman" or "she is not like others", because its simply bitch speak.

My father told me once : when life is going smoothly and without issues, dont do something stupid to fuck it up, even if you want to. Dont pay for things you dont own or rent, because they will end up owning you afterwards.

gettingbettersikh · 2020-01-05T08:59:07+00:00

I am from india but even here there are very small amount of good women (10 in a 100). I am a university student and i see most of the girls who are even remotely hot fucking around in there 20s. I know in our country that arrange marriage is a norm. But the future husbands of these women don't even know that they are getting railed in their 20s. I know a hell lot of women who even if they are not that hot but are still fucking around. They just want to keep it to themselves so they don't talk about it to anybody ( a secret life). I am 21 and I don't even what to do, for now i am just focusing on my hobbies. I see all of these simps not knowing the red pill and will get there life fucked by another girl. i see simps everywhere in inida. India is the most cucked country on the planet. Because we do not make women responsible for thier actions and pedestalise them all the time getting their egos to another level. I don't care what these girls want or desire but now i have developed a way to get rid of all these women with all the red flags on the planet. You know how much somebody loves you or wants to be with you - sacrifice. Our parents sacrifice for us, our true friends sacrifice for us, all the people that truely love us sacrifice for us. Only be the women who sacrifices for you the same amount or more than you do cause relationship is mutual. DON'T PEDESTALISE WOMEN PLS. All of these men in inida are blue pilled simps beta male mangina motherfuckas, literally by that i mean all. Don't be that guy. Work on yourself and only associate with people whether it be a man or a women who sacrifice for you on great amounts.make yourself better....

rameet47 · 2020-01-05T09:15:50+00:00

We are not yet that fucked up if you compare it with western world but we are slowly catching up. Situations in metro cities are deteriorating. Two of my uncles got divorce raped and ended up paying the women 35-40 lakhs just to get that signature on divorce paper.
It's not about finding the right women , why do you want to play a game in which you can lose all of your shit you have worked hard for ? Ek baari shaadi krli , bandi ke paas poori power hai to make your life hell. Aise arrangement mein jaana hi kyu ?

Ilikeoldergals · 2020-01-05T08:42:59+00:00

The challenge for indians and asians in general is how to be MGTOW in a tradcon culture. Do you balance your beliefs? Do you hide in plain sight?Do you reject culture and go your way? Are you prepared to cut off toxic family members and relatives? How do you handle their shit talk when you go your way ( because these kinda people talk when they have nothing to do) thats my two cents as a brown dude

breadoflife · 2020-01-05T08:49:12+00:00

Why are E. Indians so friggen cuked and emotionaly unstable. This is the real question.

modgill · 2020-01-05T09:55:54+00:00

I m a married Indian with kids, living in India

I'm a member of MGTOW, cuz I find a lot of bullshit in western society like Gendar neutrality bullcrap, gay and lesbian shit being promoted in western tv and mostly feminism bullshit being promoted through media.

Which is now creeping in India.

The problem isn't western society or eastern society. The problem is MEN, who seem to give too much of a fuck about women and then proceed to give them Power and destroy themselves in the process.

Even fucking Saudi Arabia allowed their women to drive. Lol.

If you want to destoy a society completly, change its laws and give women equal power. Which is exactly what Western countries are doing.

waddafaaq · 2020-01-05T10:11:37+00:00

Am generally disgusted by the hookup culture in Bangalore. If I want to start a family, it won't be with any of these city girls.

jadlkfjlakdsf · 2020-01-05T09:18:17+00:00

Naive you are, blue pills you have.

gtowerthrowaway · 2020-01-05T10:39:56+00:00

IMO

That about says it all. Screw divorce statistics, screw the fact that women initiate 70% of divorce, screw all the gynocentric laws in India. My opinion is that it's all good.

What are your plans for later stages in life?

That classic, "you'll die alone." Here's my plan - 40 more years of goddam peace and quiet, and then a few hours of dying alone.

TheCheapDetective · 2020-01-05T09:39:42+00:00

Same arguments can be made for China where men cannot find a suitable bride. Japanese men going full herbivore and so on.

India has a very high population and diverse culture of people. Yes, it is always possible to find a good women in any country (China, Japan, USA) and India also. Diabetes used to be a disease of western countries only but now, India has a significant population with these metabolic disorders. Similar to that, feminism was popular in US back then but now, India is following suit. Indian MGTOW is a response to the growing feminist cult in India.

Not all Indian men are software engineers earning several lakhs per year. Women are not only difficult to find, they also increasingly cheat on men and divorce is increasing very fast. If you combine low wages, high population, expectations of women and wealth gap, there is a perfect recipe for MGTOW.

Title	Question for Indian brothers here
Author	AdishWar
Upvotes	8
Comments	20
Date	January 5, 2020 8:35 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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