Some things I've noticed

Tipofthemorni · 2018-08-01T18:18:49+00:00

sorry but they are not all hypergamous

Give them more time to reveal themselves to you.

Docbear64 · 2018-08-01T18:42:24+00:00

How about instead of diving in head first (lol) you simple fucks, get to know her. Really listen to her talk. Hang around her.

Reading that and listening to your paragraph in general tells me two things. You've never tried " listening" to a woman you are in a relationship with because you'd quickly learn how frustrating and fruitless THAT particular journey is. Secondly you've written the vast majority of this post from the perspective of a casual observer which only further implies you don't know what you're talking about .

It's easy for someone whose never had a real relationship to believe in the goodness of women because they've never shackled themselves to a woman with good expectations and seen those fizzle out and die.

I am convinced any man who vouches for women like you are has very limited intimate or relationship experience with women . There's nothing wrong with that but that's exactly why you don't get our perspective because you've never been there.

2018-08-01T18:45:06+00:00

Where does one go to learn to be skeptical of women? Which mainstream media routinely point out red flags in women?

If no one complains about female misbehavior then why should anyone care about it? Society can't respond to issues men don't raise.

This post is "you should have known better" with way too many unnecessary words.

My civilization should not have issued a license to marry after a blood test as if incest was the only or even most likely possible downside.

Part of the reason for the popularity of places that do point out the many ways women misbehave, like r/MGTOW, is that no one anywhere else is talking about it. It's all about female empowerment and vagina worship. Despite the profound downsides for men that fail to recognize warning signs in women.

stephcurryftw · 2018-08-01T18:24:25+00:00

Every woman is hypergamous in nature but have varying amounts. And being hypergamous isn't just about trading up for money. It could be your looks, your social status, etc.

Slaide · 2018-08-01T19:02:03+00:00

Here are fatal flaws in your logic:

They're all hypergamous. The problem is that you link hypergamy to financial/material possessions. The term has evolved. When we refer to hypergamy, It's not just about money but also a perception that another man is simply better. Whether it is about looks, mannerism, money, women all have different levels at which hypergamy will affect them and for which they will destroy their relations for. Some women will indeed have little desire for material gains, but will ditch your ass if you gain weight... Or if they see another Chad or Tyrone who give them the tingles. When those whores go after those guys, it's not necessarily about money, but in their minds--they're trading up. That's what hypergamy actually is.
You seem to be one of those idiots who believe that when we say AWALT, we really mean AWALT. We know that it is technically impossible for all women on Earth to be complete whores or whatever we accuse them of. What we are saying is that a dangerous quantity of women are like that, to the point of simply not being worth the time of playing with fire or waste time trying t ocherry pick the non whores. For whatever pitiful amount of women you can make up in your somewhat convenient stories, we can think of at least 10 or 20 women who are hypergamous whores who'll cheat and leave you at the drop of a hat. So yeah... You're welcome to live in your world of playing Russian roulette with a fully loaded gun. Do forgive us if we don't partake.
Your delusion that it is a man who picked a woman is completely stupid and wrong. A man selects a woman, but it is a woman who gets the last say. If a woman does not want you, then the man's choice does not matter... at all (much like being a father). She will decide if the relationship happens or not, thus showing that your theory is moot. If you dare to force your desire, you will be accused of something or she'll go to great lenght to ruin you.

Another underwhelming pseudo-intellectual who thought he would teach us anything.

Pacifist11 · 2018-08-01T18:32:54+00:00

"All I'm seeing is the men being as bad as the women, just in different ways."

Correct. However in the majority of cases Society only shits on bad men not bad women. The phrase "If it had been a man...". has a hell of a lot of truth.

https://www.abc15.com/news/national/nataliia-karia-sentence-day-care-owner-gets-probation-for-hanging-child

feoen · 2018-08-01T18:39:33+00:00

The term is AWALT: All Women Are LIKE This

AWALT is not "All women ARE this".

It means that hypergamy exists on a spectrum. Some are going to be more so than others.

The reason this is useful is because men are raised under the "women is wonderful effect". (Google it) Ignorant men really think women are going to be perfect.

Yes I agree the men picked the bad women in many cases. MGTOW and TRP is all about BOTH GENDERS taking personal responsibility.

So when my ex of 11 years took me on vacation only to disappear and fuck another dude and I caught her, and she said it's my fault she cheated because I was unavailable, despite me having grown up with her, supported her, housed her, fed her, loved her, and then I just happened to spend the previous 6 years working towards my PhD, I knew that something was rotten.

rampitup55 · 2018-08-01T18:43:41+00:00

Last time I checked, the dating game was set up for women to be pursued and men to pursue, which explains the demand from women for expensive dates, the enormous inflation of their egos since the advent of social media etc.

So you're wrong. In the West, men don't choose women. Men make their intentions clear towards a woman, and the woman gets to choose. This is current year, not the neolithic era.

Furthermore: the vast majority of men aren't aggressively pursued by women. In fact, it's down to men to impress women in order to garner any sort of affection from them at all.

Emanresu_rouy_esoohc · 2018-08-01T18:26:28+00:00

Sounds like PUA / tradcon nonsense.

DangZagnut · 2018-08-01T18:59:39+00:00

everyone is hypergamous, women just pretend they aren't, that's why it's pointed out.

Sol_Install · 2018-08-01T18:49:29+00:00

Regarding hypergamy, all women have it. I understand where the confusion comes from because hypergamy is always presented as a woman ALWAYS trying to trade up. This is not the case. I have met women who are not aiming for the Perfect Alpha Male. Fact is that women are limited in their options. The women who are truly delusional are always tossing aside their options thinking they have an infinite amount of top tier men to chose from.

That is Unrestrained Hypergamy.

All women are hypergamous but what is different is the degree. That is what AWALT is. Generally speaking, you do need a job. The more she makes, the more you have to make sense generally, women don't date down. Just because you make 30 grand a year and she's with you, doesn't mean she's not hypergamous.

strongandhappy · 2018-08-01T18:35:44+00:00

3 is a good point, but I think it's too harsh. Like you said, maybe it doesn't matter cause you get burned and learn your lesson. In a perfect world there'd be unicorns for everyone, women wouldn't be deceptive and manipulative meaning you really can learn who they are before you commit too strongly, and every man would have the knowledge, self respect, and fortitude to turn down a less than perfect woman. But that's not the world. Lots of men are thirsty and completely deprived of female attention so they'll take whatever they can get, and fight for it, because being alone is difficult and painful. Add to that the social pressure to prove yourself by getting a woman, any woman, to prove your worth. It's called red pill for a reason, because it's a truth that isn't handed to you, you've been fed a lie your whole life and through all the pain and failure no one is telling you the truth, they just tell you to keep at it, "be yourself", try harder. The world is fucking upside down and I'm not going to be the one to blame every man who's trying to make something work with all the shitty broken tools he's been given.

Theo_Stormchaser · 2018-08-01T19:07:41+00:00

Our issue with female relationships is as much about state power being in female hands as it is about female nature in modern culture. Even if all women decided to be completely monogamous and not try to be hypergamist, Women still have a lot more power in the state then we do. My parents divorced on relatively good terms, and even then there was the temptation to go and get child support on my moms end.

When you say it’s all our fault, I’d like to remind you there is inappropriate in Western culture for women to approach men. Even if a woman likes a man, she would be labeled as a slut by her friends for approaching a man and expressing interest. I’m sorry, but that’s not the way our society works. We understand that we cannot change every aspect of the culture, and in fact the mid town community is generally against approaching women. r/MGTOW serves As the commons area for the men’s rights movement on Reddit. There’s a lot of people in this sub who are not fully MGTOW or not MGTOW at all. It means something different to all of us, but MGTOW typically means that we’re not interested in dating women.

I-am-the-lul · 2018-08-08T09:40:05+00:00

For many long term MGTOW, the issue of whether or not NAWALT exists is irrelevant as we are not looking for one, if there are any NAWALT around, there are plenty of suitable Blue-Pill Men who are more than happy to marry you, MGTOW isn't interested.

Title	Some things I've noticed
Author	rampitup55
Upvotes	0
Comments	45
Date	August 1, 2018 6:11 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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