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[–]ZergSuperHighway25 points26 points27 points 8 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
That moment when you find yours and you become infinitely more lonely when you realize 99.9999% of people in general have their heads so far up their asses they stop emotionally maturing after 16 years of age.
Most adults you talk to are spoiled-rotten children on the inside. With staggeringly basic emotional spectrums.
Watching them get into relationships is like watching two ships in the middle of the ocean plow into each other because neither wants to get out of the way. Then they sink to the bottom and take down all their passengers with them.
I've found myself and it becomes quite apparent most people have no concept of "self" other than "ME HUNGRY. ME ANGRY. ME HAPPY. ME DRUNK. ME WANT ATTENTION. ME SAD. WHO FAULT?! NOT MY FAULT!!!"
It's funny how generic morons love to tell you to find yourself and then more people will present themselves and you'll be happier.
Nah...the more aware I got of my self and went inward to find the roots of my suffering and what not, the more I became anti-social because the more I found that pretty much everyone you come across refuses to do the same and accept deep inner-faults.
Plus, the more you shine as an individual from loving yourself and meeting your expectations of self-defined success, the more you stick out to con-artists and psycho/sociopaths. That's when the succubai come out of the woodwork.
If you can find one person, be it male or female, who you can talk to and be perfectly honest with yourself and them, you've lucked out.
I have one friend who went from Chad PUA to redpill to MGTOW. I went from Blue pill to red pill to PUA back to blue pill and finally MGTOW. We never got along despite being decent friends until we met at the end of the tunnel.
I would go to war with this man. That's how much I trust him now, when before I would not even trust him enough to play call of duty with.
The more "advanced" our society becomes the easier it is for hordes of average people to keep themselves distracted through various means of easy no-risk dopamine response systems. People go through their entire lives on auto-pilot consuming and mentally masturbating until they die.
Being invisible isn't too hard anymore, because at least I'm not fucking batshit crazy like I thought I was.
[–]TheToadShroom 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Getting mentally intimate with another person really feels closer than sex.
Its like your peeling away the surfaces layers, like how a painter will study anatomy to better grasp his sitter, or like how an architect will devote himself to a geometrical blueprint. They contain the form or what some say as the soul of the object.
[–]max2k18 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Although what you are saying is true it reads like a /r/copypasta lol.
[–]OT-GOD-IS-DEMIURGE2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Am I the only one who sees 2 bald dudes possibly in drag, kissing in the OP?
[–]arcb7c69e20 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
LOL, you are not the only one. I like the text, but the chosen imagery could use some polishing to make it more appealing to a wider audience. Maybe just replacing the top image with something similar. Bottom image is fine.
[–]OT-GOD-IS-DEMIURGE1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe just replacing the top image with something similar.
yeah just the top part needs to be changed
[–]kazoodles 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I found that pretty much everyone you come across refuses to do the same and accept deep inner-faults.
Thanks. Have felt this for a while but never put it to words for fear of sounding arrogant.
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[–]SuspectedLumber2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
lol didn't you see that medical "proof" study where when a body dies, it immediately weighs like 2 grams less? that conclusively proves that when a body dies it farts out the soul and also the soul weighs 2 grams lmfao. Scientific study concluded.
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[–]OT-GOD-IS-DEMIURGE1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
Near death experiences tell us everything. Have self love and self acceptance and you are half way there
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[–]OT-GOD-IS-DEMIURGE0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
Spiritualist bullshit.
lol, I used to be like you until the NDE. I highly recommend some Ayahuasca with some Shamans, at the very least, it'll balance your negativity bias. At the most, you will transcend yourself
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[–]OT-GOD-IS-DEMIURGE0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
You were never like me.
I was. A strict materialist/Atheist who laughed at all the "spiritual" wu. But then my consciousness came out of the body, and changed everything.
You'll see when the meatsuit passes
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[–]OT-GOD-IS-DEMIURGE0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
You were never an atheist if your opinion is so easily swayed.
Lol, who says a work accident that stopped my heart, needed to be CPR'ed back, and spent 2 months in the hospital recovering, while watching the whole thing happen, out of the body, is "easily swayed"?
Also, please show me a factual source that says someone isn't really an atheist if they are "easily" swayed, as well as a source that shows going through my work accident is "easy."
Seems to be a lot of cognitive dissonance here
[–]antonio_rico1 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Ah right, your feelz > realz. Are you a woman? Because that's female "logic" in a nutshell right there, you blue pill. Your anecdotal evidence proves nothing in the grand scheme of things.
By requesting a factual source to define the requirements to be a card carrying member of the "Mile High Elite God-Haters Club," you are committing this fallacy. You know there isn't one and so do I.
But there doesn't need to be an atheist authority that rigidly defines such things. All it takes is a quick peek into a dictionary and a willingness to consider "what if this thing I do not want to be true is true."
The word atheist comes from the Greek root atheos, which is literally translated as "without deity." It isn't a state of mind (an opinion), it is a state of being.
Without souls, human beings are nothing more than machines. Amazing machines but machines nonetheless. It doesn't take a genius to see the sense in that. Could such a machine exist? Most definitely. We have built them ourselves.
Factor god out of the equation and a lot of things make perfect sense.
I would like to believe that when we die there is an afterlife where all the good things I've ever wanted are mine. But I have very strong doubts about that and still have yet to be presented with any evidence that isn't anecdotal and is the least bit convincing. Instead, I have awoken up to the fact that the good things are already here, right before my eyes, all around me. I just have to accept that they aren't perfect.
God is a man-made invention and belief is a con that is as old as the time when we had tails (note the coccyx). I challenge you to seriously consider a question, why do all the good things supposedly happen after we are dead?
[–]OT-GOD-IS-DEMIURGE1 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Ah right, your feelz > realz.
Is English your first language? Did you graduate High School? Who spells feelz/realx? lol
Are you a woman? Because that's female "logic" in a nutshell right there, you blue pill.
Funny because I thought you were wither a woman, a virgin, or 14
Your anecdotal evidence proves nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Of course not, who said it did?
EXACTLY, which is why your whole spiel was simply "opinion" and not fact. Basically assumptions. You think I believe in God because I am no longer an Atheist, which is wrong. I simply stopped being an Atheist after the NDE experience, and am just fine as an agnostic.
You also "Assumed" that I switched so "easily" but it actually took years after the experience and reading about 50 books later.
This is your thing, false assumptions and opinions. You have proven nothing at all in this whole exchange, lol
Sure it is. Here's the thing. If something exists, or not, it doesn't need your belief or unbelief to exist. Like the sky. You can be in a state of Being that there is no "sky", but the sky doesnt give a shit what you believe
Without souls, human beings are nothing more than machines. Amazing machines but machines nonetheless.
Perhaps, some humans really are just soulless machines and when they die, there is no more existence as bodiless consciousness. Its certainly a theory to entertain
It may me your definition of God that makes things not make sense to you then
I would like to believe that when we die there is an afterlife where all the good things I've ever wanted are mine.
From what I experienced as pure consciousness, we dont get whatever we want there. For example, you no longer have a body, so you dont really give a shit about food, water, sex, etc
But I have very strong doubts about that and still have yet to be presented with any evidence that isn't anecdotal and is the least bit convincing.
Here's the thing, you wake everyday, and your whole experience of life/existence is subjective/anecdotal. But because in your view, "But I have very strong doubts about that and still have yet to be presented with any evidence that isn't anecdotal and is the least bit convincing," Means that your direct experience of existence means nothing. In reality, "anecdotal" evidence is a limit, an aspect of the Scientific Method for a reason.
However, direct subjective experience itself, is not a scientific method, but it is the limit and modality by which we use to even be able to perform the scientific method.
Instead, I have woken up to the fact that the are good things are already here, right before my eyes, all around me. I just have to accept that they aren't perfect.
My NDE experience doesnt make me hate whats here. But I will say, I definitely prefer bodiless consciousness as an experience overall.
God is a man-made invention anf belief is a con that is as old as the time when we had tails (note the coccyx).
Ok, we'll see.
I challenge you to seriously consider a question, why do all the good things supposedly happen after we are dead?
Because you've limited/biased yourself to assume this. I have a day off, hanging out with my dog, and about to do some work on my truck with music in the background and some ice cold beers. That's all "good things" for me today.
Red pillz do, all the time. You must be new here.
I am all of those things and so much more, sweetheart. But I'm out of toilet paper. Do you mind?
You did:
But then my consciousness came out of the body, and changed everything.
You think I believe in God because I am no longer an Atheist, which is wrong. I simply stopped being an Atheist after the NDE experience, and am just fine as an agnostic.
Oh, you're one of those. Sorry pal, you didn't just "simply stop being an atheist." You either believe or you don't. You either know or you don't. Belief and knowledge are not the same thing and agnosticism is not a third option. Here:
So you're an agnostic theist, which is fine but really quite a stupid gamble. But by all means carry on. I'm sure I can figure out some way to profit from it, and I'm sure you'll make it quite easy for me.
This is your thing, false assumptions and opinions.
And your own false assumption is that I care what you think. I mean I could be having a really fantastic bowel movement right now but we're having this conversation.
Actually I've been thinking of the word "belief" as "believes in anything at all." It just so happened to revolve around god for whatever reason. Doesn't really matter because both are equally pointless, as you touched on just now, so at least that much we agree on:
If something exists, or not, it doesn't need your belief or unbelief to exist. Like the sky. You can be in a state of Being that there is no "sky", but the sky doesnt give a shit what you believe
Because yeah the sky couldn't give a fuck. But I'm not the sky and I don't give a fuck what the sky thinks. But my lack of belief does play an important part in my daily life. It's so important not to cloud my mind with silly beliefs about spirituality. I might start arguing with someone who's just trying to take a dump. Which might, you know, cause him to take a dump on my beliefs.
From what I experienced as pure consciousness
Yeah, you weren't. You would be, if my theory is sound (and it is), pure poop.
we dont get whatever we want there.
Ok swami, what does poop really want?
Here's the thing, you wake everyday, and your whole experience of life/existence is subjective/anecdotal.
Hmmm, no. I'm pretty objective. Another one of those false assumptions?
Means that your direct experience of existence means nothing.
Exactly. Life has no meaning, no purpose, no point, and I see no sense in making one up, as you have. And that's fine, you go right ahead. I'll just enjoy what life offers me instead of wasting time playing guessing games about death. Really, these conversations are such a waste of time, and it boggles the mind why people even care what happens after we die.
My NDE experience doesnt make me hate whats here.
Didn't say it did.
I definitely prefer bodiless consciousness as an experience overall.
Well then, why wait?
Yeah, don't mean to be a dick but do you see the problem with belief now?
I've had my own brushes with death. None of them changed me. Do you suppose that just maybe it had something to do with the bullshit Chopra sold you?
Because you've limited/biased yourself to assume this.
Oh I'm biased as fuck and make no apology for it.
LOL, this sounds like some 14 year old larp, hahahaha. Red Pills have been around since before the internet, and typed proper, using intelligence. Also this r/mgtow, not r/theredpill where everyone is a conceited piece of shit
Go figure, a redpill woman, the worse of the worse
This is the most ridiculous thing ever. Way to put shit in a box and sell it as worthy. You don't know shit. You think you know there's nothing after or that consciousness cannot leave the body, expand, or exist without a vessel. The only think you know, is that you don't know
Agnostic atheist = I do not know therefore I don't believe
Agnostic theist = I do not know but I believe
Gnostic atheist = I know but I don't believe
Gnostic theist = I know therefore I believe
Those are all dumb AF. Why don't you spend a few hours in r/zen so you can learn about positionlessness. You have ALOT to learn
So you're an agnostic theist, which is fine but really quite a stupid gamble.
I'm not, which means whatever else you say about it is null and void
I'm sure I can figure out some way to profit from it, and I'm sure you'll make it quite easy for me.
I used to be just like you, therefore, you cannot hustler a hustler, lol
And your own false assumption is that I care what you think.
Nope, not once did I assume that. You're shitty demeanor here is obvious. This game and your ego though, are on the line and those do matter to you
Because yeah the sky couldn't give a fuck.
Exactly, and with your limited intelligence, limited knowledge, limited spectrum of the senses, and the limited knowledge of science (think of what it will be in the year 3000 and how they will look at our current year as dumb AF), you couldn't possibly consider other life forms, alien germs, dimensions, other Universes with different sets of physics then ours, all topics openly discussed in science and philosophy, but you are God of knowledge, lol, so you know for sure with your Phd, Enlighten us Mr. Genius, LOL!
It's so important not to cloud my mind with silly beliefs about spirituality. I might start arguing with someone who's just trying to take a dump. Which might, you know, cause him to take a dump on my beliefs.
Everything you just said is "beliefs" and that point, takes a dump on all your replies. You even saying, "I dont believe" is a belief, same deal with "I know" is a belief.
Yes, because you know everything, and the books and studies you've written prove it, lol /s
Hmmm, no. I'm pretty objective.
You're no objective. You are entirely subjective and limited to it. You only think, believe in, or consider what objectivity may be, all within the limits of your direct experience, which id anecdotal and subjective
Another one of those false assumptions?
Lol, actually, feel free to do some research and prove that you are objective. I'm sure you will have a fun time with that and it will fuck you up big time when you find out the results of your studies.
Exactly. Life has no meaning
The Hypocrite just gave life meaning
no purpose, no point, and I see no sense in making one up
You just did make one up
I'll just enjoy what life offers me instead of wasting time playing guessing games about death.
Lol, you think I sit here and spend hours on guessing games, oh man, this just keeps getting better and better. Tell me what else I do all day
Really, these conversations are such a waste of time, and it boggles the mind why people even care what happens after we die.
Stop replying then, leave, and go back to TRP where you can be an A-Hole to the Newbs perhaps
Because its time will come. Why wait to end yourself it its all pointless and there is no point?
Yeah I do, you certainly believe a whole bunch of weird shit for someone who doesnt believe in God. You seem better, these discussions seem to trouble you, make you antsy, and make you superimpose a believed meaningless into everything.
I really am glad I no longer hodl the same kind of reference point that you currently do
I dont go to church of Chopra or whatever their selling. I simply have a theory that you're a soulless bot, that's all. You will have your existence here, mostly bitter and angry, try a bunch of stuff, and then disappear into nothingness after having a meaningless life that no one will remember or care for
I can tell. It shows the trouble with belief systems
lengthy buttsore rantings of a confused individual
Yeah, I'm doing it right.
Maybe stop being buttsore, and dont be confused then. Both of those work for me. In fact, were I'm at now, is the best I've ever been.
Also, highly recommend you at least try some DMT or Ayahuasca with a Shaman. Maybe you will find some soul and be able to enjoy things, like music, and life
Your words are meaningless because you transcend them.
Hey, you said it. That's your belief system, everytime you reply, you reveal what you believe
What I just stated isn't a belief. It's a fact. You might as well just make up your own language that only you can understand.
If it's fact, prove it. You wont though, so I won't hold my breath.
If something is true, that truth itself is not the same as your belief that it is so or your thoughts about it. Simple logic.
I don't need to make up language, you just fail to understand that you have and live by a belief system
Yes that's very astute and interesting. Not.
It's beyond your intelligence, obviously.
I'll simplify it. Would you rather be handed a $100 dollar bill? Or would you rather imagine/think of yourself being handed a $100?
Why did you make your choice?
Again with the insight and wit. Offering bribes in public will win friends and influence people. Not.
[–]Ludakrit 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well... That's just like your opinion man.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/728897/LIFE-AFTER-DEATH-consciousness-continue-SOUL
[–]antonio_rico0 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Good luck on your search!
[–]stringedbeams2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
m8
[–]SuspectedLumber2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
5t0p L00k1ng 4 ur 50u1-m8, 5ta4t l00k1ng 4 ur 50U1, M8.
[–]StarlightWrath0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I r8 g8, m8.
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8/8
[–]DeathToTheZog2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Have one of those wandering for hours moments. You just walk and think. I have worked through some horrific shit just wandering. Park your car and just walk. Breathe in the cold air and think. It's brought me back from the edge on more than one occasion.
[–]kirenex2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Word
[–]SuspectedLumber1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
What is it about rhyming that makes these stupid motivational things so cringy? It's like that one with "plant 5 rows of peas. (let there be peace in the world...) then plant 3 rows of lettuce (let us be tolerant and kind...)" holy fucking cringe!!
[–]jaycee92 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My favorite bumper sticker is "Imagine Whirled Peas."
[–]arcb7c69e21 point2 points3 points 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
What is it about rhyming that makes these stupid motivational things so cringy?
Polish it up with a $30,000,000 advertising budget, and everyone would want to be a MGTOW? LOL. I dunno, I kinda like it the way it is, but I'm not super sophisticated. You may be entirely correct, but I like it anyway. Makes me want to find that hill overlooking that mountain, and just chill, figuring things out (literally someday as my finances improve, figuratively any time).
[–]SuspectedLumber0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh, it's entirely my subjective opinion, and I see what you're saying - to come up with something catchy for the crowds.
[–]PenisTorvalds0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Literally an episode of big lez
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