This sucks. Is there no solution?

801735 · 2017-04-06T16:53:04+00:00

Is there no solution?

Do we have a chemist here? This guy needs a solution.

TurnDownForWhat · 2017-04-06T17:20:04+00:00

I'll go ahead and assume most comments will be sarcastic in nature, followed by comments of "Just go your own way bro" I however feel your pain. I came here from The Red Pill, which is essentially spinning tires and no traction. I too would like to find a place in my life, settle down, have a family, etc. I picture woman being part of this dream, specifically a wife. However like you've mentioned I can't reasonably get a wife in today's day and age. Threats of infidelity, divorce rape, rape accusations, hypergamy, etc all make me feel like I am better off on the sidelines. I'm not saying I want some push over for a wife either. I want a good strong woman. But the fact of the matter is like you said society has encouraged so much bullshit that now I'm more likely to get assfucked than live happily ever after with my equal. I can't advise the pump and dump route either. My college days were fuckbuddy central. It's unfulfilling longterm and more importantly just fucking dangerous. All it takes is for one of them to spite me or claim something or other and I'm fucked for life, proof not required. Or worse get pregnant, move away and I'll never raise the kid and be stuck with child support until my asshole bleeds. Sadly too say men have bent all they are going to bend without breaking. It's the woman who are going to have to fucking step it up if relationships are going to survive. Marriage is already down huge. It'll continue that way. Men are backing out. My best advice is to just wait. Do what makes you happy. Grow personally. If you saddle up now you likely won't make it to the destination. Its a shitty solution but until the masses of woman get off their fucking high horse and realize that men and woman are inherently different, each with built in strengths, etc then we're like to be in for a long fucking celibate winter my man.

Eyes_Of_The_Dragon · 2017-04-06T17:07:57+00:00

The only winning move is not to play.

801735 · 2017-04-06T17:42:36+00:00

There is none. Yes, when I found this sub back when it was in the 18,000's, I thought it was all bullshit and everyone here were failures with women.

But the more I read, and researched, the more I realized they were right. To be safe in this anti-man society, you must disengage and care for yourself. It's sad, and it sucks knowing a unicorn doesn't exist.

It's just not safe for men anymore. Wherever we go and whatever we do, we are always judged as disposable and worthless. Not to mention false accusations being thrown around.

It's bullshit. Find what makes you happy and do it. I spent last night watching the 1982 The Thing as it's the first horror movie I ever saw.

It's insignificant to many, but it's fun to me. Many guys here are content with no woman, as am I. It's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. I have plenty of money and lots time to spend on myself, or with my Dad.

Stay strong, brother.

StorkSlayer · 2017-04-06T22:08:15+00:00

Get a vasectomy, never get married, and protect yourself ... because no one else will.

account4189 · 2017-04-06T17:07:24+00:00

No - there is no such thing as a risk-free option. Not just with women, but with everything. You have to decide whether things are worth it on a case-by-case basis.

aanarchist · 2017-04-06T18:29:18+00:00

stay away from insane and entitled women, particularly the ones who are feminist leaning. at the end of the day the women you're describing, despite being socially encouraged, are unstable and depressed. other women see this and use it as an example of how not to live your life.

if you want a woman in your life look for traits like humility, introspection, intelligence, and a repulsion to the consumer culture. particularly look for women who had their biological father in their life. daughters of single mothers who never saw their father tend to be fucked unless they had some sort of miracle series of events in their lives.

ultimately you will need a red pill understanding of the masculine and feminine, so that you can protect yourself from exploitation by toxic women, and you should be the kind of man that a woman understands that she must respect you or she will not be in your life for long. respect yourself brother, and others shall respect you. also ffs think with your head and not with your dick. a 7 in looks who was raised well and is sane and contributes to your life has a better chance of going the distance than a 9 who is a headcase. ultimately the blue pill programming makes a man have a sort of fatal attraction to the most toxic women, where his brain shuts off and he serves as her slave. it's why there's so many horror stories on trp. like you should be able to rest easy in your relationship, but a lot of the time the dude is like completely oblivious to how much of a piece of shit she is, when it's usually in plain sight. like just knowing about her childhood and how it impacts a person will help you keep an eye out for these women and their tells. if a woman tends to dodge and avoid any sort of serious discussions, if she tries to redirect or whatever bullshit, you know she has a problem. at the end of the day. the women who destroy men are cowards ruled by fear and have a herd mentality. they were raised that way because the only other way to raise them can only be done by healthy human beings, and good parents are quite rare. look for a woman who has a sense of courage. not saying she has to be like a dude with bravado, but courage is probably one of the most important virtues in a human being. how much courage did it take for us to step outside the box and take the red pill? it's the same for a woman living in this sick society, takes a lot of courage to reject the brainwashing and go against the herd.

2017-04-06T17:06:19+00:00

Go ahead. Expose yourself to women and try it out. Get married, live with a woman, sleep around, do whatever you like. Just be aware of the consequences, and don't say that you haven't been warned. It's broken down like this. As a man you have value, if you don't believe that then you will never get anywhere. If you know you have value then women come into the picture. Understand this! You allow women to do one of two things to you in your life. Make it better or make it worse. There is no other option when dealing with them. Society is so toxic now that most wise men realize that there is no real way to make women work for you to enhance your life. So we go our own way and disengage from lifestyle choices that ultimately result in our consented slavey.

silive · 2017-04-06T17:45:45+00:00

Well, you have two alternatives:
1. Be slightly sad but financially secure and leading a peaceful life.
2. Getting on a roller-coaster full of drama with your wallet being ripped out through your asshole at the end.
P.S. If you desire sex with women, it's between escorts and sexual tourism to Latin America/East Asia. ALWAYS pay UPFRONT. And forget the wholesale prostitutes (aka "regular women") where the payout is on her way out. Too expensive, methinks.

a17c81a3 · 2017-04-06T19:25:49+00:00

Use surrogates and call girls.

gundahir · 2017-04-06T19:43:18+00:00

cohabitation is not an option. learned that from experience. when the relationship ends ( chances for that happening nowadays are close to 100% ) you are in trouble. probably have to move again ( costs money, takes time that i dont have etc. ). forget about it. make money, use it properly and you can have options nowadays that kings in the past could only dream about. life is good when you are red pilled.

IslandicFreedom · 2017-04-06T21:38:44+00:00

There is no excellent solution -> But at 40 I will tell you what I believe to be the most viable solution (at least for me).

This goes against the whole circle jerk thing - But I'll explain it so anyone with common sense won't totally hate on the idea.

Find a woman who's been married is now divorced, having a teenager or older kid can be beneficial. Not some newly divorced woman, someone who has gone through all her crap and is now in a day to day kind of comfortable rut. Someone who had her own place and is completely financially independent.

If she's a mother, then the shit with the ex has had time to simmer down a lot and the teenager spends a considerable amount of time with his/her father or friends, and will soon be starting Uni or within 2-3 years be moved out the house.

Now I say this because I've seen it with my own eyes how some women in this category aren't after every Chad, aren't total sluts, have a certain distance about them, like they feel a bit over the hill.

I said having that kid was an advantage because while being that single mother, if they were diligent meant that their attention was not on partying and fucking Chads. Rather realistically they've been working and raising their child.

Since that child is still in the house when you start the relationship - You moving in would be awkward - fucking great! You get to keep your own spot without pressure of moving in or becoming 1 financial entity.

You get to see her a few times a week, that's it. Oh sure you'll be expected to do shit like visit her family, do some odd jobs around her house, perhaps spend an evening with her and her kid once in a while eating pizza. NEVER even get too close to the kid. Only rarely see that kid.

But the rest of the time can and should feel like the romantic dating phase for as long as possible.

Now it goes without saying that should you end up in such a relationship you MUST still keep her further at bay. This means either having genuine interests that take up your time such as sport with friends a few times a week, or working shifts, or a second job. Or you have to fucking invent things.

Reason is if you just go to work and "play computer games" or "sit at home and watch netflix" - she'll see that time as HERS. She'll soon be nagging you for that time - at which point your blue pilled ass will be handing it over to her, she'll lose respect for you and it's game over.

So you make your time scarce. Scarce enough so she never feels like she has control over you. And it's in this realm of regular blow jobs or her actually respecting you as a man, when she feels happy that you're "making time for her". So she also feels like she needs to make some kind of effort.

Eventually after enough of this that kid will move out - perhaps you have now established that you actually want to live with her - who the fuck knows - or you don't. Keep putting it off till retirement. Maybe she also likes having her own space and some house security.

Goes without saying it's also fucking crucial that you get in with her family and they like you etc. No short cuts.

My ex brother in law lives as described above, and he had her eating out of his hands.

TimeTravel101 · 2017-04-09T00:16:48+00:00

Why does it suck to forgo women altogether? The world is such a huge place. Find a passion: nature, animals, sports, technology, travel, toys, etc. Also, escorts are a legit option for releasing your pressure once in a while.

Title	This sucks. Is there no solution?
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Date	April 6, 2017 4:50 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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