Thoughts on MGTOW being an elite plan to depopulate human society or just a symptom of third-wave feminism?

JFMX1996 · 2017-07-15T13:04:10+00:00

Look at me,

we are the elite now.

Lol

mentalidade_logica · 2017-07-15T12:21:04+00:00

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icydays34 · 2017-07-15T12:11:53+00:00

Normies must be really freaked out about MGTOW if they drum up crazy, far-fetching conspiracy theories to make sense of why men would want to take charge of their own lives and turn away from the Glorious Vagina. lol

bannerlord · 2017-07-15T11:53:23+00:00

Something from best of MGTOW

There were a few things in this world that philosophers believed could never be controlled or directed by capitalism. Love was one of them. And I'm sure the obscenely wealthy are pleased as punch that they have finally laid claim to one of the last, few things that had the courage to stand up to their riches. We believed, perhaps in vain hope, that the one aspect of human affairs that could withstand economic cycles would be the ability to show love and receive love; it was one of the few things that, we believed, separated us from mere commodities we oversaw and exchanged. And the thought was rather universally believed, from the richest corporate titans, to financial analysts, to your common laborers. That naïveté, that confidence in love, however, is shattering. Not only does the health of markets impact prosperity; the health of markets determines who can find those most human things, the things we always believed were immune to the exchange of things, the things that even the animals have been able to seek out and procure. Not only do bosses have the power to lay you off. They have the power to castrate you. The rich not only control access to your dreams. They have also laid claim to your genitals.

shimenki · 2017-07-15T13:17:26+00:00

I actually think it as reversed.

The fem was created to cause discord and hamper the awakening of ones awareness of what and who they really are by keeping humans all busy tending to families that literally feed them in several ways and of course pay their dept through labor. The Jesuits stated 500 years ago "Give me a child to the age of 6 and we own the man" due to their knowledge even back then about how brain waves pre the age of 6 is dedicated to theta, the highly hypnotizable state---beta occurs after 6.

Its also known in advanced metaphysics that ONLY advanced, very advanced and final focus souls will choose a male body to inhabit. and thus...MGTOW men allow themselves the perfect environment to awaken out of body identification and body addiction. Mainstream has pushed the disinfo about how females are more psychic. Of course, the 180 view is correct. Although souls that animate female bodies will feel the urge to evolve and show this evolution more often than men precisely due to needing to evolve from entry level states--the fact is, that when an advanced, very advanced and final focuses choose a human form, its always male due to the physical realities of the male which aligns with the ease of using high psychic powers.
Males are energy powerhouses and not every male of course has activated advanced psychic processes, but its there when its time. Just observe basic activities of reality and you'll see this as true. Women receive the energy rich sperm from the male and NEEDS it for anything to happen in her womb.
When a man uses orgasm which triggers a highly effective communication with the natural mind toward creation but uses it for other preferred manifestations other than baby making, much success is gained. Women will starve both physically and nonphysically without male attention which is why SO MUCH activity is dedicated to that end by women.

This awakening is exactly what those that pull the strings of the masses don't really want to see happen---none the less IT IS. Source /Godpoints within consciousness cannot be held back. Even the "weeds" (plants) will bust though asphalt with the slightest opportunity. This going our own way, away from the energy suppressing and stifling effects of feeding the fem is the crack in the pavement. We have taken that avenue and with each male that does, the pavement crumbles that much more, which serves to help others be drawn naturally to this awakening...aka the critical number

Talkytalktalk · 2017-07-15T13:33:25+00:00

Feminism is the conspiracy. Mgtow is the natural reaction. Voila,families destroyed.

SamCasey98 · 2017-07-15T12:12:49+00:00

Second choice

mentalidade_logica · 2017-07-15T15:25:02+00:00

The feminism movement was / is indeed an elite plan.

It is impossible to plan /control a non-existing movement such as MGTOW.

MGTOW is a natural reaction to feminism, so no, MGTOW is not an elitists plan.

_Hachiman_Hikigaya_ · 2017-07-15T15:00:16+00:00

MGTOW is not a conspiracy. It is just men trying to or creating something new again from the starch for ourself. society became too stupid to correct. Instead of correcting it we are creating new society for ourselves. we made a mistake last time while creating the society. Now we are correcting it. Instead of creating the society for every one again we are now just creating the individual society for each and every men.

flatliner_ · 2017-07-15T15:31:34+00:00

new feminism and MGTOW do tie into the NWO depopulation agenda. But also the west is at negative population growth, and suddenly we are letting huge amounts of largely unvetted migrants in, from cultures who have huge families and birthrates- so based on this, population goes up, just demographics change, right? But many are military fighting age men, the majority don't find jobs, and almost none assimilate or conform with with the society they are migrating to, so unrest grows and adds to any existing unrest in the countries, bringing things closer to civil war or major conflict. An EMP attack, market crash (which looks likely), major disease breakout (say ebola or something similar which would be blamed on unvetted migrants), so many things are making the world look like a powder keg ready to blow- this makes me think that even if I found a unicorn, logically- is it evil to bring children into a world that is getting so bad and looks so much worse coming?

DigitalScetis · 2017-07-15T15:40:42+00:00

If MGTOW is an elite plan, I'd like to see some of that elite money and financial backing.

Instead, our best minds hover around 10,000 followers or so on YouTube, which shows me that we were never part of some "elite plan," but are rather just men who have--quite spontaneously and reasonably--formed this idea of MGTOW against the current.

Hernes777 · 2017-07-15T16:36:06+00:00

They planned it a long time ago, HG Wells who was close to the Royal Family wrote about it in his books. Aldous Huxely wrote about over 50 years ago. These plans are over 100 years old. And the depopulation thing is a work in progress now, it isn't something for the future, it is something going on right now.

eja_cool8 · 2017-07-15T14:41:23+00:00

I believe feminism applies to your theory, but I don't think anyone predicted MGTOW would happen.

Zigis2 · 2017-07-15T20:08:17+00:00

I was just wondering what people thought about whether the elites have planned this a long time ago to dismantle male/female relationships in the western world to decrease the birth rate.

This type of reasoning is a logical fallacy. It is called cui prodest, who does it benefit?

The only question you should ask yourself is: does it benefit me? You shouldn't care what others think... you are the one who decides.

Reprogramming_Life · 2017-07-15T20:39:17+00:00

The latter but it fits right in with the goals of the former.

Sal-the-Gunzerker · 2017-07-15T23:35:52+00:00

Wether MGTOW is an organic response or a planned creation doesn't really matter. The end result is the same. The social engineers knew exactly what would happen if societal constraints were removed from women's behavior.

Teflon0819 · 2017-07-15T13:46:25+00:00

Whether it was deliberate or not, it is definitely proving to be an effective depopulation tool.

I doubt it was deliberate. If it was though you have to admire the foresight whoever orchestrated it had to enact such a circuitous plan.

Or maybe they just used the Adam and Eve story as a blueprint rather than a warning.

Solstus22 · 2017-07-15T13:52:59+00:00

I'd say its more of the latter than the initial. I say that because MGTOW itself is not a movement and it has no clear agenda other than 'go your own way'. It doesn't promote its beliefs the same way as an MRA does; we generally keep quiet and take action through inaction. There are other plans that depopulate human society, albeit not very popular (i.e. contraceptives, vasectomies, castration, not-fucking, or even a third world war).

MGTOW is as you say, a reaction to men's issues with gynocentric society.

Dickwraith93 · 2017-07-15T14:02:21+00:00

MGTOW is namomachines.

But on a serious note, MGTOW isn't recent; nor it's a conspiracy. MGTOW is just we men unshackling ourselves and for people who can't live life as "normal" nor like the other options.

HumanBeingOfEarth · 2017-07-15T14:33:12+00:00

Think of a systematic society like ours as trapping nature in a bottle. If done incorrectly it will die.

TimVertex · 2017-07-15T16:29:11+00:00

If there is a group of powerful people- who want to depopulated the earth. They'll probably value mgtow a lot.

2017-07-15T16:46:59+00:00

It's like a chess game where we enter the board (life) in a given configuration (feminism, leftism) and the best move we can play as individuals is MGTOW.

MGTOW is not a conspiracy in itself, rather, it is the best response to a conspiracy.

Of course, in the end the result is the same, but that's not my problem. Western civilisation has degraded so much it is no longer worth saving.

ColdStoryBro · 2017-07-15T18:16:15+00:00

The cumulative sum of our actions may break apart human kind. But that is definitely not our focus. I think many here are subconsciously black pilled; such that they would rather society collapse than be a cog in its broken machine. Many see it as inevitable part of a natural cycle. There is nothing you can do about this society. It so inherently flawed that it is beyond saving. MRA still in denial about this.

Everyone will hate the MGTOW man because they get nothing from them. You cannot sell us anything, we do not tie our group identity to materials. We do not gather in any establishments that can ban us. We do not have an authoritative structure that can be breached and abused. We don't care what others even think about us. And we are growing without much 'marketing effort'. It's an unbeatable ideology.

Up_to_here_with_BS02 · 2017-07-15T19:11:32+00:00

The second.

NomadicAnomaly · 2017-07-15T20:53:00+00:00

The planet needs to be depopulated. It's not a bad thing in the face of the calamity on the horizon. I don't think MGTOW is part of some depopulation conspiracy. I do think a lot of fascistic right-wing propaganda is trying to push itself through RedPill/MGTOW (less so MGTOW), though. What's funny is... I think a lot of this social breakdown, decay, and conflict is the result of overpopulation, itself. So, you can, actually, blame overpopulation for everything sucking more ass every year that goes by. Nobody has actual control over the beast... some people have some control, but it's a runaway train.

SirKermitTheThird · 2017-07-15T21:28:08+00:00

Right now, MGTOW is self defense for Men.

Fussbus · 2017-07-16T01:59:34+00:00

Is it a conspiracy? Who knows. Is it a rational and logical reaction to the problems men face? No. It is a rational and logical reaction to women. Yep. Is this the end of the civilization? Nobody knows. It could always happen and there's no reason to think that it might collapse in our lifetime.

Ultimately I think these sorts of questions are of little value. Look for the truth. Question your assumptions. Survey all your options. Select the ones that you believe will generate the most happiness for you. That's it.

mizwe11 · 2017-07-16T08:28:45+00:00

We are natures way of thinning out the herd.

MGTOWManofMystery · 2017-07-15T18:38:31+00:00

There is no master plan to dismantle Western civilization.

Most population growth will occur in non-Western parts of the world. Dismantling Western culture would probably increase population growth as the newly savage Westerners would revert to more breeding.

Thoughts on MGTOW being an elite plan to depopulate human society or just a symptom of third-wave feminism?

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Title	Thoughts on MGTOW being an elite plan to depopulate human society or just a symptom of third-wave feminism?
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Date	July 15, 2017 11:46 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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