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Title	True
Author	agiml
Upvotes	987
Comments	42
Date	February 23, 2020 5:24 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/f8ci6r/true/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/true.369427 https://theredarchive.com/post/369427

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He is right. Mgtow is not about protecting the rights of married men and tradcons. Its apolitical. Remember what got us into this in the first place? Simps marrying and giving everything to women. All fighting for a bone.

So all in all. You may have your political opinions on what is best for society, regarding marriage and family politics and laws. But when it comes to the individual man, mgtow is very clear. Men are happier without women, and thrive single. Men in family are doing a sacrifice, regardless if they realize it or not.

Now you might say that you want to make that sacrifice, because you want to feel that you have virtue, or that you contribute to society. But that is secondary.

The reality is, that family as we know it, or as we use to know, was made by religion. So that men stay attached to society and women, instead of following their true nature, that is to live alone and die alone for the most.

There is nothing more masculine than dying alone. Or should i say, wanting to die alone. Because we all die alone anyways.

In other words, simps are afraid to be alone, and they marry because they are afraid to die alone. When they will die alone anyways.

Sure you can be a mgtow, and deep inside you just wanted a family.

Just like a vegan that virtue signals. But then all he wants is meat. And they are angry, and they blame it on everything except, the lack of meat in their diet. And at some point, some more often than not, they eat meat.

And this is a bad analogy.

Because meat is good for you. And marriage and cohabitation will just ruin your health, even with the unicorn. Dont believe me even after all our warnings? Go ahead try it.

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Absolutely brother. There is only one conclusion. Is that we are mgtow, but we cant apply your standard to others. Meaning mgtow is just realizing the fact that men are happier alone, when compared to being with 1 female in a commited relationship.

Mgtow is not a temporary strike where you go monk until you find a nawalt. It is not to punish women, although it has that effect. It is not a coping mechanism because no woman wants to be with you.

Mgtow is not celibacy. Mgtow is not puritanism.

One can be a mgtow and bang 10 women in a day and still be a mgtow.

I would say that man is definitely a mgtow as opposed to the man who wants to find 1 woman to make a family.

The incels, tradcucks and mras is something we cant do anything about it. Except from abstaining from consuming mgtow content because of them, so you dont get brainwashed with their bullshit.

The mgtow message is very simple.

Is just realizing men were made to be alone, and thrive alone. Whereas married men in comparison always lose in the long run, in every area of their lives, regardless if it is a unicorn and regardless if the laws are on your side.

Basically mgtow is realizing men are the prize. Men are superior to women, and were made to be free.

Women themselves are only attracted to free, unattached men. Not alphas, because alphas can be dominated, and are easy to control.

Biology says it all. Women are attracted to the man who does not commit. Men were made to never commit.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I downvoted (probably) her.

The picture is making fun of feminists, that their war was never against the rich white man in the picture as they say (or are stupid enough to believe), but rather against the nuclear family and the old marriage institution. At the same time it also makes fun of them as being an embarrassment while thinking they are some wonderful superhero.

And the downvotes on that comment are because she appears to be purposefully trying to derive that type of a conclusion (that this picture and thus mgtow is promoting men to get married and have a family in this climate) and poke fun at mgtows to feel superior. Perfectly valid reasons.

But if they looked at her history they would realize she actually is stupid enough to believe that (and it is a genuine opinion). And she has no reason being here either. Those reasons are why I downvoted.

[–]TheLastMgtow0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

that their war was never against the rich white man in the picture as they say (or are stupid enough to believe), but rather against the nuclear family and the old marriage institution

This is long gone. Like almost a century. There are no more feminists making war against the nuclear family. Feminists since the 90's are just a reaction to the fact feminism 2.0 sparked mgtow and hook up culture, and actually completely erased the reasons for the family that was already a mess in the 90's. And that made a lot of men stop commiting.

Feminism nows is just angry women unable to cope with the fact men are not being husbands and boyfriends anymore, so they want the state to impose laws and taxes. Feminism now is basically women angry that they cant work like men or achieve like men, and they cant compete on equal or even unequal terms.

The only thing i see about the family, is tradcucks wanting men to marry under these laws, on this environment and culture. And that is the real problem. Any man marrying now is doing no favour to the nuclear family or the old marriage instituition, or himself. On the contrary.

Remember, most tradcucks are whiteknight simps, as bad or worse than the leftists. They would ally the leftists if it meant taking free men back to the plantation. They actually do it, by being the other side of the same gynocentric coin.

Remember what got us here? Tradcucks never care about men. And the situation gets so shitty, men then are willing to try anything else just for the possibility of a change, or the possibility of conflict. It is very obvious for me, why the left and feminism got where they got. Because traditionalism pushed men to the left, the same way the far left now pushed liberals to Trump. Tradcucks are the first to turn feminist when things get ugly or they dont get their way.

Tradcucks want you to bury your head in the sand, and blame feminists for everything. While their average woman benefits from feminism fully condones all its versions, and claims to be anti-feminist. No different than the tradcucks themselves, who will become the biggest pussies when it comes to criticize women, or talk about female nature.