We have a fucking problem and we need to discuss what to do. As we all know, Laws are heavily us Men and the risk in marriage is way too high for whatever minuscule rewards it gives. Some might even argue we always lose. I agree to some extent. It is a stupid game because only one side gets to decide rules. By Definition, that's a rigged game so we choose not to play it.

What I wanted to discuss was, if there is anything else we can do about it. Things might fix themselves however we may be able to put some effort and make the process faster.

What would you do if you were to change the rules of game? Under what conditions would you want to have a relationship with a Woman again?

If laws were to change then what would be the details? How would you want to even the playing field?

Other than the laws, what can we do to have a relationship and not get fucked. Say we don't marry but simply stay together the same way we would with friends. Both paying for whatever is needed. If the child is born, we don't sign the papers claiming to be father. Bear in mind that this is just an example.

You guys are way older and experienced in this.Many of you are way also smarter than I am. So I seek advice and discussion. MGTOW exists as a reaction to something (we know the details). What if what were reacting to could cease to exist?

Now I can definitely understand not wanting anything to do with Women simply because you understand their dirty nature BUT there are those who would want to get married under certain conditions or if some conditions were changed. If you had the power to decide the terms and conditions of this business deal, what would you do?