What Do You Do When Traditional Conservative Shames You Into Marriage?

Teflon0819 · 2017-02-21T20:58:25+00:00

“Listen, smile, agree, and then do whatever the fuck you were gonna do anyway.” - Robert Downey Jr.

not88 · 2017-02-21T20:47:30+00:00

Laugh and call them a deluded faggot.

Eyes_Of_The_Dragon · 2017-02-21T20:49:23+00:00

how marriage is the best way to have sex

She'll have lots of sex, but you won't.

how marriage makes you happier

It makes her happier that you're her slave.

how good men need to breed

You'll be raising and paying for kids, but they might not be yours.

Sol_Install · 2017-02-21T21:46:42+00:00

Look, seriously you simply have to stop talking to them and stop them from talking to you. You cannot argue with them at all. It won't work. I mean it. Cut them off the very second they bring it up. The very SECOND. If that means you get in your car and drive off after just being there for 2 minutes, DO IT.

They are never going to stop no matter what you say. Show them through action. No more discussing things. Distance yourself. I know the feeling of rage. They won't listen so you must be just as ruthless. Cut them off.

Hunterogz · 2017-02-21T20:45:53+00:00

Tell them you'll consider marriage when alimony goes away, and sacrificing yourself for nothing doesn't appeal to you.

Ultramegasaurus · 2017-02-21T21:09:17+00:00

If they are still halfway sane, tell them about how awful and godless women have become. If they're economic conservatives too, tell them marriage is an insanely bad deal with all risks and obligations on you alone.

VoxVirilis · 2017-02-21T21:26:51+00:00

How do you deal with these tradcon arguments?

Lightning round, from the top:

how marriage is the best way to have sex

Most married men complain about not having enough sex.

how marriage makes you happier

CFN = Citation Fucking Needed

how civilisation needs marriage

If "civilization" expects me to give a shit about it, it should have given a shit about me at some point.

how good men need to breed and save civilization

"Goodness" is not a genetic trait. Plenty of "good" men have kids that turn into hellions and plenty of "bad" men have kids that end up being saints. 2. Again with the "civilization" nonsense, wtf?

we must sacrifice ourselves to keep civilization going

If we have to "sacrifice ourselves" for God, then we have a shit God.

If we have to "sacrifice ourselves" for "civilization", then we have a shit civilization.

This subjugation of the one by the many is collectivist horseshit. I don't owe a damn thing to a "civilization" that blames all of its problems on me because I was born with a cock. Fuck "civilization".

poloppoyop · 2017-02-21T21:59:49+00:00

How do you deal with these tradcon arguments?

I don't. Just don't give a fuck and ghost the conversation. Stop speaking, turn 180° and exit the room.

Arzu1982 · 2017-02-21T20:48:22+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbt9yK2DFrg

2017-02-21T20:46:10+00:00

I would probably just tell them to fuck off.

However, I only have a few tradcon relatives and they're not the preachy type.

DigitalScetis · 2017-02-21T22:27:54+00:00

I call their women bitches, and their daughters whores.

When they get angry, I tell them they aren't man enough to see the truth.

MGTOW_Monger · 2017-02-21T22:35:07+00:00

My sons just agree with them, and sometimes ramp it up a notch or two...

Like he'll agree and say, yeah, i better start planning to die alone, wonder if there are products for that these days, and laughs...

That is how they handle other men of their same age.

Older men, people, usually are very frustrated as they usually have a daughter or two (who is gorgeous /s) and for some reason, can't find a man...

Best to stay far away from them and not have any conversation at all.

I'm their Dad, and my wife and I are approached at least once a week on what is going on with our sons. We do not let the conversations even begin, and if they do, we shame them by stating the truth...our sons are seeing multiple women, depending on the activity they're doing at the time...

They are not wanting one girl nor have any desire to settle down...

...then comes our shaming, how we are committing a sin, blah blah blah...

Thing is their daughters were raised to be princesses and now no one wants them...

...So don't make some else's problem your problem.

Let them marry their own daughters if they're so perfect...so perfect no man wants them, surreal

MyLittlePonyofDoom · 2017-02-22T06:26:32+00:00

Say you're a capitalist and at the heart of any transaction is rational self interest. If they try to say blah for the good of society tell them to shove that commie shit where it hurts and fuck off to North Korea.

veetkoosh · 2017-02-21T22:39:49+00:00

They're carelessly insulting you and your very personal choices. Tell them if they don't stop, you'll have to honestly insult their choices.

My version: I'm trying to minimize, if not eliminate, the dread in my life. If I were married to you/your wife, sooner or later I'd dread going home at night, and that's a miserable way to live.

Pacifist11 · 2017-02-22T02:04:02+00:00

Well, last time I told them that I was a bachelor for environmental reasons. The largest environmental footprint you can create is having a child and the only way to 100% prevent the possibility is not to hook up/marry.

Then if you're really pissed invite them over to watch a movie and put on Divorce Corp.

Yakatonker · 2017-02-22T02:44:46+00:00

You can't make degenerate retards intelligent, especially if they've thrown all their economic worth into the trap that is marriage. Its just as metaphorical as the Matrix, cliche as it is these slaves will fight bitterly to defend their pathetic existence, the perception of some skewed sense of social economic fiefdom.

If you truly want peace from these idiots then you may pay a steep price. Remove these people from your life, friends, family, siblings, parents. All of these people are my enemies, all of them want me to become slave to a system that doesn't respect my economic hardship or sacrifice. None of those people respect me but my economic power, it is the brutal realization of the corrupt and sinful human race. A race of beings who only respect value, and where the creation of value lies on the shoulders of men, each an Atlas carrying the weight of many worlds to appease a corrupt and disgusting social order.

The price is great isolation. You understand these people are not your allies but your enemies at least subconsciously. Its time to take the next step and truly free yourself. Freedom is economy, the power to do as you will without the subjugation of your value by force, or by parasitic entropy. In this world where corruption is the norm amongst humans, the only harbour for those seekng shelter is the one, the individual creates.

Zombocom1911 · 2017-02-22T03:09:29+00:00

eliminate these people from your existence , ghost and block them them, be a hermit

Ximkai · 2017-02-22T04:30:00+00:00

Stats will show that married men are less happy than singles. Any married man will tell you that sex dies out after the honeymoon phase. Your friends are right though, society does need men to throw themselves in the fire, it does need men to sacrifice themselves to marriage to keep going. Problem is, many of us don't want to do it.

I like my life the way it is, there's nothing wrong with being a single man. If I'm happy with myself, hang all who try to tell me I'm not. It's not my problem that society is collapsing, I didn't cause the issue, I'm not going to be the one to fix it.

Let your friends rake themselves over the coals, let's see how much sex and happiness they have after over half of them get taken to court for cash and prizes.

Jodasons87 · 2017-02-21T22:37:58+00:00

Oh forgot, sometimes we'll say "if you want to help your daughter, ask your politicians to change the law, otherwise leave us alone"

DThrillard · 2017-02-22T00:09:25+00:00

"Piss off, faggot"

Mickey_One · 2017-02-22T02:16:45+00:00

When someone tries to shame you, tell them, "I don't care what you think. Goodbye."

badhairguy · 2017-02-22T03:45:23+00:00

Tell them to fuck off and mind their own business

Spungo1 · 2017-02-22T03:56:31+00:00

Tell them that they aren't fooling anyone. They might be married to women, but everyone knows they love the cock.

feedmecarrots · 2017-02-22T04:20:36+00:00

If they had any idea how bad the sexual marketplace is for men, they wouldn't try to twist your arm.

Herpnderp145 · 2017-02-22T04:32:37+00:00

Need to save money for a road trip.

Actanonverba11 · 2017-02-22T04:49:07+00:00

"Guess I haven't found the right one, yet." And leave it at that

s0ma_ · 2017-02-24T04:24:54+00:00

you can shame a ghost?

Title	What Do You Do When Traditional Conservative Shames You Into Marriage?
Author	mofono
Upvotes	18
Comments	35
Date	February 21, 2017 8:31 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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