What specific traumatic experience (if any) brought you to GYOW?

BloodlessTurnip · 2019-03-11T20:38:31+00:00

Was 16: Met 17 year old strawberry blond girl who was spectacular, but, sadly, an idiot. We tried to have sex (both virgins), was exciting but didn't get it in the hole. She thought she was pregnant. Drama.

Was 18: Met tall 19 year old at religious university. Was in IN LUV. Went home for Christmas break. Came back to school and she announced she had met a guy over break: he had proposed, she accepted. Got depressed, stopped dating, stopped school, joined army. Grew up some.

Was 27: Figured I should date and try to get married. Joined a dating service and dated several broken girls. Finally met a 24 year old that (seemed) to have her shit together. Loved her. Married her when I was 30. It was hard, but what marriage isn't? She was sick and various flavors of crazy after I married her - all hidden until I said: I do.

Was 38: Caught her cheating on me. Didn't want to lose access to my kids and leave them with crazy woman... so tried to keep things on level keel, maybe forgive. Fear of financial slavery to ex kept me in line; no power over my life.

Was 43: 1st marriage counseling session wife she confessed that her Dad fucked her (a lot). More marriage counseling: Oh! Brother fucked her (a lot) also. More marriage counseling. Wife now obese monster.

Was 47: Was bitching to my mother about cheating slut wife. Mother confesses that she cheated on my Dad, but he doesn't know. AWALT CONFIRMED!

Was 53: Separated. Left the home I purchased before marriage (mistake - now her home.) Couch surfing and lived on cot for next 4 years.

Was 57: Mom died. Found out that Mom (and Dad) left 40% of my inheritance to cheating ex-wife (approximately $2,000,000.) Double-betrayal by white knight Dad with my own mother's assistance.

Was 58: Finalized divorce agreement. $900K plus 5 years free rent on my ex-house (another $120K) to ex. $800K to me. No alimony. I was planning to expat or eat a bullet rather than pay that demon lifetime alimony. Fortunately, I don't have do either of those.

Now, PTSD when I think of relationships/cheating/sex/marriage. Pecker not really all that enthused about relationships with women-devils and government standing over my shoulder with whip.

GO YOU OWN WAY! TRAUMA AWAITS IF YOU JUST FOLLOW TRADITIONAL PATTERN WITH NO FAULT DIVORCE.

TheUltimateThug · 2019-03-11T20:05:19+00:00

Selfishness. Every women I’ve ever dated treated me like shit after awhile. Scars from my childhood from when I asked out my crush and got embarrassed, not getting love as a kid, bitterness from findings out everything I’d been taught was a complete and utter lie. Frustration from the lack of accountability in today’s society. Being treated as if my sexual urges were disgusting and that I needed to push them down to the deepest part of my soul and never let them out, but the woman’s sexual desires we’re praised, while mine were shunned. It made me feel like I was sick in the head because I couldn’t help but look at the girls in my class. I was punished for this. Years later I see that everything I did was normal for a growing boy to do. and there was nothing wrong with me at all. My first sexual experience was terrible. Long story short it consisted of a lot of complaining, frustration and disappointment, from a women who claimed “she loved me”. The power of bitterness is strong, it can push you through even your worst days.

guitarguy1749 · 2019-03-11T22:17:01+00:00

every woman I ever cared about or developed feelings for treated me like a disposable person. final straw was when I ended up dating a single mother who was a total trainwreck, I got out before she totally screwed me over but that was what finally red-pilled me.

Panda-eats · 2019-03-11T22:26:07+00:00

Recent one. I was in a very long term relationship. Engaged to be married.

I earn very well, work hard, supported her doing nothing for years. Was a complete beta. She spent literal millions of my money (well, maybe just a million) while growing increasingly cold and demanding.

Then she dumps me for someone else. Purely for physical reasons. I’d be completely outraged and furious if she hadn’t also set me free to realise how much better things would be if I focused on myself and not pleasing someone who gave me nothing in return.

BadWardrobe · 2019-03-11T23:17:47+00:00

Like most men I’ve got some failed relationships under my belt, but it was actually the breaking up of a 12 year friendship with a woman that hurt me the most and led me to Red Pill / Mgtow. Yes, I was THAT fucking nice guy clown who thought it was possible to have a close friendship with a girl.

Long story as short as possible, I first met her through work and we clicked instantly, enjoyed each other's company, hung out loads etc. I wanted to fuck her, of course I did, but because I treated her with respect - you guessed it - she only saw me as a friend. Fine. I got over it. I told myself the friendship was of good value to me and kept it going as I was too much of a coward to walk away. We helped each out a lot down the years (though looking back now I sense she had an ulterior motive for a lot of it). Fast forward 12 years, I hadn’t seen her for a several of those years as she’d moved to another country, but we kept in regular contact with whats app video calls and texts etc.

Around this time she was having a lot of personal problems and I was the classic shoulder to cry on / emotional tampon; you’ll have forgive me, I had no idea I was doing anything wrong at the time, I was just trying to be a good man like I was raised to be. Anyway, this self-centred floozy was clearly feeling lonely and encouraged me to visit her in her faraway land (5000 mile round trip and at great expense to me) and like a damned fool I went along with it, thinking we’d have a laugh like old times. She coaxed me over with promises of all the great places we’d visit: restaurants, waterparks, speedboat rides, historical spots, old ruins etc. Sounded like it would be a good trip. Holy shitting Christ was I wrong.

When I arrived I knew something was off straight away. The conversations were difficult. The atmosphere was awkward. She was glued to her phone most of the time. She lived in a backwater shit-hole with nothing to do, so it was difficult to entertain myself in her absence / lack of effort. The nearest bar was a 3 mile walk through sweltering heat and taxis were scarce so getting drunk was difficult. We did about 5% of the activities she promised we’d do. As the week went on she started to acknowledge me less and less. I began to spend more time alone in my room. One day she fucked off out to go shopping for 4 hours and left me with her mum. The next day she was just lying on her sofa all day like a lazy fucking sloth. Other days she was bossy and sharp with me if I wore shoes in her apartment (seriously).

On the final day she started pushing me away in public like she didn’t want to be seen with me. Needless to say I flew off the handle at her and told her exactly what I thought about her behaviour. I’d travelled half way across the world to visit her sorry ass and she couldn't even be bothered to make me feel welcome. I’m guessing this came across as needy / whiny to her, but I didn’t give a shit, she needed telling off. We weren’t a couple, we were friends – and where I come from you don’t treat your friends like that.

The conversation didn’t go down well. Her hamster rationalised that everything she did was fine and dandy and that I was overreacting. We didn’t speak again on the holiday and I returned home. Of course, me still being blue-pill back then I started to feel bad over the following weeks at how angry I’d gotten with her. I didn't like the silence between us. So, like a phaggot I decided to try to repair the friendship and apologised for my part in the argument. I left the door open for her to apologise for any shitty behaviour on her part… haha, how naive I was. We haven’t spoken since, and I’m still waiting for her apology. I sense I’ll go on waiting. 12 years of having her back and listening to her stupid problems just evaporated into thin air for no discernible reason. I suppose I should thank her, because if she'd treated me like I wanted her to treat me I'd still be a non-the-wiser blue-pill idiot.

TLDR – Worst fucking holiday of all time. Women are all the same. Whether you’re fucking them or “friends” with them, if the switch flips and they decide that you are no longer of use to them, you’re gone. They can rationalise any bad deed and it doesn’t matter what good deeds you’ve done for them in the past. What I find despicable about them is the more you help them out, go out of your way, treat them respect etc, the less they respect you as a man and the more likely they are to shit all over you. Childish creatures.

mnight75 · 2019-03-12T02:22:01+00:00

My mom divorce raping my father when I was 13. I turn 43 in a week. I was MGTOW before there was an internet to give MGTOW a name.

CoinSwapTrader · 2019-03-11T19:57:42+00:00

that a man must make a choice to either serve a woman, many womenz and the system or to serve God or a higher purpose. It is either you serve women or God and I chose one over the other!

Dinomiteblast · 2019-03-11T22:52:15+00:00

Best female friend finds a new boyfriend. 4 years of friendship down the drain.

BertTheWelder · 2019-03-11T19:58:29+00:00

So many things. One of the biggest for me is the tendency for women to fight about X when they’re really mad about Y, but aren’t comfortable discussing Y. Or similarly when they think that because I did X, it means I feel Y and won’t take my word for how I feel.

DangZagnut · 2019-03-11T22:16:47+00:00

Nothing traumatic, it's just the the "classic" protocols are very stupid.

sinscale · 2019-03-12T07:21:02+00:00

I've never had much success with women, however 2 standout experiences made me go from blue pill to TRP to MGTOW:

Be 19, 5 year LTR. Girl was a chameleon who I later realised never worked for anything in her life and used manipulation to get by. Highlights include buying her the latest iPhone under the pretense that her credit rating was too low to be given a contract, so she would pay me instead. Didn't receive a penny. Also took her on two holidays abroad COMPLETELY paid for by me, she was ungrateful. Started reading TRP, lifting, holding frame etc. This was a waste of time. If you follow TRP you might as well call yourself a male feminist. The final nails in the coffin were multiple occasions I knew she was stealing from my wallet. She had the audacity to try and convince me it was me being forgetful with my money.

Be 24, 2nd LTR. Very attractive girl, had similar interests. I thought NAWALT. She absolutely refused to play her part in the relationship, not just sex, but ANY kind of intimacy beyond a peck. She played victim all the time and not once admitted she was wrong (which was often). It somehow was always my fault. So I got sick of the bs and moved on.

Yes I was a simp, but I believe it was the making of me to truly understand what is going on and realise AWALT. Almost everyone I know is in a LTR or married, and these are probably the primary causes of stress in men today.

801735 · 2019-03-11T19:49:22+00:00

None.

osmith74 · 2019-03-12T00:35:38+00:00

This will be a long read but it’s crazy.

Here’s my story that I’m still suffering from to this day. I’m 19 years old and was dating this girl from my freshman year in highschool until midway through my first year of college. The first 2-3 years were AMAZING I was head over heels in love with this girl and so was she.

Towards the end she became extremely distant and would constantly have a attitude towards me. Every time I confronted her on it to see what was going on and what we could do to fix it she would clam up and march off or start SCREAMING. I would make plans for us to go do something one night and she would bail on me and go out with friends or family. Which wasn’t that big of a deal but it kept happening and if I would say something about it she would call me controlling and abusive.

Controlling and abusive, those were the two words she kept throwing around CONSTANTLY. I am a extremely calm and collected guy I’m the farthest thing from that. One night I was building a stand for my 200 gallon aquarium I was putting together. I had a board slip and cut my leg open really bad. She looked at me and just kept laughing. I was dam near in tears from the pain and told her it wasn’t funny and I was seriously hurt. She looked at me and just kept laughing at me. I drove myself to the hospital and got 3 stitches. I could tell you a million stories on how cancerous she became. She was allergic to all fruits and vegetables and refused to go to the gym. She was getting chubby.

This is where it gets insane. One night I was headed to work. I worked 60 hour weeks at the time while school was out. My mom calls me and says “hey your dog is really sick I don’t think he’s going to make it we’re at the vet” so I was extremely upset. I told my ex at the time what was going on. And she ignored me, like she had been for the past few days. Then she replied with “that sucks but it’s not my problem please stop texting me” so I replied back with “you know what I’m over this” and I shut my phone off. I ended up going home early from work.

I pull onto my street and see a few cop cars infront of my house. I also have a few pull up real fast around my car. Spotlights on me and guns drawn, they called me out of the car and took me to the ground and detained me. I was TERRIFIED, scared I was going to die. Come to find out she told everyone I was going to kill myself and that I had a gun in my car and would use it on any cops that came by me.

I was sent to a hospital to have a crisis worker evaluate my mental health. She told me I was fine and I was going to go home. She also told my mother this. Then the cops come back and talk to her and all of a sudden I’m being taken to a mental hospital. (Here’s what I can’t prove) my exs dad is the chief of police. I think he influenced the decision for me to go be sent there. But I can’t prove it.

So I’m sent to this mental hospital. They take the cuffs off me and disappear. They take my shoes and my hoodie strings and asked me if I wanted to make a will. They tried to force drugs down my throat. I refused to take ANY. I was there 72 hours under a police hold. I saw the doctor the next morning and he said I was fine and I was going home the next day. So I was there about 36 hours.

I go home, mentally fucked up. That place was so scary and really messed me up for a few days. I would wake up in cold sweats thinking about it. I get out and made a phone call to my ex’s mom. I was pissed. she told me to never contact any of them again or they would call the police again. So I let them be. To this day my ex posts on social media about how horrible of a person I am. How toxic and abusive I was. But I was told if I made any posts I will get a restraining order put on me. But she’s aloud to do anything she wants.

So mind you I’m in school to become a cop. This really fucked my record up and I’m fighting to get it taken away. BUT this has been an amazing experience for me.

Her family still stalks my social media all the time I see them looking at my stuff by who views it. They’re insane. For the first few weeks in not 2 months I was incredibly depressed and upset wondering what the fuck I did wrong. I went to the gym almost every day for 3 months and I’m in amazing physical shape. I have made new friends that are closer to me than my own brothers. I discovered meditation. One morning while meditating I felt all of my anger and pain just float away. I felt something spiritual and found god, after being a long time atheist.

It’s been a long rough journey and I’m stronger than I ever have been. I’m haven’t completely taken the red pill tho. I still enjoy going out on dates with girls even just as friends. I think 99% of women are the scum of the earth but there are still the few that are genuinely good people.

But that’s my traumatic experience it really changed who I was as a person.

PM_ME_HI_VIS_CLOTHIN · 2019-03-12T00:37:34+00:00

I've learned that women only support equality when they get a benefit out of it. Then I dug deeper and learned that our whole society is based on that scheme. We always talk about women rights and never even give a shit about men. I learned that a man can only lose in that game and decided that I don't want to participate. A bit later, I discovered MGTOW and it improved my life significantly. I see things clearer now. You guys are awesome, stay right how you are!

ChiTownBob · 2019-03-12T01:39:38+00:00

Freshman year in college: I met this one girl, fresh from India. Demure. Feminine. Traditional. I would have dated her but she was a 4 at best and I was just starting out in college, focusing on my studies.

Junior year in College: Same girl. Big mouth. Feminist. Dating white guy who is a simp, and she treats him like garbage. I mean "Bridezillas" have nothing on this chick.

Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.

dirtymo2928 · 2019-03-12T06:38:30+00:00

Walked in on my mother riding dick when I was 16, figured I should tell her I was going to the store as her door was slightly open...... And me and mt brother down the hallway. She also confessed to her and my grandma cheating on my dad and grandpa in their younger days....... We were at a resteraunt when I was 11 and I saw a picture of Marilyn Monroe on the wall and said " gross didnt she cheat? what a hoebag" and my mother replies " well that would mean me and your grandma are hoebags too"

AWALT

I remember when I was 9 and my mother started dating a guy, she brought him over and was making out on the couch with him, I remember spying just watching in shock... Like who the fuck is this guy???? I was 9 so it was lot to take in at the time. It was literal foreplay in front of me, she was too dumb to notice I was watching and this guy would watch me while making out with my mom getting ready to you know what. Probably turned him on in a sick way. He would smack my moms ass in front of me. Make me very angry thinking back.

AWALT

Dated girl for 10 months, she cheats on me with some guy at a christmas party.... She dissapears for days... i try texting..calling...m nothing... then I get a message from some guy saying "step back watch a real man do it hahaha cheers buddy". I was a weak young man and insecure and blamed myself and took her back, I fucking hate myself for doing so.... such a simp.........that lasted like 2 weeks because I couldnt stomach to look at her.....

Another girl breaks up with me and starts dating my old buddy shortly after and gets pregnant with his kid.

I could go on with the experiences but im tired and smoked out........

Been MGTOW for 2 years now and sometimes wish it wasnt like this but its for the best, understand ive been spited too many times. All this was before I was even 20years old, and just said fuck dating and relationships.... these girls are trash and time has ran out ( im 23 now not settling for a used up girl with a body count of 10+ or a girl with kids) Ive become a better man thanks to MGTOW.

Title	What specific traumatic experience (if any) brought you to GYOW?
Author	CreativeThought88
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Date	March 11, 2019 7:47 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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