After recently going through a divorce, I began to re-evaluate things, and that led me to explore various outlooks on Male/Female relations. I’ve taken the time to get opinions from a variety of sources from both blue and red pill standpoints. I’ve spoken with Feminists, with MGTOW, with Red Pillers, with MRAs, with your average men and women etc….
I was just browsing the front page of Reddit a few minutes ago and came across yet another whine post from TwoXChromosomes, and then it just hit me. It just really hit me and settled deep inside:
I’m done. I’m 100% done. I make the following statements about women by and large, while noting that there are certainly exceptions:
I can’t stand the attitudes of women anymore. Seemingly all I hear from them is outrage and victimhood. There is no empathy for men whatsoever, but rather a demonization of them. There seems to be some kind of mass hysterics in effect with women now. My mother, older, was talking to me about it yesterday. She was telling me how back in the 60’s there were legitimate women’s issues, but now, she says, things have just gotten insane.
I simply don’t know how to navigate this culture anymore. I look at the pros and cons of being in a relationship with a woman and the cons far outweigh the pros. I’ve spent about 9 out of the past 10 years in relationships. I’m done.
The incredible selfishness and self centeredness of western women astounds me. In my life I’ve been cheated on multiple times. I was told that it was my fault because I (fill in the blank). I’ve also been approached to cheat by various women with boyfriends, fiancées and husbands. I have not taken them up on their offers. I have a couple of friends that have similar experiences. One of them is a very good looking guy and the stories he’s told me will make your skin crawl. He’s a good guy and wont sleep with a woman if he knows she’s attached. By my goodness the frequency at which women seem to cheat, or to seek to cheat, is simply astonishing. It's awful.
I’m sorry but in my experience women cheat far, far, far more than men.
I can only come to the conclusion that women, by and large, hold the opinion of “what he doesn’t know can’t hurt ME”.
I make the same argument that many women do when it comes to men. They say sure, not all men are rapists. But if I gave you a bag of M&Ms and told you one of them was poisoned, would you eat them?
One thing I know for sure: The vast majority of the boyfriends/fiancee's/husbands of the women that have approached me to cheat? They don't have a clue, or even a suspicion, nor would the thought even enter their mind that their wife would cheat. If you told them, they'd be pissed. Not because they found out that their wives were cheaters, but because someone dare accuse their wives of such a thing. And gentlemen, that fact, more than anything else, scares the hell out of me, because it happens all. The. Time. And the guys DON'T. HAVE. A. CLUE.
I'm done. Totally done. The cheating, the cultural wide complaints, the outrage, the hostility, the self centeredness – all of it. I wanted a wife, I wanted a family, I wanted to settle down. But the price is simply too high today, and the risk too great, and I’m done.
Edit: Formatting
[–]ArthurVonL30 points31 points32 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]misterbadattitude 29 points30 points31 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
I woke up to the selfishness of women when my first "love" sent me invitation to her wedding to another man she was seeing behind my back, and told me that I was her number two choice – supposedly something that I should be proud of. Her words struck me like lightning (with a little bit of exaggeration). It was then I realized that I was just a piece of meat on the counter to be probed and inspected while she shopped for the choice cut. She had no concern of the damage she did to me while she “shopped”. I said myself, “…How could you allow this to happen?” I still remember that moment clearly, as if it happened a minute ago.
Like a MGTOW poster said, “Suffering cures you; or it kills you.” Luckily, it didn’t kill me; it cured me. It made me stronger.
[–]TimeTravel1015 points6 points7 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]ThePenitentMan388 points [recovered] | Copy Link
[–]Hiromant20 points21 points22 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]oldredder4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
I didn't go through a divorce but saw it all around me - my dad twice, my brother - and misery among the married men. An exception here and there, at least from the outside, but not much.
Honestly, given the behavior of women in all settings, like work or anywhere else, I really try to avoid interacting with them. A simple casual conversation turns into lies and manipulations to gain control of the conversation and inflict shame.
It's too bad too - early on, I really wanted the Norman Rockwell fairy tale. I'm definitely happier in a relationship but today I feel like they are not worth the risk.
I suppose that I'm still open to an LTR, but not marriage under any circumstances. You have to position yourself so that you are prepared to just stand up and walk out, of a job, a relationship, or whatever. It's still a risk, of the lies, etc., that could land you in jail for the rest of your life, though. Good grief.
[–]MuscleCarz10 points11 points12 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]hollybegin1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]gundahir11 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]coryandtrevorforever 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]MuscleCarz6 points7 points8 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]oldredder0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]methylotroph5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]feedmecarrots3 points4 points5 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–]MuscleCarz3 points4 points5 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]feedmecarrots3 points4 points5 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]WAFC3 points4 points5 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]feedmecarrots1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]oldredder0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]ChristianRedpill4 points [recovered] | Copy Link
[–]Zombocom19112 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]oldredder2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] (1 child) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–]MuscleCarz1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]KamiMoon1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]TheLocalGamer 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]capmblade0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]oldredder0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]hertus0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Banned_For_Opinion0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Campoloco1 point [recovered] | Copy Link
[–]NomadicAnomaly-1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link