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White Knight got shot!

SFV_818

November 13, 2019
9 upvotes
/r/MGTOW

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Title White Knight got shot!
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SFV_818

Upvotes 9
Comments 17
Date November 13, 2019 8:26 PM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/dvxpj6/white_knight_got_shot/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/white-knight-got-shot.647482
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[–]rabbit8lol15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

This is not white knighting IMO.

The guy was trying to diffuse a dangerous situation. He didn't jump into the middle of them arguing or save some random hoe with his fists who wasn't asking for help. He tried to talk to the guy.

A woman running into a restaurant with child in hand claiming the boyfriend is violent and is looking for help is not automatically a liar. I believe the woman in this case as the story stands now , the boyfriends reaction to this was to shoot into a restaurant three times.

IMO a white knight is defending a woman's honor for no other reason than she is a woman no matter what she did. You're making the assumption he tried to help her because she was a woman. You are discounting the other people, himself, and being a moral person.

[–]hugaddiction6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree as much as the next man on here that white knighting is deplorable, but the guy that brought the gun back to the restaurant and shot this guy is on another level of evil human garbage.

[–]79johnsmith4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

>"My father, hearing what was going on, kind of stepped in front of the guy and said, ‘Let's get out of here, man. Don't be here for this.' They had a small fight outside and the gentleman ran off.”

If that were the case, he wouldn't have fought with the man - based on the comment by his own son - the word "they had a small fight" was used and not "had a small discussion" or "conversed".

It is one thing to talk peaceably because you want to clam the situation down, however, this is different. He was a physical violence proxy of the woman.

He used physical force, on behalf of a woman, without any other information, purely on the basis of what she-said when she ran into the place.

Thus by your very own definition, this appears to be him, defending the woman's 'honor' for no other reason than she is a woman - aka. White Knighting - seems like a very clear cut case.

[–]rabbit8lol0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, he saw a mother and child and stepped in to stop a man she did not want to be with at that time.

Small fight? Verbal or physical? Many people refer to a heated argument as a fight.

You're jumping to conclusions IMO without many facts. What do we know....

A women with her child in arms ran into a public restaurant. She told someone that he was abusive. The father tried to get him out of the restaurant. We don't even know why he was chasing her, he may have been justified, may not have. Men do commit more violent crimes than women. The father tried to get the guy to leave the store. Why did they get in a small fight, because the boyfriend was acting irrational in public. You don't chase people into restaurants.

You claim white knighting. Because he helped a women? Maybe because he had not bee able to spend much time with his son he wanted to help the child? You have no idea of his motivations here. Maybe he wanted to help the boyfriend by stopping him from attacking his girl and child in public?

Was his son there? The son was giving info in the story as if he were. Maybe he wanted to set an example, for which he paid dearly.

So when you see something you disagree with you will make no effort to right the wrong you feel? This is perfectly acceptable GYOW. Me, I want a better future for my son, so I try to set an example, even if the consequences are grave.

I some chick punches a man and he retaliates, this I wouldn't step in. I would explain to mhy son to hit unless you expect to get hit.

This woman was seeking refuge. She was not calling in some real or fake domestic abuse charge on him. Which when I read the story made me think there was some righteous anger the boyfriend was displaying. What was the boyfriends plan, run into the restaurant, grab them and drag them home? That's illegal.

You can't just do whatever you want, I don't care if you're GYOW. The boyfriend should have talked to the dad and found out she was calling him abusive. No he let his rage at being denied what he wanted lead him to murder a man who was trying to help not only the boyfriend but the woman and her child.

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Maybe, and I'll concede the point because I too do not know his actual motives, he was white knighting. But given this situation, I see the boyfriend as an idiot who decided he was in charge of her and she would comply. When things did not go his way, he decided to take the life of a man who did nothing wrong. The boyfriend was likely raised by a single mother. Maybe he can learn to control his emotions in prison and act less like an emotional bitch.

[–]79johnsmith2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The father tried to get the guy to leave the store..

Sigh, and this is where it all goes south - what relationship did he have with the woman? None. What about with the boyfriend? Also none.

What did he do? Exchange words, maybe even got physical and ran the other guy off. Was that his job? No. Was he qualified to and equipped to arrest and subdue someone? No. Crazy person or not, irrational or not, having some twangs of feelings here and there or not, it definitely wasn't his circus and those were not his monkeys.

Sadly, there's a very big spectrum between ignoring something, involving oneself passively and becoming actively involved. He chose to become ACTIVELY involved when he stepped in between them and got into an argument or even a physical fight with the boyfriend.

He wants to help? Call the police, then speak calmly to both of them. You never, ever escalate or get into a fight because its NOT YOUR PROBLEM. All he had to do was back-off once the boyfriend started escalating, be a witness from afar or get a recording with his phone and the police will come and arrest the guy and throw him in jail because that's the standard operating procedure in this gynocentric world we live in.

Let's be reasonable, if he truly wanted to help both of them, things would not have escalated, to fighting, either a shouting argument or physical violence, whatever it was we don't know, but it escalated and to the point where the boyfriend was run off, which indicates things escalated and badly. Again, it wasn't his problem, and he made it his problem due to a woman that he doesn't even know. That's the definition of white-knighting in my book - becoming actively involved for the sake of a woman he doesn't know and for what? Nothing, or possibly a pat on the head and a few nice words like 'Good boy!'. Instead, he will pay for it, possibly with his life.

..so I try to set an example, even if the consequences are grave.

Ask yourself, will your son benefit more from your one example or from having you gone, permanently out of his life, possibly able to give him hundreds more examples were you still alive to give them? If anything happens to you, what will happen to your son? Will he be given back to his mother, so she can indoctrinate him and raise him with her way of thinking? Won't he lose a vital role model, a confidant and counsellor, someone who has his best interests at heart? Will he be a better person due to that or worse off?

Really, concedes don't matter, points don't matter in an online forum where everyone doesn't give a flying F about external validation; basically anything other than 'our own way' because we've realised that going our own way means literally that.

I will part with this: Men have been brainwashed by our gynocentric society and by women in general, to believe their lives are worth next to nothing, to be truly self-less, because it is from men's very sacrifice of time, labour, money, putting themselves at risk and in harm's way, even giving up their lives, which ultimately benefits women and this gynocentric society. You only have one life and it is precious, unlike what we men have been brainwashed to believe. Why precious? It can only be taken, it cannot be given back. No government or woman has the power to give you back your life. If they want you to sacrifice yours, it is because they do not want to sacrifice theirs.

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[+][deleted] 6 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

If what you said was true, then he would've called the police instead of butting in to save the lady.

And yes, he tried to help her because she was a woman. Otherwise, he would've called the police and have it resolved. That's why he got shot in the head.

And always remember that she chose the violent as the boyfriend and she chose to have the violent boyfriend's children. She could've reached to a police station but instead she chose a restaurant filled with civilians with children.

How dumb can you be to aid some stranger to save your ass? Now she has to deal with the fact that she got someone else dead because of his violent boyfriend.

If that isn't white knighting, I don't know what it is.

And here's the morality for a moral person: don't get involved in couples' problems in any circunstance or you can get your ass kicked or killed.

[–]Bri-701 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is the definition of the White Knight. I guess that isn't clear to some of the posters here.

I don't need to hear any side of the story to know that is what he was doing. I suppose he's the definition of a "real man" in the sense he will give his life up for a woman and child he doesn't know. Depending on the facts he might just be a "fool".

You will never hear the truth of this story, there won't be any followups. You got the moral of the story correct.

[–]Double_Cake0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Right. Some of these MGTOWs are just inhumane. It’s a terrible shame the man died and I’m against white knighting but sometimes instinct kicks in as a HUMAN trying to diffuse a dangerous situation.

[–]gi0rno_gi0vanna 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some of these MGTOWs

Your nose is showing

[–]rabbit8lol1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would have said some real off kilter shit during the rage mode, to be fair.

[–]ParalyticPoison11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's what you get for trying to "save" a random hoe, hope that false validation was worth the lead in your head.

[–]79johnsmith2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

>"My father, hearing what was going on, kind of stepped in front of the guy and said, ‘Let's get out of here, man. Don't be here for this.' They had a small fight outside and the gentleman ran off.” But investigators said the man came back shortly after -- this time with a gun.

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So.. He maneuvered himself to come right in front of the guy, they exchanged words, he, suggested they take the fight outside, and then they fought outside.

Seems like a clear case of white-knighting?

[–]79johnsmith2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also, the news article is loaded with blue-pilled propaganda for men to sacrifice themselves for women:

1) "A man's family is hailing him as a hero for stepping in to protect a mother and her baby" -> propaganda encouraging men to step in for women to be hailed a 'Hero';

2) “First and foremost, I’m proud of him,” Garibay’s son, Benjamin Lozano told KTXL -> if you step in for women (even if it gets you with a bullet in your head), your family will be proud of you;

3) “That’s kind of the most important thing to us that he’s not out there hurting anybody else or causing any other family the pain that we’re going through,” Megan Lozano, Garibay’s daughter-in-law [Really??! Your father in-law got shot because he poked his nose into affairs that were unrelated to him and is now in hospital, but the MOST IMPORTANT thing you can think of is the safety of other families!] -> this belittles the man's injuries and suffering, and encourages men to self-sacrifice for other families (meaning women)

4) Garibay’s family has started a GoFundMe page to help with medical expenses -> encouraging other people (usually men) to bear responsibility pick up the bill.

Notice how society constantly programs men to be ready to sacrifice themselves, and that the arguments for this sacrifice are all emotional - 'Be a Hero', 'Make your family Proud', 'Sacrifice yourself for the safety of others'.

This is subtler, but no different from the white-feather movement, where men were emotionally shamed into their deaths.

MGTOW have to encourage cultivating selfishness not selflessness. Always remember:

A man's life is precious; people who say otherwise can go jump off a cliff since they value their lives so cheaply.

A man's time is his own and up to him to spend in any way he chooses.

A man's money is his own - men already pay the vast majority of taxes that goes to support society and government; any more is and not owed, either to support groups, to charities, to donations, and especially to women!

A man has a right to pursue his own fulfilment and happiness; that is Personal to the man and does NOT come from external validation (women and/or society).

[–]tripmepls1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Him attempting to stop an abusive boyfriend in a public setting doesn’t make him a white knight.

[–]Bri-700 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You are assuming he was a abusive.

[–]tripmepls0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The woman was fearful for her life and the boyfriend comes back with a gun and shoots the said guy in the head. How the fuck is that assuming he was abusive?

[–]LiveTheTruth3211 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't get involved especially when the other party leaves and then returns with a gun. This is what "being a man" will get you in today's clown world.

Im not saying what this fella here did wasn't honorable especially since there was a child involved but when shit like happens, just call the cops.

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