why do so many here advocate this

mrscene1 · 2017-10-08T03:48:26+00:00

Addiction to nicotine isn't natural. Addiction to heroine isn't natural. If you are addicted, abstinence from either will cure you of your addiction. It's meaningless to compare organic sex drive with drugs. You are never going to rid yourself of a sex drive. If you are going to eschew relationships with women, you have to find an alternative. Ergo, hookers and porn. If you're naive enough to believe that if you swear off women long enough, you're sexual attraction to them will dissipate, you're in for some disappointment.

MatthewsIsGod · 2017-10-08T05:16:02+00:00

Hookers and porn are just a way for men to achieve sexual satisfaction without getting involved with women. Some guys use them, some don't. Some pump-and-dump, some go monk.

MethaCat · 2017-10-08T07:16:01+00:00

I think not everyone can control their sexual drive. If you can to the degree that you don't need porn or prostitutes that's great. MGTOW as you know stands for men going their own way, and if you can't relate to what other men do to satisfy their sexual drive I think it would be cool for you to respect it. The way is different for different men.

silive · 2017-10-08T03:58:58+00:00

It's not that we recommend it, it's just another option if you're so disposed. Anything is better than the "pump & dump" with the "regular" women who are the the most expensive prostitutes available, IMHO.

GlitchyBlasphemer · 2017-10-08T03:49:05+00:00

The reason I went MGTOW isn’t because I think women are evil, or even bad. I decided to go my own way because the system is rigged against me and it’s a game I don’t get enjoyment out of. There is nothing wrong with sex or sexuality. Fulfill that need how ever you please. The interaction with a hooker is at least an honest one, sex for cash, and I won’t disparage anyone from doing it. It sounds like you’re very angry. Maybe calm down and think about why it is you chose this way of life. Then please stop trying to shame us for making our own decisions.

goodbeertimes · 2017-10-08T04:35:17+00:00

Here's my take - many, if not all of us, wish to be free from ~~women~~ men , and probably resent our lust for ~~them~~ their money. Then we turn around and say porn and prostitutes are fine though

Fixed that for you.

You are talking as if prostitute is doing a favor. She could have worked as a cashier in retail for pennies or flipped burgers. But no she has to strip in titty bars, or prostitute themselves. Because patriarchy is holding to her head? You talking as if they are doing a social work. It's for money asshole - your's and mine.

scooter_1975 · 2017-10-08T06:43:37+00:00

Prostitutes can get you in trouble with the law or trouble with a pimp. Maybe it's more honest, but not risk free.

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fuu999 · 2017-10-08T08:16:41+00:00

have you ever been dating and having sex with women ?

then you have used prostitutes

Wraith29 · 2017-10-08T11:28:01+00:00

Either way it's men going their own way. I can't see much a debate in this because attraction to women is hard wired into our brain. As long as testosterone is flowing in us we are going to have a sex drive. Obviously it sucks and I'll say monk mode is a way but I guess I'm not mentally strong enough to go that route. I respect your views but I can't see myself giving it up.

sakibombs25 · 2017-10-08T12:50:25+00:00

It is indeed possible to quell addiction to sex/ejaculation, but not if you’ve tried and failed before and believe its impossible.

You’re knocking on doors many so called MGTOWs don’t want answered. They want to endlessly bitch about women and constantly justify why they’re not pursuing any, all while beating off looking at women daily and thinking about fucking women all the time. Would it not be better to rid yourself of that cognitive dissonance and focus on the root cause of your suffering, your own sexual desires? Sexual transmutation is a thing, and to say it’s impossible or undesirable is ignorant.

How exactly do you plan to free yourself from women but continue being a sex addict with the female form as your stimulus?

No stimulus, no desire,

No desire, no problem

Most men are stuck in a pleasure trap and think they cannot control their sexual impulses, but it is very possible. But you have to admit you’re an addict and your desire to be free from women and your sexual desires have to trump your desire for short term pleasure hits.

DeusExMaximum · 2017-10-08T20:28:05+00:00

If mgtow started a culture of using sluts instead of marrying, all that would do is take women's metaphorical pistols and exchange them for automatic rifles. Honestly, why can't anyone see this? You'd be helping women a ton if they didn't have to marry but just fuck for money during the entirety of their youth.

In fact, that enables a perfect financial structure for money to go directly from a man's pocket to a woman's, without what hassle (as little as there is) that there is today.

Futureman999 · 2017-10-08T08:17:58+00:00

Not all MGTOWs are monk mode. It's a perfectly valid option for a MGTOW though. Personally I have female friends, have had non-cohabitating LTRs, have hired sex workers and would again, and pr0n is a great reduced harm method for consuming pussy.

Offscouring · 2017-10-08T11:26:23+00:00

I more than half suspect you are trolling but I'll answer anyway. Let's say I'm fat and I realize I need to start making better choices if I don't want to die of a heart attack before I can retire.

I can continue to eat out or I can start cooking for myself and satisfy my hunger with things that are safer for my body.

As I see it this is porn. But lets say every once in a while a guy is dying for a huge steak dinner with all the trimmings. He can swing by a restaurant and enjoy his guilty little pleasure without all the hassle and risk of buying my own farm.

When we cave into our lusts whether it be for food, revenge or lust it's never going to be dignified or classy, but it does let us relax and get on with our lives. At least with porn there is no chance of losing my house or being accused of rape.

801735 · 2017-10-08T03:58:10+00:00

Before you spew a bunch of vitriol at me

You underestimate the acceptance within this leadressled humorfull movement. ]=)

sonic1101 · 2017-10-08T06:06:06+00:00

I think your post is stupid. You can enjoy women without getting into relationships or marriage with them. I love porn and enjoy masturbating to women's sexy naked flesh. I liken women to fire, it is best enjoyed from a safe distance. Get too close and you will get burned.

2017-10-08T10:27:41+00:00

Personally I never went to a prostitute, I find it sad. that's one reason. ..the other one well, before I went monk, women are all easy anyway...they all have a price tag, the negotiation process is abit longer..but still very easy.

fantasmas05 · 2017-10-08T10:31:47+00:00

You're not paying her to stay... you're paying her to leave.

chasingsnow · 2017-10-08T14:47:32+00:00

i still like to cum. kill me right?

imdar3ald3al · 2017-10-08T15:08:40+00:00

A hooker saves time and money and is less risky. Better sex too. Imagine all the time and money the average guy spends on women to get laid.

LexGrom · 2017-10-08T17:09:16+00:00

resent our lust for them

Why? Transhumanism can wait. I want to experiment with the best possible sex market first. Legalized prostitution can be part of it: ethical treatment of sex workers and clear distinction between whores and women who're looking for committed relationships which also will give us steady pricing and more sex services. Blurry lines and black market serve no one good

Pope_Lucious · 2017-10-08T18:45:05+00:00

You can't deny sexual urges or the allure of women. Trying to do so would break your own rationalization hamster. There are some issues with using prostitutes (legality). But the exchange is an honest one. You pay for what you want and don't have to invest any more time and energy.

Wraith29 · 2017-10-09T04:30:47+00:00

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Ohboohoolittlegirl · 2017-10-09T09:49:06+00:00

We aren't incel/volcels... we are men who do not believe in the system and relationships. Does this mean we should have to forgo sex? Depends on who you are..let everyone decide for themselves whether they do or do not want to have sex and in which way they get it. That's not of your concern... I don't see a reason to become a monk. I've always attracted women, still do and I just pump and dump. Does that make me less MGTOW? I don't give a shit..

KingFuJulien · 2017-10-08T14:36:16+00:00

Because it's fun for me to masturbate and watch porn, looking at pussies or whatever I'm into. Honestly, I don't care if it's bullshit or not, there's so much bullshit everywhere and life doesn't make sense, so no reason to make an exception here.

Title	why do so many here advocate this
Author	Wraith29
Upvotes	22
Comments	67
Date	October 8, 2017 3:37 AM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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