Why isn't MGTOW a 'movement'?

TheImpossible1 · 2018-10-31T13:34:16+00:00

Movements have leaders and set goals.

This is more just "fuck the system"

DangZagnut · 2018-10-31T13:39:04+00:00

Change the word MGTOW to bachelor and that's why it's not a movement.

There's no shared goals, dogma, or political desire. MGTOW is descriptive. It simply describes the state of someone not doing what society or culture tells them to. There's an "idea" that marriage and relationships aren't beneficial to a man and since society can't stand anyone not pairing up, it's confuses and alarms them when someone doesn't value what they value.

Things that fail the risk assessment and risk/reward test in society are not followed, for many, this analysis is done on marriage and relationships, with a common idea that they simply aren't worth it.

Movements have goals/leaders/and a political component.

There is none for MGTOW outside the self.

footloosemonk · 2018-10-31T13:42:57+00:00

MGTOW is a philosophy. A way of life. While the common theme is to stop getting validations for your existence from women, how an individual chooses to go his own way is derived from his own culture, degree of conservative/liberal values and his understanding of the world.

In simple terms, mgtow as a movement would make us a sub of 76k NPCs.

Itsbbbitch · 2018-10-31T13:43:53+00:00

Because it's something bigger than a movement. It's a philosophy of life that has existed longer than religion.

anonymous_bastard5 · 2018-10-31T14:13:53+00:00

Because you have to read the sidebar.

Atton_Risk · 2018-10-31T13:45:57+00:00

Men cannot function as a collective in the sense that women do. Which is why there is no male version of feminism and why the MRM has died. MGTOW is function because it is directed towards the individual.

Hamasamf · 2018-10-31T14:07:11+00:00

I appreciate the replies, definitely cleared some things up for me.

GlitchyBlasphemer · 2018-10-31T13:48:04+00:00

Because it would totally fuck up our acronym. Who wants to know as a MGOOW? Lol

pintoportugal · 2018-10-31T13:51:55+00:00

For the same reason Atheism isnt a religion

MXRNate77 · 2018-10-31T13:51:53+00:00

It’s a mindset so MGTOW is more of a interpersonal movement so you set your own doctrine and goals for you. When it comes to my fellow brothers I want them to succeed at what they want in life. There is no need for organization when your overall goal is to be happy and healthy which are basic human goals. When the aspect of MGTOW is to focus on yourself we don’t have time to write manifestos, print T-shirt’s, and march. I also like the fact there is no leader or figurehead as they would just become the point of attack from media and feminists. I like the quiet protest aspect of MGTOW as it almost acts as a first line of defense to detractors.

betterredthenwed · 2018-10-31T14:02:19+00:00

I think of MGTOW as a man's individual respone to society, particularly the way many women behave towards men.

If it is ever to become a 'movement' it would no longer be about going your own way.

Freefrombitches123 · 2018-10-31T14:15:15+00:00

I guess because we don't want to change the circumstances we are seeing, we just acknowledge it and all go different and unique ways.

nigelh · 2018-10-31T15:10:58+00:00

We would all pull in different directions. We range from far right, through preppers to the far left. The only thing we agree on is AWALT and, being men, that is enough common ground to get together and talk about it.

badaboomxx · 2018-10-31T15:14:25+00:00

It is just a way of life. Some people don't understand that you don't need an army/movement to live the life you want to live.

SmamelessMe · 2018-10-31T15:28:59+00:00

From side-bar:

We are men going our own way by forging our own identities and paths to self-defined success; cutting through collective ideas of what a man is.

Collective ideas means blue pill, feminist, trad-con, Christian, Islamic, atheist, leftist, alt-right, incel, TRP, MRA, or any other collective ideas. That doesn't mean you can't subscribe to any of these, but as opposed to those ideologies, we're not here to tell you what to do. And we're not here to tell you what not to do either.

Swallowing the red pill is supposed to open your eyes to the lies society wants you to believe in. Nay, it is supposed to open your eyes to the lies you want to believe in. But it does not tell you what to do with the truth.

We're here exchanging experiences from the world men have to live in today. It's up to you what you do with the information you find here. But you best decide well. You are accountable to yourself.

Solstus22 · 2018-10-31T15:48:51+00:00

There is no goal agreed by everyone. The goal for a MGTOW with MGTOW is whatever he wants it to be as long its for themselves and their own benefits.

user_miki · 2018-10-31T15:53:21+00:00

A movement can be killed an idea not.

There is MRM/MRA fight the system for more than 15 years now and what progress they had.Zero.

Need more drastic actions.Reject gynocentrism entirely.MGTOW is way more effective and cannot be reversed.You cannot vomit out the red pill.

Imo the MGTOW is hated by women because it annihilates hypergamy,not because of perceived misogyny.

MGTOW is taking out of mating pool good mating guys which otherwise will serve the women plantation.

It will remain on mating pool to choose ,BB/soy boys, low quality guys,which women hate.

Cricket_FIFA · 2018-10-31T16:09:08+00:00

Because MGTOW is each individual man going his own way, walking away from a corrupt gynocentric society, and customizing their MGTOW lifestyle to their tastes. While you can't save everyone, you sure as hell can save yourself, and places like this subreddit are a congregation of men who have come to the same realization and share their thoughts and experiences to motivate more young men to Go their own way.

2018-10-31T16:22:16+00:00

MRA is a movement, they want to achieve something in society, just like feminism. MGTOW doesn't want to achieve anything because we know we can't win in the system made to privilege women so we just walk away and stop supporting it and focus on our personal goals, hobbies and projects.

CiceroVoltaire · 2018-10-31T16:38:06+00:00

if you're looking for someone to follow, follow me.

/s

own your own life for yourself, by yourself, to your own standards, definitions, goals, rules and plans.

the sidebar is a great start, in the end you define what mgtow is to you.

non serviam.

NietzscheExplosion · 2018-10-31T17:14:09+00:00

Try and get more than 2 Mgtows to show up for a walk or protest.

Title	Why isn't MGTOW a 'movement'?
Author	Hamasamf
Upvotes	0
Comments	22
Date	October 31, 2018 1:31 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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