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A World Without Men

goodbeertimes

February 2, 2018

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Title	A World Without Men
Author	goodbeertimes
Upvotes	38
Comments	27
Date	February 2, 2018 6:03 AM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/7upc6w/a_world_without_men/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/a-world-without-men.1179722 https://theredarchive.com/post/1179722

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[–]duganaok 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

I always found this a funny thought experiment.

If, provided procreation was somehow not an issue, what would happen if one of the sexes disappeared.

If all the Men disappeared, I’d imagine the female ran Society to degrade very quickly. For all utilities and infrastructure maintenance to pretty much stop. And for it to basically become like an episode of Life After People. Possible slowed down, maybe prevented overtime, but ultimately a whole degrade of all of civilization. All the nuclear power plants would fail. So not the most ideal situation.

If all the women disappeared though, it would likely be pretty much business as usual, save a couple of unimportant irrelevant redundancies. Men would probably quickly engineer robot women for their sexual satisfaction. Followed by peace on earth!

[–]InDurdenWeTrust 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You hit the nail on the head, especially in the power generation industry. Same goes for mining, forestry, oil&gas - the commodities that literally form the foundation for our society.

I've travelled to very remote regions of my country, Canada, mainly working in powergen. Staff and management are over 95% male, and I don't think it's due to discrimination. Women don't want to work long, grueling hours in the middle of nowhere. I can respect that, as a choice made by an individual. What I don't respect is calling the current state of affairs blatant discrimination or a product of Patriarchy.

Women aren't applying for these challenging (but high paying) jobs. When they do, they are hired and often given preferential treatment. Yet feminism would have men feel guilty about this; as though it's an elaborate plot to oppress women. I have a polarizing, opposite view. Women are oppressing men, by not actively seeking out these high-risk, high-paying jobs.

The real patriarchy? That's the top 0.2%, almost exclusively men, that oppress everyone -- especially MEN. Until humanity can come together united, we'll forever be squabbling while the richest (men) get richer. Rather than tackling the world's problems without finger pointing, feminists believe throwing all men under a bus -at any cost- is the way to gender equality.

[–]fengpi 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Women don't want to work long, grueling hours in the middle of nowhere.

Of course they do. Women are absolutely overjoyed at the possibility of doing heavy labor in harsh conditions. It's just that The Scheming Patriarchy is what stops them from doing it by tricking them into thinking it's more pleasant to work no-brainer jobs in comfortable surroundings. (The crafty bastards, is there no scheme of hoodwinkery they won't try to pull on the unsuspecting ladies?)

The obvious solution, then, is to make power utility hours "flexible" so that women can restore electricity to hurricane-struck areas when they feel like it. At the times which are best for them to do so, since there is that precious "me time" for them to put first. Yoga, lunch with friends, followed by afternoon pottery class is very important on a weekday.

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[–]goodbeertimes[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

so are healthy relationships and intimate bonds

How is healthy relationships defined change. Since last five decades they have changed rapidly. Today, a healthy relationship is a one night stand where a man's ability to do mind reading and act accordingly. And that definition has been changing rapidly with advance of every decade, since 60's.

And you know what, western civilization reached it's peak prosperity, correlated with happiness back in 60's-70's. All that without the need for 2018's definition of what constitutes a healthy relationship.

No thanks. I don't what this healthy relationship. I am, and most of us are okay with a bit of toxic relationships.

To lose all of either gender would absolutely wreck civilization.

lol! That's laughable. After we have reached the peak of the prosperity, women's liberation has begun. Women are beneficiaries of post war, post industrialization world. Men did everything that preceded it. It's feminism /women that are wreaking the civilization at the moment.

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[–]goodbeertimes[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They see people like you who don’t reflect what the movement is about. You honestly don’t view men and women as equals.

I think I am one of them who don't view men and women are equals. In fact, what equality means is a VERY VERY gray area. I don't like talking about it as if it's a settled issue. The debate need to be re-opened and we as a society need to figure out what it means to be equals at individual level and at societal level.

If this movement is to have any legitimacy

I do support men's rights on a need basis. And I don't care about legitimacy of movement as defined by a 3rd party. I need to understand roles of men and women more clearly without any PC nonsense. I don't care if Feminist's sensibilities are hurt in the process. Once that understanding is there, rights of men and women fall in place very naturally.

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[–]duganaok1 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Then your point is moot. We are looking at what each sex, as a whole, contributed to society. What would happen to society if day one sex should stop working all together. Even in the scenario of women stopping working, they’ll likely still want to produce babies.

Or men stop working they’ll likely still want to get laid.

Reproduction is besides the point. The point is. If women stopped working, society would continue as normal. With the only change being women stopped working. There would be some turmoil, but everything that holds our society together would still be in tact.

If men stopped working, society would crumble. And women would not be able to pick up the slack.

Men can pick up the slack for women. Women can’t pick up the slack for men.

And this is because, when it comes to the entire accomplishments we call civilization, from the cement of the foundation to the trash in your alley, men contribute exponentially compared to women.

And that women being able to get pregnant, doesn’t even come close to that, unless they give birth to a male.

That doesn’t mean that there aren’t women that contribute. There definitely are. But if they were to disappear, there would already be a man able to step in and take their place. We wouldn’t even skip a beat.

The truth of the matter is, women need men a lot more then men need women.

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[–]duganaok1 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Women are most certainly not useless. There just not as paramount as men when it comes to workings of civilization. And that’s a shame because they don’t have to be. It’s not like they don’t have choices and it’s not like that they don’t have options. There is a tiny female presence at least in every industry. But there is not a substantial presence of females in the industries with all the luxuries everyone in our society takes for granted.

And it’s largely because they don’t want to work those jobs. Because they are either too difficult to achieve (neurosurgeon, nuclear scientist) or too labor intensive (public utilities).

So women play a minor and rather insignificant role. And it’s their collective choice to do so. It’s just being lazy. And it’s funny cause those jobs pay sooooo much money.

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