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Being forced into war is causing men to take their own life

mykoiy

May 12, 2022
142 upvotes
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Title Being forced into war is causing men to take their own life
Author

mykoiy

Upvotes 142
Comments 20
Date May 12, 2022 5:30 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/untryk/being_forced_into_war_is_causing_men_to_take/
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Comments

[–]fredfriendshp 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link

You might want to read about the white feather movement. A feminist endorsed movement who shamed man to go to fight in wars and sent many young men to their deaths.

At the start of World War I, Admiral Charles Fitzgerald, who was a strong advocate of conscription wanted to increase the number of those enlisting in the armed forces. Therefore he organized on 30 August 1914 a group of thirty women in his home town of Folkestone to hand out white feathers to any men that were not in uniform. Fitzgerald believed using women to shame the men into enlisting would be the most effective method of encouraging enlistment.[5][6] The group that he founded (with prominent members being Emma Orczy and the prominent author Mary Augusta Ward) was known as the White Feather Brigade or the Order of the White Feather.[7]

Although the draft would conscript both sexes, only males would be on the front lines.[8][9][10][check quotation syntax] While the true effectiveness of the campaign is impossible to judge, it spread throughout several other nations in the empire. In Britain, it started to cause problems for the government when public servants and men in essential occupations came under pressure to enlist. That prompted Home Secretary Reginald McKenna to issue employees in state industries with lapel badges reading "King and Country" to indicate that they were serving the war effort. Likewise, the Silver War Badge, which was given to service personnel who had been honourably discharged by wounds or sickness, was first issued in September 1916 to prevent veterans from being challenged for not wearing uniform.[7] Anecdotes from the time indicate that the campaign was not popular among soldiers, not least because soldiers who were home on leave could find themselves presented with feathers.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_featherhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_feather

[–]DiscardedHippy 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Therefore he organized on 30 August 1914 a group of thirty women in his home town of Folkestone to hand out white feathers to any men that were not in uniform

So, a man brought this idea to fruition?

[–]fredfriendshp 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Yes you are correct .The women did not object and happily obliged in shaming men in public.

[–]DiscardedHippy -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

So...this happened because of a man. I've got no interest in being against either gender but...it sounds like what you've asserted does not actually advocate the position that you prefer.

[–]fredfriendshp 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

No you are wrong, you are twisting the facts here.It were women shaming men for being cowards. They ( the women ) obliged in shaming man for being cowards.

[–]DiscardedHippy -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Your own comment posited that Charles Fitzgerald created the White Feather movement...how am I twisting anything?

[–]fredfriendshp 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

My comment .

👉🏻....A feminist endorsed movement

Followed by the wikipedia introduction which you refer to.

I suggest you read more about the white feather movement . Then come back.

[–]DiscardedHippy 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

'Fitzgerald believed using women to shame the men into enlisting would be the most effective method of encouraging enlistment' - from that same wiki that you introduced. He decided that women would be an effective method of shaming men. Apparently, he was not (and still would not be) wrong.

[–]fredfriendshp 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

e.g.

Fredfriendship tells DiscardedHippy to eat dogs poo. DiscardedHippy loves dogs poo eats dogs poo.

Who ate the dogs poo ?

[–][deleted] 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

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[–]CaptBerlin 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Partly correct. But do you have any evidence to support your points? Or its just the propaganda?

[–]Kindly-Town 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The point about NATO countries are allowed to harbour active US nukes? Yeah.

https://cnduk.org/resources/united-states-nuclear-weapons-europe/

[–]CaptBerlin 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Okay. Us has always been a bully and has created tensions in various regions.

[–]Jeet-tikader69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Facts.. Unfortunately nobody seems to believe it.

[+][deleted] -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Western propaganda. I advise you to watch russian propaganda and most importantly independent medias so you can build up a strong opinion on the subject.

[–]Shadowdragon409 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why would we want to watch *russian* propaganda?

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because most of the time, reading both sides propaganda allows you to connect some dots and get a preview of what the truth is. The truth usually lies between both propaganda, especially when it comes to numbers.👍🏼

[–]MrStone1 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Everything you watch is propaganda.

Why don't you know that?

[–]Blablabblue 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ughh, cry about it. European women are also going into mandatory enlistment if there happens to be a war breakout.

[–]Used-Repair-2501 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Saves an abortion

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