First Wave MRAs

Here's a thought:

I regularly see feminists referring to first, second and third wave feminism, discussing a history which they claim stretches back to the early 19th century, or even further. By contrast they claim that the MRM is a recent development which first cropped up in the late 80s as a response reaction backlash to feminism and that earlier men's movements are unrelated or are actually feminist.

Thing is, most of the first wave "feminists" I've actually looked up never referred to themselves as feminists, which (given the lack of an agreed definition for the term) seems to imply to me that they aren't actually feminists. Unless we're going from the incredibly broad de-facto definition of feminism: "A feminist is someone who calls themselves a feminist" to the even broader "A feminist is someone who someone who calls themselves a feminist calls a feminist," it would probably be more correct to say that feminism is a movement which originated in the 1960s-70s.

There's precious little chance many feminists are going to agree, so I thought I'd go the other way and apply their logic to the MRM for a moment:

First Wave MRAs: First wave MRAs have been seen intermittantly throughout history wherever men realised that their society didn't support their rights as a human being and stood up to ensure those rights were met. They rarely, if ever, described themselves as MRAs but since they were fighting for men's rights we may as well coopt them. Examples include, the sufferage movement, the trade union movement and almost every republican revolution in recent history.

Second Wave MRAs: The second wave evolved in the 1960s out of the counterculture movement in the US around the same time as second wave feminists. This segment of the movement was distinct from previous incarnations in that it attempted to analyse society's relationship with men as a whole rather than focusing solely on specific issues.

Third Wave MRAs: Third wave MRAs came to prominence in the 1980s and began to expand beyond the limits of struggles for human and civil rights to include new models for masculinity.

Personally I'd put the origin of both movements no earlier than the 60s and no later than the 70s, but if we're to apply the same standards the MRM could be said to date back to ancient greece.