men's issues in humanitarian aid

CaptSnap · 2011-11-01T18:17:44+00:00

It sounds like this guy could be the poster-child for white knights everywhere. He goes to two villages and talks to about 50 people each in Africa and from that experience decides he is some kind of authority. He now knows all this bullshit. So he asks the men in the village what they want and his coworker asks the women and they go with what the women wanted, a nursery. Then he isnt surprised at all that the patriarchy didnt build the nursery for the women. He makes the claim that nothing has been done because the men didnt allow it. i think its more likely that the men just didnt give a shit. He could just as easily have said that the women only wanted it if the men built it for them, but since they didnt then the women didnt really want it either. At least not enough to build it themselves.

I made the mistake of reading his feminist papers so I can spare others the same fate. In the article he says this:

childcare would lessen one demand on women that limits their agricultural productivity and incomes. Thus, with a nursery in place women’s incomes would surely rise.

Thats a load of shit because he spends most of the time in his other papers talking about how theres no extra agricultural land available for women who are head of households. The other ones are married and share their income.

You can boil his other papers that he references to this, "men make more money with manual labor either logging or farming than women." And women head-of-households tend to plant the same shit as men because, surprisingly, planting cash crops makes cash. Now what he is saying with all the post-structuralist feminist bullshit I have no idea.

I have very robust data that demonstrates that men move to control any increase in their wives incomes that might threaten the social order of the household, even if that decreases overall household income and access to food.

I think once you removed his confirmation bias all the data would end up suggesting is that men tend to outearn women in fields that rely on physical strength. Then I think, at this rate, after he went back for another decade and interviewed another 50 people to get an idea whats going on over an entire continent (how can you really take this guy seriously), he would find that who-ever in the household earns the most money has the most power. He would call it patriarchy and aim to disassemble it and replace it, I suppose, with what we have here in the west.

The best part is the comments where some guy calls out his bigotry in that all aid workers start with the premise that men are evil and need to go back to hell so almost all aid focuses on women.

chavelah · 2011-11-01T16:58:32+00:00

"So why, oh why, did I ever think that men would allow this nursery to be built? Of course they wouldn’t."

No "of course" about it. A critical mass of men in this village MIGHT have decided that they loved their wives, sisters, mothers and children more than they loved benefitting from sexist social roles, told their scumbag brethren to fuck right off, and showed up to build the nursery. A critical mass of women in this village might have decided to demand, not request, that they be allowed to overturn sexist social roles in order to lift their families out of poverty, and showed up to build the damn nursery themselves.

These people are rural, poorly educated Africans - not Martians. They have the same potential as anybody else to make progress on human rights issues. It would probably help if the humanitarian workers providing expertise and resources didn't react to these kinds of failures with "oops, my bad, I forgot that nothing is more important to Africans than keeping a man's heel on the women's necks!" That characterization is incredibly dehumanizing.

Title	men's issues in humanitarian aid
Author	tsigolohcysp
Upvotes	5
Comments	5
Date	November 1, 2011 4:32 PM UTC (14 years ago)
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