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Mgtow article

JStheHammer

June 17, 2017
7 upvotes
/r/MensRights

https://www.theconservativenut.com/news/2017/6/15/opinion-mgtow

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Title Mgtow article
Author

JStheHammer

Upvotes 7
Comments 6
Date June 17, 2017 6:55 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6hv4na/mgtow_article/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/mgtow-article.920187
https://theredarchive.com/post/920187
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Comments

[–]Meyright 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

However, blaming n entire gender or an institution for one’s poor relationship choices is hardly justified.

To simplistic.

It’s entirely socially acceptable for either sex to remain single and independent

Wrong

In doing more research, the parallels between MGTOW and modern day feminism became more and more apparent. [..] MGTOW demonizes women as greedy, manipulative and useless. Feminism vilifies men as sexist oppressors if not outright sexual predators. Both movements foster suspicion and distrust.

True

Any reasonable person knows that not all women are out to steal men’s earnings and obviously not all men are misogynistic or abusive.

The difference is, women are enabled by law to do that.

Women are attracted to power and they marry at least upwards the social ladder. When they discover the fact that men have no power in the institution of marriage and that they are at the whim of their wife, they loose all attraction. After divorce they are enabled by law to leave with more than they deserve including children. Of course not all women intent to do that, but its that they can, men would be not better.

Don't marry!

[–]Ascendant-Dickwaffle 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some women hate men, some men hate women. Its always been that way and it will always be that way. Its not "toxic", its not "counter productive", its the way its always been. I thought policing people's hatred was just a thing for SJWs. I don't care that feminists in their hearts so to speak hate men, I care that they enact laws based on their hatred of men.

What laws have MGTOW enacted?

People have a bug up their ass about MGTOW because MGTOW calls out conservatives in addition to feminists on thier misandry.

[–]JStheHammer 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Of course I'm angry. I was lied to for 45 years. I made major life decision's based upon what I thought the truth was. If I had know the truth my life would be totally different. Who wouldn't be.

[–]grasshopa 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Now imagine; you're 18-25 years old again. You've heard about MGTOW, but your brief exposure is much as this guy's was; toxic and alienating, so you write off everything about it.

That's the point I've tried to make over and over again. The core of the philosophy is healthy and good. I, personally, want more men to know about it. I want them to know they have a choice.

Much as you, I was indoctrinated early; I was raised by a feminist mother, surrounded by a "marriage is everything" society. I'd heard men saying "never marry", but given the dominant narrative I didn't think it was anything other than a joke. I wish I had had someone to steer me towards MGTOW a decade or two sooner. How much better my life would have been.

[–]JStheHammer 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of Course. I don't hate all women, just the ones that abused me. Used me.

[–]grasshopa 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He's not wrong about the anger and the venom. I've said as much before; it's toxic and repulsive ( literally ). It doesn't do anyone any good, and no; it doesn't even help those going through the "anger" phase. I've argued this point until I'm blue in the face; The core of MGTOW is good; male empowerment. Male self ownership. These are amazing things. However, cesspits like /r/MGTOW only serve to chase men away from these noble ideals.

Of course, where he goes off the rails is when he starts talking about how marriage isn't just a "financial matter" which provides for "economic stability" ( I can't believe he has an editor who missed that ). Marriage is absolutely a financial contract where men are severely disadvantaged.

Treat it differently at your own peril.

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