More Anxious Feminism

kloo2yoo · 2010-10-11T23:20:27+00:00

Feminism was once derided by Rush Limbaugh as, "…established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society." I think Limbaugh is just bitter because there is nothing in the world that will allow him easier access to mainstream society. I know plenty of people who think feminism is just affirmative action for women, and that's simply not the case.

"Stop name-calling! I'm not bitter! YOU're bitter!.. HE's bitter!".

thetrollking · 2010-10-11T23:16:20+00:00

I am not going to dissect this in detail but I will leave a few thoughts.

What is patriarchy and what does it mean? I can count the number of males I had as teachers on one hand and even more most of my friends were PRIVILEGED to see our fathers on the weekend, if they knew who their father was to begin with. When I lived with my mom I saw my dad one week out of the year.

What does 'dominant middle class' men have anything to do with denying women their rights? I thought the middle class was what made America great and gave way to the American dream. It seems to me that the middle class has shrunk or been almost obliterated in my life time due to divorce.

I am pretty sure there have been some recent articles about lesbians being better parents, but I am too lazy to link to them right now.

jakebox · 2010-10-11T23:59:43+00:00

I'm going to preface the following with the disclaimer that there are shitty men out there who oppress women. That said they are certainly not the majority. Also, the statements ahead do not apply to all women, but to too many.

A major setback to women is a self perpetuating shittiness. Because in the past women were actually oppressed, women had to develop underhanded and manipulative ways to be powerful in their own right. Enough generations of women learned to behave in this manner that it became ingrained. Now that equality is the expectation this behavior is the problem. Nobody wants to work with shitty people, so there are still fewer women in higher levels.

The defense for this is always "we had to be manipulative" had is not have this is the reason so many women hate hanging out with other women. If you have "frienemies" you know something in your gender is fucked up. Teach other to be decent people, teach your daughters not to be shitty to each other. Call bitches out when you see them. Don't tolerate pain in the ass women, they hold all women back.

blinderzoff · 2010-10-12T14:30:32+00:00

"You know you're working in a patriarchal society when the word feminist has a weird connotation."

Hmm, which is more plausible:

1) There's some hidden yet all-powerful conspiracy called "patriarchy" somehow poisoning the sense of the term "feminism", or

2) There have been so many loons calling themselves feminists that the term has come to imply a misandrist nincompoop with a persecution complex?

Title	More Anxious Feminism
Author	thetrollking
Upvotes	0
Comments	5
Date	October 11, 2010 11:12 PM UTC (15 years ago)
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