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MrM! #3

Pornography_saves_li

November 5, 2017
6 upvotes
/r/MensRights
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Title MrM! #3
Author

Pornography_saves_li

Upvotes 6
Comments 17
Date November 5, 2017 12:56 AM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/7aulb4/mrm_3/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/mrm-3.911780
https://theredarchive.com/post/911780
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Comments

[–]ee4m 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

The american prison system seems to be the most pressing mens rights issue there is.

Privatized prisons run for profit. They need product to sell as a slave labour to corporations. So they need longer custodial sentences that are easy to get.

You can see the spike in the prison population start in the 1980s. Just when the neoliberal system was being foisted upon us.

The same foundations credited with creating gender studies backed the beginning of the neoliberal movement in the right libertrian dictatorship in chile, and students of womens studies - are taught to believe that there needs to be a harsh legal system for men specifically.

This is all very convenient for the radical right / neoliberal american political system that is intent on stripping jobs, social safety nets and access to capital away from men, because those men will need to be dealt with as they turn to illegal activities to fill the void left by their steady disenfranchisement, they might even rebel.

They have even started a movement to get womens prisons repurposed to house men.

The mass incarceration of disadvantaged american men for profit. That is a worthy cause and a great political vehicle.

And warning mra's in other countries not to be conned into advocating for privatized prisons in their own countries via the right libertarian movement is also important, imo.

[–]Pornography_saves_li[S] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Its funny because you are not wrong, but you seem incapable of viewing a problem through more than one lens, and any consideration opposing viewpoints get amounts to outright dismissal.

[–]ee4m 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

As time has gone on I have viewed it through various lenses.

Doing follow the money's, reading marxist criticism of identity politics, the books dark money and democracy in chaines ... and the cia document that goes into why the deep state started promoting post modernism among other sources lead me to the view I have now.

Right libertarianism and neoliberal feminism/sjwism are two halves of the same movement to me. One fucks men economically the other fucks us socially and legally.

[–]Imnotmrabut 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why are you spamming the board over and over with the same 6 pieces of content?

[–]mensmod 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Just a quick favour - try to post these one at a time.

Historically, we have tried to stop a single user from dominating the New page on /r/MensRights. In the past, I think you posted a whole whack of things all at once - try waiting a day between something like this?

Otherwise, it was an interesting read. Thanks for posting.

[–]Pornography_saves_li[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I never considered thaf anyone here was interested in reading other views. It was a dump, more or less. But, I have been told some people may want to read them, and to accordingly slow it down...made sense, so I did. But frankly, Im shocked the ideologues around here are willing to read articles by 'redpillers' and traditionalusts. Maybe there is hope after all.

[–]mensmod 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

There are some traditionalist arguments that make some sense. But I don't agree with all of it. If an argument is well constructed, I am happy to read and decide for myself. If it is full of vitriol and emotion, I tend to skip over it.

[–]Pornography_saves_li[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Tone over content is, in my opinion, a piss-poor way to decide the validity of an argument. But to each his own.

[–]mensmod 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

In principle, I agree. It has simply been my experience that with vitriolic tone goes poor content. People who are emotional do not write logically and reasonably.

I only have so much time in my day to accomplish things - I need to find ways to filter out things that are of low probability to be interesting.

[–]Pornography_saves_li[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Fair point, however I suggest your criteria for noteworthiness mirror, fairly exactly, those criteria women typically use to decide acceptability. Presentation over content is the choice of politicians, not activists.

[–]mensmod 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

It is the criteria of civilization.

[–]Pornography_saves_li[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Not really. Civility is the purview of politicians. Warriors, for example, have zero time for niceties, yet without them, civilization couldnt exist. I reiterate: the tone of an argument has absolutely nothing to do with the quality thereof. I could very easily make a reasonable sounding, even virtuous case for the most vile, despicable act. Would the reasoned tone of my argument make it valid?

Conversely, I could espouse the most reasonable, fairest of viewpoints, but express them bluntly and unapologetically. Does the tone then invalidate the argument? Of course not.

Ergo, reliance on 'tone' is, well, plain silly.

[–]mensmod 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hey, if you want to be a social justice warrior, that is your prerogative. Power to you.

[–]Pornography_saves_li[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Im thinking you need to brush up on the meaning of that term...considering your view of what constitues a 'goid argument' is identical to the worst SJW example you can think of...

[–]InBaggingArea 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What the fuck is this guy /u/mensmod talking about, and why is he a mod here?

You go back a long way here. Do you not think there is something suspicious about him or her?

[–]Pornography_saves_li[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I frankly think the mod team is identical in every way to the MSM and how they control the narrative in their spheres. I think the mod team is every bit as cliquey and thought bubblish as the worst of closeted 'journalists'.

That said, we deal with the reality we are presented with.

[–]InBaggingArea 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tone policing????

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